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I worry so much about how expensive transitioning is

Started by crashnburnn, February 18, 2012, 01:45:11 AM

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crashnburnn

Sometimes it seems like all of this takes so much money. I feel like my mother won't be very supportive of me if I decide to go through with this, and I won't be able to do anything until I move out hopefully early next year. But how in the world can I afford to live my live and do what I want to do, and pay for all these extra things. Sometimes I think, what if I start to transition, and then I feel like it costs too much? I can't just stop in the middle. And I feel like sometimes there's risks I don't know if I'm willing to take. It makes me just want to stay female and deal with it. :/
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Catherine Sarah

Hi crashnburnn,
Like everything in life, it all comes down to the plan. How do I get from point 'A' to point 'G'. Do I need to go through point 'C.'
If you are in the States, some companies, through their employee insurance plans, can pay for your transition costs.
This is not a race, so take some time out with your therapist or really good friend and map out a plan. It'll probably create more questions than answers, but that's good. Helps you focus on what's important and what's not. Gives you clarity and direction.
Sometimes life throws a curved ball and derails us. Once you have a plan, and get back on it, you automatically know where you're headed.

Need help making a plan? Just ask here. I'm sure there will be plenty of thoughtful responses.

be safe, well and happy
Lotsa huggs
Catherine




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King Malachite

I know how you feel because that is something I worry about every night because living in general is NOT easy financially and adding this one top can se  I'm still trying to put the pieces together of finding out how to fix this problem so I will give you my perspective on it.

I wish I could be happy as a cis-female.  It would save me a lot of problems and money but unfortunately if I continue to stay as female the way I would "deal with it" would involve a shot gun.  That's not to say that you would do that but it would be nice to be a little bit more happy in this world wouldn't it and if you feel transition would do that then you will have to take steps to make that happen.  I don't know where you are located but some countries will pay for transitioning and the surgeries involved and some insurances in the U.S. will cover transitioning.  Cigna is a great example of one.  Along with that you can choose to live frugally only spending money on what's needed and saving the rest for transitioning.  if you can then start saving now even if it's just a little bit.  It will continue to grow.  You can ask some of the guys on here including me how they saved or are saving for their transition and you can Youtube other guys to see how they did it.  I'm even in a yahoo group that talks about funding for transitioning and surgery to get ideas from other guys.

As for the risks, well you just have to think hard and clear, research, and do some soul searching to see if it's worth it to you.

I'm not sure what you mean by stopping in the middle but there is no certain middle that can be defined.  It is different for all guys.  Some guys don't want to take hormones, have top surgery, bottom surgery, hysto etc. and are perfectly fine with how they are. If it costs too much then chances are you can have a stopping point  and pick back up when you get more funding.

I was talking with this guy yesterday who has transitioned and he was telling me that the power you hold is within your intellect. and that true knowledge is the root to power.  Positive affirmation is a strong key.  Begin with an end in mind.  Tell yourself what you want to do and where you want to be in your life and have full faith that you can achieve your goals and put it to work.  Keep saying to yourself that it will happen.  The guy I spoke with didn't have a dime to his name for any surgeries but he applied all of those keys and has three surgeries done already.  Fill yourself with positive aura and chances are that is what will come out.  No matter what you are definately not alone.



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Catherine Sarah

Quote from: Malachite on February 18, 2012, 02:34:04 AM
I was talking with this guy yesterday who has transitioned and he was telling me that the power you hold is within your intellect. and that true knowledge is the root to power.  Positive affirmation is a strong key.  Begin with an end in mind.  Tell yourself what you want to do and where you want to be in your life and have full faith that you can achieve your goals and put it to work.  Keep saying to yourself that it will happen.  The guy I spoke with didn't have a dime to his name for any surgeries but he applied all of those keys and has three surgeries done already.  Fill yourself with positive aura and chances are that is what will come out.  No matter what you are definitely not alone.

And that is just sooooo true for all of us. No matter what you are doing, want or desire. It's positively amazing the people and events that are placed in front of you when you have the right attitude. Attitude determines your altitude.

Keep in touch and let us know how you are coping and moving forward, crash.

Be safe, well and happy
Lotsa Huggs
Catherine




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AndrewL

Crash, transitioning can be very expensive, but sometimes the best affirmations are easily attainable. There is always a way to transition, sometimes you just have to get a little creative. For the record I'm a Graduate Student at a state university, I made less than $10,000 last year and most of my costs of living come from student loans.

When my next major step is out of reach, I find a smaller step that I can attain. I'm living full-time as a man after less than a year, and I've only spent about $1000. That includes travel to doctors for surgical consultation, T, binders and STP's. Most of what I needed was actually the least expensive option. I use $10 underarmor shirts to bind rather than $30 binders but even those were cheaper than bras. When I couldn't get started on T immediately I spent $12 at walmart to get a pair of swim trunks to wear with a black t-shirt. That first swim as me made a world of difference. Second hand/thrift stores are a great place to pick up a new wardrobe without breaking the bank.

And yes, you can stop in the "middle". There is no set point where you magically "finish" transitioning. I told the US state department that I had "completed clinical treatment for sex reassignment". I'm pre-op and on T. I will always be on hormones so there is no "completion" date. I consider all other surgeries to be standard health maintenance care, my transition "finished" the day I could live full-time as a man and had a couple of ID's to prove it. Sure I'll still need a hysterectomy, but genital reconstructive surgery will likely always be cost prohibitive to me. I'm at peace with that, I'm a man with a micropenis, but my penis, my vagina and I get along just fine as we are. I guess you could say that I've stopped in the middle, but to me it's not the middle its the end, and a beginning. The beginning of being able to live as myself for the first time.

If transitioning is what you need to do, there is a way out there, and we're willing to help you find it.

You mentioned being concerned about your mom's reaction, understandable. I thought my mom could handle everything so watching her grieve for the "daughter" she thought she was loosing was extremely hard. But less than a year later she sent me a valentine, the cover read "To My Son". I was so overjoyed that I cried for joy when I read it. The book "Trans Forming Families" edited by Mary Boeneke provides great insight on how families react to someones transition. I've also found it provided a great bridge for my mom & I to talk about what I was going through. It is an emotional read, so be careful to have the time to sort through what it might bring up.

I hope this helps some. Please believe that you can transition, can chose not to transition, live as a man, a woman, or someone in between and all of these are viable options.
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Felix

It's cheaper than having kids, and people bumble into that one all the time. You'll figure out what to do if you have to do it. If the other things you can do with money are more important than transition, by all means don't transition, but be sure you know what you want. Don't waste your life.
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Gretchen

The future is a very dark and scary place that we can not see, so there is no point trying to predict what we can and can't do tomorrow. Things just happen the way they are suppose to, take it one day at a time and before you know it it will be next week. It took me thirty seven years to get where I am at and it takes some people sixty years and then there are the lucky ones who get there in there teens. There's a saying that I really don't like but some times its true: All good things come to those who wait. Or you could start playing the lottery.
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crashnburnn

Quote from: ameline on February 18, 2012, 08:03:26 PM

I hope this helps some. Please believe that you can transition, can chose not to transition, live as a man, a woman, or someone in between and all of these are viable options.

I feel like I'm living in the middle right now. I just wish other people could see me like I see me. I wish I didn't have to deal with all the female references. I wish I could put on a t-shirt, and not immediently notice my chest and remember how wrong it feels. I know there are a lot of steps to take, and maybe I'll take them soon, or maybe I'll wait until I'm in a better place. Maybe I won't take them at all. There is still a lot to be seen.
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spacial

It will cost everything.

Now look in the FtM section and read up on binding. That's where you need to start.

How people talk to you is a matter of time and development. Boost your self esteem first.
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Stef_26

I worry about this also  :'( even though I made it one of my goals to transition (I even put some hobbies aside and budget better)

you have to find the skill you are good at (you can ask family/friends what potential they see in you) sometimes it is hard to see what we're good at

and also work can be hard to get these days with employers not being able to afford it

it should work out in the end though. imagine you are proving something to the world, I dunno what else to suggest

good luck on devising a plan x
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Preston

This is a constant worry for me. When I finally got my letter for testosterone from my psychologist I told her I was hurting for money. So, she thought that a psychiatrist would be just as good as seeing an endocrinologist (they just run blood work, anyway). She directed me to the state college. They have a medical group there that is for students, teachers, and anyone that can get referred. My doctor referred me and it's barely going to cost me anything at all. Do you have any colleges around where you live that might offer something similar? It's worth checking into. The only reason my pschiatrist didn't just give me my prescription was because she didn't feel comfortable with it... :/
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Felix

Also we shouldn't forget that even with no money at all there are great steps you can take. There's no cover charge for peeing in the boy's room. You can try to stand taller and allow yourself to be yourself, which helps me pass better than my clothes ever do. I do pushups every day and that helps my appearance and doesn't cost anything (though I'll admit it works better on T). Once you have a script, testosterone is not expensive. Mine costs about $100 a year. I cut my own hair or get a friend to do it, and experimenting with that can help you figure how best you pass. Changing your name in common use (as opposed to legally) is easy and should be done first anyway, so you know you like it.

I'm sure there are lots of other tactics I'm not thinking of. I absolutely had to do this, couldn't wait any longer and certainly had no money or social/family support when I started. It's okay. I'm a lot happier than I was before I started.
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lilacwoman

Even though my country has a free health service I had to cash in the only small bit of pension I managed to get while working at one factory that offered pensions and I have to spend almost half my weekly income getting hair removal so I think maybe you should look around twon and see what sparetime cash work you can find.
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JoanneB

Quote from: Felix on February 18, 2012, 08:24:45 PM
It's cheaper than having kids, and people bumble into that one all the time. You'll figure out what to do if you have to do it. If the other things you can do with money are more important than transition, by all means don't transition, but be sure you know what you want. Don't waste your life.

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SarahCraziness

well, i seriously need help making a plan because i have no clue where to start =(
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Felix

Thank you Joanne. :)

Sarah I second Gretchen's advice and also you should check out some of the tons and tons of information and stories and stuff on this site, particularly in the mtf forums. The best way to search for particular words or phrases is to go to google and enter the search term along with site:susans.org. The search function here drives me crazy.
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Cadence Jean

Yep, all great suggestions.  To do the basics is inexpensive.  It's when you start talking about taking care of the details that become expensive(like electro, in my case).  I've pretty much resigned myself to every day shaving and wearing foundation for a very long time - or at least until they perfect laser hair removal. :)  I've never thought about it, but, in general, it might be less expensive for FtM's to transition...

Quote from: Felix on February 24, 2012, 11:04:58 AM
Also we shouldn't forget that even with no money at all there are great steps you can take. There's no cover charge for peeing in the boy's room. You can try to stand taller and allow yourself to be yourself, which helps me pass better than my clothes ever do. I do pushups every day and that helps my appearance and doesn't cost anything (though I'll admit it works better on T). Once you have a script, testosterone is not expensive. Mine costs about $100 a year. I cut my own hair or get a friend to do it, and experimenting with that can help you figure how best you pass. Changing your name in common use (as opposed to legally) is easy and should be done first anyway, so you know you like it.

I'm sure there are lots of other tactics I'm not thinking of. I absolutely had to do this, couldn't wait any longer and certainly had no money or social/family support when I started. It's okay. I'm a lot happier than I was before I started.
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Stephe

Quote from: Felix on February 24, 2012, 11:04:58 AM
Also we shouldn't forget that even with no money at all there are great steps you can take.

I lived full time for at least 2 years with zero medical anything. There is nothing that says you have to do x, y and z to live as the other gender.
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