Quote from: Walter on February 08, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
I always thought it was easier for MtF's than FtM's. At least what I've seen, it seems like MtF's are more respected for their transition than FtM's. I see FtM's being pointed out more as lesbians, butch's and such things more than the other way around. Maybe it's just what I've seen and maybe that's not the case

Edit: I'm not trying to start an argument..I'm just posting my thought

i don't know if "respected for their transition" is necessarily the best wording. if you get called lots of the very cruel things mtf are called, i wouldn't say that's respected for their transition, but very hateful. i understand what you mean as far as how people could more see a male who is not masculine, but very feminine as something that goes beyond sexuality, therefore more people are likely to understand the concept of them being transgender, but that doesn't necessarily mean they respect them or try to be compassionate.
people have a better time with someone they take as a female being more masculine undoubtedly, and i could see how that would be more trouble for them in being seen for actually being males, and not butch lesbians, but just the ability to be accepted socially as that while being able to be more yourself. it's a give and take kind of thing there, but i could understand how hard it is to be recognized as someone "fit to be a man" when you are ftm.

Number of changes doesn't mean much, during male puberty you have  more permanent and evident changes. More prominent bone ridges, a more defined jaw, development of facial hair.

FTM will generally develop these with hormones, while MTF won't lose them without surgery.