As long as you're on the right track.   ...I didn't mean to derail the thread.

Crazy Train...

Quote from: foosnark on January 26, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
As long as you're on the right track.   ...I didn't mean to derail the thread.

Oh my!

That was like a one-two punch to the gut.

Quote from: Jamie D on January 27, 2012, 04:26:52 AM
Oh my!

That was like a one-two punch to the gut.

?

Ativan

Quote from: Kinkly on January 21, 2012, 05:32:00 AM
I am a M2Wtf (Male to What the F#@k) trans person

+1 to M2Wtf!!!

At least that's the way I feel at the moment ...

I identify as Jaime, but I am also a twit.

I don't, but other people use that sometimes in describing me.  Which is OK as long as it's not the only thing that describes me.  But I'm not much into correcting other people anyway (really, who's got the time?) so even if I didn't like it, I wouldn't do much about it.

Quote from: Ativan on January 27, 2012, 09:10:11 AM

Quote from: Jamie D on January 27, 2012, 04:26:52 AM

Quote from: foosnark on January 26, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
As long as you're on the right track.   ...I didn't mean to derail the thread.

Oh my!

That was like a one-two punch to the gut.

?

Ativan

foosnark entrained a couple of railroad puns.

I hardly ever catch those... I let a lot of ->-bleeped-<- just slip by.

Must have a one track mind, miss the signals, delayed reaction - that sort of thing.

Huh?

Train puns (des calembours) - please forgive us.

The futile attempt at drift by using the well known word 'Huh', failed once again.

I still don't use the abbreviated term 'Trans'. It could be the abbreviation of many things to many people.
I prefer to identify as Non-binary at this point, as far as gender goes. I prefer to be more specific and leave less doubt.
It keeps that annoying discussion to a minimum of Q&A.

I consider myself to be transgender because my gender identity does not align with the gender I was assumed and raised to be; my sex and assigned gender are rather at odds with my gender identity. Trans can be the abbreviation of quite a few things, in regards to sex/gender identity or expression, but I fit fairly neatly into most of those, I believe, if not in the more traditional, binary, sense.

I just see the use of the term 'trans', when not used with people who understand what you mean,
could mean literally hundreds of different things. Transportation? etc,etc.
In the politically charged year that we are just starting in, I make it a habit to be more direct with the use of Transgender.
Transgender People also helps to bring the awareness that we are People, not things.
As a group, yes, trans is perfectly suitable when speaking within the group, of course.
yep, minor ranting again, sorry,
Ativan

Quote from: foosnark on January 22, 2012, 07:55:23 AM
Saint, I do know what you mean about how it seems easier not transitioning.  That's how I feel too.  Not having the expense, the hassles, the social challenges and emotional stress of it all.

But in the long run, sometimes doing the difficult thing makes the rest of life easier/better.  For some, not transitioning is more pain and trouble than transitioning.

I've spent a lot of time trying to convince myself that because I am non-binary "transition is not for me." The fact that I haven't moved towards a physical transition has caused a lot of suffering. I'm not saying this is an universal issue because of course it isn't but I've found that I can't deal with not making any physical changes at all.

I'm in a bit of a weird predicament as I don't really identify with the word "androgyne." I'd say I'm definitely some sort of third gender or genderfluid, but androgyne is so far off from what I am. As time goes on I find that I identify more with the word "transgender" because I am wanting the physical changes so badly. But once those changes are accomplished I can't say I'd feel as aligned to that word anymore.

Quote from: chan2011 on February 01, 2012, 08:15:25 PM
I've spent a lot of time trying to convince myself that because I am non-binary "transition is not for me." The fact that I haven't moved towards a physical transition has caused a lot of suffering. I'm not saying this is an universal issue because of course it isn't but I've found that I can't deal with not making any physical changes at all.

I'm in a bit of a weird predicament as I don't really identify with the word "androgyne." I'd say I'm definitely some sort of third gender or genderfluid, but androgyne is so far off from what I am. As time goes on I find that I identify more with the word "transgender" because I am wanting the physical changes so badly. But once those changes are accomplished I can't say I'd feel as aligned to that word anymore.

Don't read to much into the definitions of these labels.
One of the wisest things I was told (several times I have heard this), is to be careful what you read, you just may become it.
I hear that as a warning not to try and define yourself to much. Don't get locked into something that is hard to find your way out of.
I find these days that Non-Binary works just fine.
I tried Androgyn among others and they are just to confining to most of us.
We are Gender Outlaws.
Labels have a very distinct way of getting in our way to living.
It's the way we are. We accept you as you accept us.
We don't need to confine ourselves to mere labels.
You don't owe anyone a definition, you only owe yourself the life you want, not a definition to cling to.
I 'opinionate' to much,
Ativan

Quote from: Pica Pica on January 29, 2012, 02:55:02 PM
Must have a one track mind, miss the signals, delayed reaction - that sort of thing.

Oh no!

Those knocked the wind right out of me.