okay, instead of another (failed) attempt at self-expression by moi, here's one by a real poet (Federico Garcia Lorca)...
a friend posted this on another forum, and I thought I should share it with you guys/gals,

Love,
unicorn

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Ditty of First Desire

In the green morning
I wanted to be a heart.
A heart.

And in the ripe evening
I wanted to be a nightingale.
A nightingale.

(Soul,
turn orange-colored.
Soul,
turn the color of love.)

In the vivid morning
I wanted to be myself.
A heart.

And at the evening's end
I wanted to be my voice.
A nightingale.

Soul,
turn orange-colored.
Soul,
turn the color of love.


Federico García Lorca

Quoteinstead of another (failed) attempt at self-expression by moi,

What?!   No way, Alex...I liked the one you wrote. Actually, I like yours better than this one.  No fair knocking yourself down.... 

XO
Valerie

um... thanx Val...  ...

*hugs*

Lisette/Alex

Very true Val,

Hey there Lisette/Alex, I hate that word fail when we use it about ourselves, don't ever say that you failed... worst case just say that you left room for improvement    We often put way too much pressure on ourselves and we don't need to as there are far too many out their who are just waiting for us to fail and admit defeat.

Feel good and be proud of your accomplishments.

Take care,

Steph

Aww, Steph, thanks,

Quote from: Stephanie Craxford on October 28, 2005, 05:44:17 AM
Very true Val,
I hate that word fail when we use it about ourselves, don't ever say that you failed... worst case just say that you left room for improvement

QuoteWe often put way too much pressure on ourselves and we don't need to as there are far too many out their who are just waiting for us to fail and admit defeat.

yep, so true, it's a nasty habit, talking to oneself this way... hard to unlearn...

Quote
Feel good and be proud of your accomplishments.

that's my motto for today!

Have a great day, Steph!

much love to all,
Alex/Lisette/unicorn

Quoteyep, so true, it's a nasty habit, talking to oneself this way... hard to unlearn...

Go ahead and unlearn Alex,

I like reading the poetry of our very own authors here at Susan's. I wish I were that creative.

Shelley

Quote from: Shelley on October 28, 2005, 04:30:14 PMI wish I were that creative.

Shelley,
don't say that. So what if you don't write, you express yourself in other ways.
On this forum it seems to me everybody is finding out how to be their true selves, being comfortable with expressing that, each in their own unique way. It takes a visionary creativity to be able to move past the binary and conceive of a different way of being in this world. Life as a work of art, the best kind, the kind that is honest and ruthless and passionate (in both senses of the word, the love and the pain). You prove your creativity just by being here!

Alex

PS of course i write messages like these just as much to convince myself as everyone else...

I can write Alex,

Just finished my Masters Thesis, I just can't write with the beauty that poets can. I see poetry like painters. They can create emotion in those who share their artistry.

It is no  such much envy on my part as it is appreciation of what you do.

Shelley

I see writing as thinkking...when someone's a good writer, it's that their thought processes and the way they put words together is unique.  Shelley's right, poetry is of a different sort. You can be a good writer but have a gift for a specific writing style or form.

I used to write poetry a lot in past years, and have recently been lamenting the fact that my muse seems to have left me...I wrote my last poem in 1997....(sigh).... Still, I've been quite adequate at expressing sentiment in letters, church newsletter articles, and papers for school.  But I really want for my muse to return....she ran off in a hurry and I've no idea where to....   

Shelley, what are you getting your Master's in?  What's it like to write a Master's Thesis? You know, like the requirements and the process and so forth? 

XO,
Valerie

Quote from: Shelley on October 29, 2005, 03:49:36 PM
I can write Alex,

Just finished my Masters Thesis, I just can't write with the beauty that poets can. I see poetry like painters. They can create emotion in those who share their artistry.

It is no  such much envy on my part as it is appreciation of what you do.

Shelley

of course, dear Shelley I knew that...

and congrates on the thesis... what do you work on? I'm stressing on a phd proposal now... deadline is tuesday 1 nov... (medieval theology and genderstudies)...


Val: you're so right... actually writing is how i think... couldn;t do without.... and the muse... yeah she's unpredictable, she's run away from me a couple of times... i've done a lot of research writing in recent years, but now i really need the poetry. I'm also doing of  lot of writing for church newsletters and such lately, but that's too much about what the community want to hear and often not enough about what i want to say, though i'm trying to change that...

again, Shelley, tell us more about your research! Val, I wrote my MA thesis in a hurry and am disappointed in the result in spite of the good grade. I'm reworking  it now for publication though, and that version is good. (subject: St Ita, 6th C Irish saint, a saint's life in Latin, I edited the text from MS) lol The process of my thesis is a textbook case of what NOT to do, lol, so I won't elaborate. I'll let Shelley explain.

Love, chat later,
Alex