so I just ordered my first chest binder its a level 4 out of 5 in flattness how well do they work? and do Packers actually feel like the real thing?

Not sure what packers you mean, I have one that feels pretty good to me, but I can vouch for Loveboat's binders. Wearing one right now. Very comfy and gives a very natural looking chest. Good price, too.

They have the standard 'Mr. Limpy' packers, and I can't really speak for those since I don't own one.

I do own a binder off them, and I posted comparison pics before in a different thread. They're pretty comfortable and easy to move around in with pretty great results.

I'm wearing a Lesloveboat binder now, and it binds pretty well for me, but binders aren't the same for everyone.

I love the binder I have from them. It's the only one I wear really. I posted a review in the FTM Gear section https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,111116.msg841535.html#msg841535

I recently ordered a small binder from les love boat, since a small fits me from underworks, and its too small. Really dissapointing after waiting almost 3 weeks for it.  It did seem like good quality, especially with the mesh liner.  It did get me pretty flat from what I could tell, even though the Velcro wouldn't close all the way and it cut into my ribs a little.

I need to do something with this binder, so if anyone is interested in buying it pm me with an offer, or trade ideas.  I like random geek toys.  I have pics if you want too, and ill also get back to you with the exact style.

Eh, I don't like them that much to be honest. I've tried a couple different types and regret spending the money on them. I did not get anywhere near flat, despite getting the "right" size and they were not very comfortable. Underworks has been better for me overall, in flatness and comfort.

I ordered the O-Neck II Velcro Short Binder and I really liked it :3

Quote from: Zerro on March 03, 2012, 07:18:55 PM
Eh, I don't like them that much to be honest. I've tried a couple different types and regret spending the money on them. I did not get anywhere near flat, despite getting the "right" size and they were not very comfortable. Underworks has been better for me overall, in flatness and comfort.

Pretty much this.

Although, I did find it comfortable for as comfortable as something strapped down on your chest can be!
I got a medium, it's the right size and everything but I just feel it binds unevenly and not very good. Also, it doesn't hold things in place very well. I have the 2nd Gen Jersey Mesh binder.

Quote from: ForWantOf on March 19, 2012, 02:00:13 PM
Pretty much this.

Although, I did find it comfortable for as comfortable as something strapped down on your chest can be!
I got a medium, it's the right size and everything but I just feel it binds unevenly and not very good. Also, it doesn't hold things in place very well. I have the 2nd Gen Jersey Mesh binder.
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This was also my experience witih that exact same binder. My tri-top digs into my skin, but it flattens much better and feels more like a male chest.

I've bought a binder from underworks, t-kingdom and loveboat. I've found that not only are loveboat the most comfortable, but they also bind the best.

I believe the loveboat packers are just mr limpy's.

I'm getting my loveboat binder today or tomorrow in the mail. I'll write up a review after I try it out.