We are having a spate of street preachers in Adelaide.
They use microphones and loudspeakers and are very confrontational. They have been arrested as public nuisance but won the case as a freedom of speech defence.
But they are nuts.

They want to save us.

Who?
Anyone who sins
who?
All of us to begin with.

Gay = doomed.
Wearing make up = doomed
Being a person like me = definitely doomed, I know because I asked one preacher  today. (see below)

If you have  tattoos = doomed (God did not give you skin to have graffiti put on it, I liked that, that's a newie to me ) And piercings are in the same classification.

If you are a teenage female and wear 'immodest' clothes = anything any teen would wear, doomed, you are a slut, I heard this idiot shout that at a 14-16 year old girl, in public! WTF. How to destroy a persons confidence in themselves and ruin their life. This is when Cindy decided to argue face to face. I of course enjoyed it, I had the Police in attendance, they do monitor them, but since there was no physical attack, it is legal for them to do so.
Have other people come across these sort of nutters and how were they dealt with?
Give then there due they can take what they dish out, because God loves them and they are saving us.

This BTW is not a rant against anyone's beliefs. But how to deal with what is legal verbal abuse.

Cindy - the doomed, room 28x10^100 Hell

Hi sweetie, I'm doomed too, we have something in common.
Maybe we can doom them by saying everything they say or preach doesn't exist.
It's only there in their confused heads.
Nobody knows who has written their bible, so it could be any lunatic, never mind, they follow.
Let those guys get a life asap and stop boring normal people.

Hi Sis,

I really don't care about them, and I'm really in control of me, thanks to a lot of people, including you my friend. So it doesn't matter to me  personally.  I am now bullet proof.
The one that hit me was insulting a school aged girl, wearing a pair of shorts a pretty Tee and some make up. OK she had over done it, but so what? She is a kid? She was in tears. How in gods name can someone be proud of that?

Sorry feeling a really good rant coming on.

Hugs

Cindy

I don't know Cindy, how somebody can be proud of that.
They are so pathetic.
I think when some one calls a young girl a slut for no reason, she or her parents can sue him.
It's a very offending thing from an adult to a kid, this has nothing to do with freedom of speak.
Maybe I was a bit harsh in my former post but, I really don't like this kind of people.
Kids has the right to be kids and to make their own mistakes, the only ones who can say something about that are the parents and not a lost soul with confused bible ideas.

hugs
Annette

Hi Cindy,

* Have other people come across these sort of nutters and how were they dealt with?
Give then there due they can take what they dish out, because God loves them and they are saving us. *

Gosh, thankfully NOT. Just imagine me (add yourself) we'd have some good stuff to contribute to such nutters.
In our environs they very gently and quietly walk from house to house in groups of about 8 -10 (for spiritual support no doubt) and try to tell you how to go to heaven rather then hell.

I see them very often on my daily 1 hr. health walk :-)

Nothing wrong with that I guess, but the soap-box-operators - they're something else, no doubt.

Axélle

I give racists the runaround in public. I tell them that my father was black, my mother is a Jew, my grandmother was a Wiccan Witch, and my grandfather was Irish Catholic. It shuts them up as people stare at both of us and break out laughing.  Most people get it!

I leave religious nutcases alone. I've had my share dealing with that. HOWEVER...

A while back hubby and I went to breakfast at a local establishment and ran into a woman I know. She's devout Catholic and I would never try to offend her for she is very sweet. She told us that she had been depressed a lot lately and that she had tried numerous pharmecutical remedies suggested by her doctor. She also told us how she had told the same story to some twenty something young man who suggested she might try a little weed. She told us how astonished she had been at the suggestion. "I showed him this," she said as she withdrew her crucifix from her neck, "and I said to him 'this is all I need.'" Hubby, with his unrelenting sense of diabolical humor asked, "So, how's that working out for you?"

I had to bite my lip to not laugh my guts out. Everyone else around us did not hold back. I truly felt sorry for her.

Cindi

Quote from: Cindi Jones on January 19, 2012, 06:34:05 AM
I give racists the runaround in public. I tell them that my father was black, my mother is a Jew, my grandmother was a Wiccan Witch, and my grandfather was Irish Catholic. It shuts them up as people stare at both of us and break out laughing.  Most people get it!

I leave religious nutcases alone. I've had my share dealing with that. HOWEVER...

A while back hubby and I went to breakfast at a local establishment and ran into a woman I know. She's devout Catholic and I would never try to offend her for she is very sweet. She told us that she had been depressed a lot lately and that she had tried numerous pharmecutical remedies suggested by her doctor. She also told us how she had told the same story to some twenty something young man who suggested she might try a little weed. She told us how astonished she had been at the suggestion. "I showed him this," she said as she withdrew her crucifix from her neck, "and I said to him 'this is all I need.'" Hubby, with his unrelenting sense of diabolical humor asked, "So, how's that working out for you?"

I had to bite my lip to not laugh my guts out. Everyone else around us did not hold back. I truly felt sorry for her.

Cindi

As we would say in SA: Ag shame!

The poor tannie, eish. :-)

Axélle

Quote from: Cindy James on January 19, 2012, 02:19:16 AM

If you are a teenage female and wear 'immodest' clothes = anything any teen would wear, doomed, you are a slut, I heard this idiot shout that at a 14-16 year old girl, in public! WTF.
Cindy - the doomed, room 28x10^100 Hell

How does what you wear correlate with sluttishness? I've known the most modest dressers to have sex with scores of men. The greatest fault of that preacher wasn't his prejudice but his idiocy

I have yet to encounter them as each time I visit Rundle Mall they aren't around, but I've seen them on the news.  I always amused by them as I know how delusional they are.  Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - although I guess when getting right with God is as easy as saying "sorry Lord, Jesus is my saviour" then that's nothing. I'm sure these preachers party all weekend and get right with God on Sunday before serving the Devil...err Jesus...by spreading hate.

Kia Ora,

When it comes to Street Preachers - "The intensity of ones religious conviction is inversely proportional to ones grip on reality !"

Metta Zenda

I had some Jehovah Witnesses at my door last year. After an hour long conversation about the bible, which I'm pretty good at, they certainly felt flustered. I suggested that they not come back since I was already lost, being a lesbian.

Just then, hubby came in on his motorcycle and foiled my fib!

Cindi

Latest update.

They are now suing the city council because a member (OTCC)  said they were bigots on a radio program, So they want there FTS protected but if you disagree with a 'message' you are a bigot and against their belief so they can sue you. Interesting. Not the exact words.

I've come across nongesque street preachers of many different religions (including a couple of very twatty Buddhists, and an orthodox Jew where I grew up who strafed me for not being Jewish enough ), if you include the ones who come up to you and talk to you. But I've met some really good ones too, who are willing to have an actual conversation.

  We do not have many of the street preachers in our area, try the Deep South in the "Bible Belt".  We do have the Jehovah's Witnesses and LDS types come to my door.  I shoo off the LDS but I would talk a little with the JW's and read the copies of Awake! and the Watchtower that they give me. 
  There was a problem in the South back in the early 1980's when a bunch of street preachers with megaphones converged in the business section of a certain town on Sundays to preach that going to the stores on Sunday was a sin.  Of course the shop owners complained to city hall and the council tried to ban them.  Eventually the freedom of speech ruling came up and they could do nothing about them being there and having their say but the council could ban the megaphones. 
  Joelene

I have listened to street preachers for a lone time. Some are right on while others are charlatans.  I've shared my faith at street meetings also. No one has the right to insult anybody and I think these folks, however well meaning, crossed the line.

This past Sunday an FTM spoke of the abuse he sufffered at home and at his home church. He came to New York to be himself. I spoke with him afterwards and encouraged him. The church I attend is accepting.

They can be found all over the US.  Some seem to specialize in college campuses, others stand at the end of Powell @ Market where the cable car turns around talking about fornication and Babylon the Great has Fallen!  He's got his chops, but in the end it's just one more bit of street theater, indistinguishable from the others.  I like to ask them if they believe in the Bible.  When they assure me they do, I ask them to comment on Matthew 7:6.  Praise the lord for a Jesuit education.  Yippie.


Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
But you can't quote it for them right off, you must test them, chapter and verse.

For you Cindy

Do any of you get Chick tracts, or is that just a US thing?


http://www.chickcomics.com/

Doesn't ring any bells.

Kia Ora,

Have you ever wondered why there aren't any 'Atheist' street preachers !

We are constantly being told Atheism is like a religion- a belief system, and just like religion there are fundamentalist Atheists - So why no street preaching Atheists ?

OK there was a atheist bus billboard campaign a while back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist_Bus_Campaign 

But I'm talking about 'Street' Preaching-standing on street corners with sandwich board and telling passersby "You are not sinners, because there's no god nor hell -so enjoy life !" That kind of street preaching...

Metta Zenda