Quote from: ssindysmith on April 02, 2007, 07:36:23 AM
Transition includes many things including changing ones sex. My therapist told me I should consider transitioning after I was diagnosed as having GID soon after that I started HRT and began carrying a letter that explains my diagnosis on my letter the key words that got me outa trouble at the Denver airport are "GID includes a chemical and hormonal imbalances" as soon as the coppers saw hormonal imbalance they were cool with it.

Hopefully this thread won't get stuck with one answer only, like I said before why ask?

right, this is the process called [transition] and starts with a diagnosis.  crossdressing isn't transition anywhere, here, in china, or pluto.

So anyone transitioning but lacking a diagnose is not really transitioning?

It seems Dr. Harry Benjamin would not agree.

http://www.symposion.com/ijt/benjamin/chap_06.htm#Psychological%
20guidance%20in%20transsexualism

QuoteDr. Harry Benjimin
The TRANSSEXUAL PHENOMENON
Harry Benjamin, M.D.
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Living completely as a woman (though illegally) can actually be a life-saving measure for those transsexuals who find an operation unattainable. I know at least a dozen who are in this situation right now. They work as women in offices, factories, beauty salons, as nurses, domestics, and some, alas, as prostitutes, all quite unknown to their employers, associates, or clients. They would best have psychological as well as medical help in addition to living in their female gender identity; but very few actually have such help. Merely the opportunity to talk to somebody about their problems has its therapeutic value. To find some understanding from a doctor instead of coldness, rejection, or ridicule goes a long way toward easing their burden.
...

Love always,
Elizabeth

I would disagree that transition includes or requires a diagnosis, ever her the term "nonya" it's short for "non of your business" if I choose to transition I would have done so with ĉ or without ŝ a diagnosis I did begin my transition before my first visit with my T and really the only reason I went was to get a script for HRT, now thats something I would NOT fool around with.

People throughout history have transitioned gender without diagnosis. The diagnosis is only necessary if one currently requires medical services. And the need for these gatekeepers is highly questionable, in my opinion. An adult should be able to have access to these treatments without having to go to a psychiatrist.

zythyra

oh this is a gag lol,  the same people who [disagree] with the dsm and the hbsoc are now citing harry benjamin as a reference.    people cant have their cake and it too?  it's either or.... not both.

Actually it is quite consistent.

Some people were referring to hbsoc/dsm diagnosing as something that all "real" transsexuals would do when transitioning - and quoting Harry Benjamin just shows that he doesn't seem to believe it either.

Quote from: Katia on April 04, 2007, 11:00:49 PM
oh this is a gag lol,  the same people who [disagree] with the dsm and the hbsoc are now citing harry benjamin as a reference.    people cant have their cake and it too?  it's either or.... not both.

I don't beleive you have a clue as to what I beleive and do not beleive. Trying to change the subject to me, with false statements about what I beleive, does not change the fact that Dr Harry Benjiman just refuted all the nonsense you have been spewing, and all the name calling in the world won't change that. Once again, you are speaking your opinion as if it were fact, when really you don't know what you are talking about. Now run along and read the article I linked, before you get caught with your foot in your mouth again.

Love always,
Elizabeth

What's to transition?  the metamorphosis from the birth sex to the target gender.  That's the best I can explain.

Quote from: Yvonne on April 05, 2007, 03:21:42 AM
What's to transition?  the metamorphosis from the birth sex to the target gender.  That's the best I can explain.

Now that is a simple and compelling definition.

Love always,
Elizabeth

A----->B

See the -----> bit, that's transition.

What A and B are definied as or even if they really exist or not is where it gets fuzzy

Warning to those concerned and you know who you are.  There several replies that are in violation of the rules in this thread.  If this persists those concerned run the risk of loosing their posting privileges.  Lets keep this civil as I'm not in favour of locking topics just because of a couple of hot heads.  Read the rules and act accordingly.

Thanks in advance.

Steph

Matter can phase [transition] too. 

-- Brede

Quote from: Katia on March 31, 2007, 12:02:42 PM
there are many pov's of what it means "to transition". i find it amusing that some so-called "ts's" consider [their crossdressing] transition.  if some of "us" keep on thinking this way, soon we will not need anything at all to be [recognized] and [accepted] as women in our society. > what a gag transsexualism would be then...

transition means exactly what it implies.  to stop living your life as your birth sex completely and begin the quest to be physiologically, psychologically, anatomically and legally the gender you identify as.

I agree completely Sis, My greatest irritation is those folks in our own community who feel they never have a right to leave the word Transsexual out of their descriptive of themselves after surgery.

JaneX