thanks i'll check out the link

@Bishounen I don't know anymore. I think it's much more than a fetish. I haven't had a chance to try out crossdressing much so Idk.

Cody, dont worry too much about bishounen's theories. They basically claim that all of us that have to transition from a previous supposed gender to ourselves are not women enough or men enough, but at some degree just people lost in a  fetish. The second part of the story is that only the ones that dress or act as male (for ftm)or female (for mtf) since kids are real transgendered people, like her, as if what our parents choose for us and let us be when we were kids could define us forever.
And by the way say it loud too, that you feel excitement!!!  thinking of finally being yourself,and be proud of it, because with all the difficoulties that you will fight, that final peace and joy is a little reward. Bishounen will find in that excitement the sign of a sexual fantasy, and again a fetish, but don't worry, that feeling  is even more than sex, maybe who has not feel so bad in other clothes and trapped in another person's life, can't understand what is to finally reach serenity, and it happens that some little girl is like envious of the result.

@Sweet Blue Girl hmm i think you nailed it right there :3 except today im having a girl day so this is just confusing me again 

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on January 30, 2012, 03:57:20 PM
Cody, dont worry too much about bishounen's theories.

Oh look It's the Gender Police.

QuoteThey basically claim that all of us that have to transition from a previous supposed gender to ourselves are not women enough or men enough, but at some degree just people lost in a  fetish.

You really read in a lot of stuff in other peoples posts, huh?
If you had read through all of my posts instead of just a few of them that you apparently merely eyed through in a rush, you would have found that I do not believe that at all. For, contrary to you, I know for a fact that there are a lot of different types of Gendervariants, and hence also all types of reasons for transitioning, not only one, as you believe, as that is what makes you feel the most comfortable.
Sorry to spoil the fun for you.

QuoteBishounen will find in that excitement the sign of a sexual fantasy, and again a fetish

Incorrect, dear Pupil.
See, here is where you and I differ: I, when listening to someone that is confused about there feelings and Identity and is asking for advice, offer them all the possibilities that I can come to think of matching their statements.
You, however, is locked into one single standard-reply to be Transpolitically correct, saying "Oh it's just normal cuz sall transgenders feel that way", which do not answer the persons questions at all, anymore than someone petting a child on the head when the child wonders why clouds look like the way they do and the grownup says "Oh its because they are clouds!".

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but don't worry, that feeling  is even more than sex

Sounds like you rather try to ensure yourself than Cody.

QuoteHmmm..can't understand what is to finally reach serenity, and it happens that some little girl is like envious of the result.

Firstly. How do you know that I identify as a girl? If you believe that the only types of gendervarianted people are either strictly Boys or girls, then it is not so odd that you are as hostile as you are to the mere mention of any other types.

You sound so bitter. Shouldn't you rather be happy after transition?

My dear bishounen, i criticize your words, you sell the gender variants as an opportunity, but i carely readed in your posts that just few of this variants are real transgenders while others are just crossdressers with a female fetish. You say that this fetish is ok, so that we should not worry about it. Then again I see you triing to put this label on cody, just some steps before, and on me, in this reply now.
I don't need comfort for my sex life.
You can read about me that i am still in the process of coming out, fighting everyday for the need of the only acceptable life i can have, that is with a female form, living my trueself. Sex Is very far from my preoccupations by now.
You see, the variants you introduce are just a way to put labels and marks in a world you try to catalogue without understanding and accepting. You really seem my old me. Yes, i was conducted to hate myself so much to make category and labels everywhere. What i really missed were feelings, for wich no label is good.
And a feeling is the one that leads you to transition. Not a thought, a feeling, not a category in an old derubricated psych book.you are the gender police here. And it's not funny at all what you do every time you see someone in doubt.
If you try to help cody saying him he is just a bi gendered, maybe i see you need more help than him.
There are many variants. Anyone can live his or her gender as she wants and feel it is ok for him or her.
Anyone can also live as a female impersonator every night and a male every day. Anyone can pass trough many phases of his or her life to slowly accept who he or she really is and was from the start if life didn't really suck.
But there's no help in saying, you're this variant, you have this fetish. It is forever, you're done.

I prefeer to help a brother or a sister saying, the goal you feel inside is high, only you jnow it,  try to fight, the way you feel now is not forever. You can, as I can, overcome a past full of sufferings.

You talk of variants, I talk about life.

Ok folks, lets take it down a notch or two.

Taking personal shots at others will not be allowed.

Sarah L.
Global Moderator

Quote from: Sarah Louise on January 31, 2012, 01:04:14 PM
Ok folks, lets take it down a notch or two.

Taking personal shots at others will not be allowed.

Sarah L.
Global Moderator

I agree. The intention of this thread was not to stir up anything between anyone.