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Anyone trans dating someone else trans?

Started by callmejoe, March 01, 2012, 07:46:22 PM

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callmejoe

I am. FTM dating an FTM. I kinda wondered about this scenario a while back, like how two transfolk would operate together, but didn't think I'd meet enough transfolk to run into this.

I'm pre-op, on T, been openly trans for a couple of years now. I've reached a rather peaceful state of mind with an infallible sense that everything will turn out alright. Transition was hell for me between disapproving family, psychological problems and social restrictions (having to wait till I'm eighteen for T, name-change and gender-change crap, the whole shebang). Things got much better as transition moved along.
     My boyfriend declared he's trans a couple months after we started dating, so he's just at the start of a rather hellish, emotionally bipolar process known commonly as transition. Being in the stage where he has no idea who he wants to be he's kinda spazzing, which means I spend a lot of time happily consoling the poor fella  :icon_wink:

Just curious, is anyone else FTM-dating-FTM or MTF-dating-MTF or even FTM dating MTF, vice versa? If so, has it become overwhelming or comforting because of your familiarity with the process? What's it like for you all to see it all from the outside looking in on a very intimate level? If nothing else, I've found that I'm really proud to be there and let him know he's not a freak and not alone myself.
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Nemo

I was gonna start a new thread here about this, but here's a much better place to do it - advance warning, this is likely to be tealdeer, so I hope you like to read.. :P

I'm a genderqueer FTM (mentally fluid/neutral, physically transitioning to male). I got found on OKCupid by this guy I'll refer to as K; he marked his profile as male and mentioned that he's transgendered, so the automatic response was to think he was also FTM. Two months of messaging and a month of texting later, we met up for a semi-awkward first date, partly 'cause it had been a while for both of us and partly 'cause it turns out he's actually going the other way - "physically male but doesn't want to be" was how he put it. Oops. Mind you, once the air was cleared and no I don't mind which way you're going, he showed over text the following day that he was really keen for a relationship ;D We've met twice more since, still texting each other a lot; in real terms it's been about 2 months since we started dating. However, in getting to know a little more about where we both stand in terms of transition (or not, in his case), gender identity etc, things are starting to bother me. Not in a bad way, far from it, but still...

I say "he" at this point only because he's still full time living/presenting as male, but it turns out we're about the same - mentally GQ, physically needing to transition. K however feels stuck; after looking into transition while at Uni several years ago, he's now back living with his parents and in a job he's not too happy in, but has a car to run. In a lot of ways he's where I used to be: quiet, withdrawn, barely going out, not good around people, that kind of thing. I could tell before this last meeting that he wasn't happy, but we had quite a chat about this last time (Saturday just gone).

The date itself was amazing. The idea was to take him round this abbey nearby since it's in a quiet area, but what actually happened was a whole day spent cuddling - among other things ;) - in my room. When he complained about his bits I asked if he was alright using them before we got up to anything, although I did notice he was gazing at/stroking my chest a lot, sometimes with his eyes closed, and it was sad to watch knowing why :-\ During one of our chats I finally told him that I was concerned, because I know it doesn't go away, and I'm currently feeling a little helpless - at this early stage I don't want to start pushing him, especially if he's not ready yet, but being so far down the line and seeing him suffer the same way I used to is hard :(

On a more positive note, I'm pretty sure my trans status was partly what drew him to me in the first place, and it's certainly formed a good part of the bond we have :) Feels so nice for us to be able to complain about things like society and its attitudes, being included in conversations etc, and to respond to each other with "Know exactly what you mean".


New blog in progress - when I conquer my writer's block :P
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madwoman_in_the_attic

Quote from: Nemo on March 05, 2012, 02:42:05 PM
In a lot of ways he's where I used to be: quiet, withdrawn, barely going out, not good around people, that kind of thing.

First, I'm topic drifting, but I just have to say that my partner (MtF) was ALSO withdrawn before transition. Four years post transition she has become a people person and a strong out trans manager and generally awesome to be around.

Nemo, I hope you can support K through the "dithering" phase! Because once you're THROUGH that it's possible to look back and see ... yes I was dithering ...

callmejoe, I am only GQ (previously cis female) so my partner and I don't "match" the way you two do. However, I will say that the last time I lay on top of her I asked whether the fake penis (that I was wearing) was hurting her and she said, "No but the real one is hurting me!" SRS in July, counting the days...
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justmeinoz

I am currently in a 'Friends with Benefits' type relationship with an Intersex Transwoman I knew for some time before we decided to take things a little further.  We both have a few commitment issues after previous relationships, so are taking things casually at this stage. 

I have found that being with someone with the same anomalous bits has been very empowering and "normalising".  As far as sex goes, it is a case of using what we have got and enjoying the whole experience rather than considering who has what, and what they are doing with it, and getting hung-up about it.
We both see each other as women, she is Bi and I am a Lesbian, and we like being together, for all sorts of reasons. I think she is the best thing to happen to me in a long time.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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madwoman_in_the_attic

Karen, this is an inspiring story! Also love your photo.

Here's a poem that relates to this topic, How To Make Love To A Trans Person...
http://genderqueerchicago.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-to-make-love-to-trans-person.html

"Get rid of the old words altogether.
Make up new words."
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justmeinoz

Thanks. I am trying to get a new photo to upload, but having trouble.  I now have a short bob hairstyle which is much more flattering. :)
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Joeyboo~ :3

I'm a MTF dating a FTM.
I've been talking to him for almost half a year already. It's also long distance, which sucks but were hoping to see each other in May.
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JenJen2011

Quote from: JoeyD on March 08, 2012, 04:42:28 AM
I'm a MTF dating a FTM.
I've been talking to him for almost half a year already. It's also long distance, which sucks but were hoping to see each other in May.

Awwww... so cute! Happy 4 ya! :)
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Nemo

Quote from: madwoman in the attic on March 08, 2012, 03:00:56 AM
First, I'm topic drifting, but I just have to say that my partner (MtF) was ALSO withdrawn before transition. Four years post transition she has become a people person and a strong out trans manager and generally awesome to be around.

Nemo, I hope you can support K through the "dithering" phase! Because once you're THROUGH that it's possible to look back and see ... yes I was dithering ...

Thanks, I hope I can exercise the self-control needed to not push anything.. because as you say above, I know only too well about the "dithering" stage :-\ About the first bit; that's pretty much what's happened with me, still got a way to go but I'm a lot more outgoing than I used to be :)

Quote from: justmeinoz on March 08, 2012, 03:59:18 AM
As far as sex goes, it is a case of using what we have got and enjoying the whole experience

That's exactly what K said when I asked about it - and probably because we're in the same boat, it was definitely a lot more enjoyable :)


New blog in progress - when I conquer my writer's block :P
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JessicaH

I met Melissa42013 on this site on January 30th of last year. We are both MtF and we almost instantly formed a very close friendship and withing 6 weeks I was on a plane for a visit taht was incredible. I have never experience this sort of bonding and it almost feels like two souls that have spent eons together but got lost and reunited.

I have never been so much in tune with anyone and we will always be closeer than close and we both look forward to the day we can live together. Luckily, we have been able to spend a total of about 12-14 weeks together over the last year and now tht she works for the same company, we will be doing a lot of international traveling together . Unfortunately, right before I get back from africa, she will be going to Shanghai for 30 days so It will be over 2.5 months without seeing her and that is really hard! Our relationship is very close and intimate but not sexual. Hard to explain but I'd give u any and all for just what we have!  :-)
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EmilyElizabeth

I'm dating a bigender boy, so that's umbrella trans at least


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