QuoteBecause most insurance plans explicitly deny coverage of trans procedures.

I see.

Dominicki, have talked with your dr about increase your T so your periods stop completely; that work for most FTM.

Quote from: mm on March 08, 2012, 12:00:34 PM
Dominicki, have talked with your dr about increase your T so your periods stop completely; that work for most FTM.

That's not what the issue is as far as I've read.  He doesn't get periods, she wants to forcibly give him a period every three months.

Quote from: Andy8715 on March 08, 2012, 12:46:13 PM
That's not what the issue is as far as I've read.  He doesn't get periods, she wants to forcibly give him a period every three months.

@mm: What Andy said is correct. But the way I'm feeling now, I don't think I'll be taking T too much longer if I don't masculines in another year.

Quote from: Andy8715 on March 08, 2012, 12:46:13 PM
That's not what the issue is as far as I've read.  He doesn't get periods, she wants to forcibly give him a period every three months.

Ew.

I have no other words for how awful that sounds.

I would outwardly protest if someone ever asked to do something like that to me.

Quote from: JasonRX on March 08, 2012, 01:42:19 PM
Ew.

I have no other words for how awful that sounds.

I would outwardly protest if someone ever asked to do something like that to me.

Yeah, it sucks. But I'm afraid if I don't take it, something much worse could happen.

Dominick, I believe the theory is that going on T and not having hysto will eventually raise the RISK of cancer. You seem to be approaching cancer as if it were inevitable. Do some research--frankly, there's not much out there--and try to get a little perspective. If you're seeing a therapist, I hope you're working on your fears. If you're not seeing a therapist, think about talking to someone.

Also, I've never heard of a guy who was able to get hysto without at least one exam. Try not to see hysto and the exam as something that will happen now, when you're early in transition and easily spooked by the possibility of being looked at down there. Think of hysto as a goal, something you'll want to do eventually, something that you WILL be ready to do after a couple of years of self-improvement and confronting your fears and defeating them.

When I reached the point where top surgery became an absolute necessity, I needed a consultation with the surgeon. I wondered how I could ever let someone see my chest. I wasn't even taking my top off for my partner because I was so mortified by my chesticles. But I knew that I needed the surgery, so I looked at the consultation as a way to achieve that goal. I had already done a lot of work with my therapist, and he helped me to get through the consultation and everything else. Now I have a male-appearing chest, and I love it.

In the end, though, showing my chest to the surgeon was like giving myself a shot in the early days. Sometimes it hurt a little, and a couple of times it has hurt more. And I wasn't very skilled with the syringe at first. But I needed my T, so I kept on injecting. I kept my eyes on the goal--having T in my body--and was able to put up with a certain amount of temporary unpleasantness to achieve that goal. But I didn't self-inject (or get top surgery) until I was ready. And I took steps to make sure that I would be ready.

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Because most insurance plans explicitly deny coverage of trans procedures.

This is exactly why I won't do anything, unless I actually do get cancer - then my insurance will HAVE to cover a hysto. 

Quote from: Dominick_81 on March 08, 2012, 02:30:06 PM
Yeah, it sucks. But I'm afraid if I don't take it, something much worse could happen.

Taking it would never be an option for me.
I feel like to some degree that would besmirch my entire identity and couldn't put up with it.


I know not all guys with feel this way, but still.
In my experience though, starting testosterone meant stopping those annoying "visits", because I actually have not had my period once while on HRT.

Quote from: ChesireBat on March 08, 2012, 03:00:17 PM
This is exactly why I won't do anything, unless I actually do get cancer - then my insurance will HAVE to cover a hysto.

I hesitate to say this, but if a guy has a major health issue and the insurance company knows he is trans, it can find ways not to cover his hysto. He might win through some sort of appeals process, but maybe not.

Quote from: Dominick_81 on March 08, 2012, 02:30:06 PM
Yeah, it sucks. But I'm afraid if I don't take it, something much worse could happen.

Unless she has a specific reason, such as a endometrial ultrasound that has shown that the uterine lining was not thinning,  I would refuse.  There's no reason to take progesterone.

Quote from: Arch on March 08, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
I hesitate to say this, but if a guy has a major health issue and the insurance company knows he is trans, it can find ways not to cover his hysto. He might win through some sort of appeals process, but maybe not.

Sad, but true.  The insurance company would find a way to not pay out.

Quote from: Arch on March 08, 2012, 02:42:10 PM
Dominick, I believe the theory is that going on T and not having hysto will eventually raise the RISK of cancer. You seem to be approaching cancer as if it were inevitable. Do some research--frankly, there's not much out there--and try to get a little perspective. If you're seeing a therapist, I hope you're working on your fears. If you're not seeing a therapist, think about talking to someone.

Also, I've never heard of a guy who was able to get hysto without at least one exam. Try not to see hysto and the exam as something that will happen now, when you're early in transition and easily spooked by the possibility of being looked at down there. Think of hysto as a goal, something you'll want to do eventually, something that you WILL be ready to do after a couple of years of self-improvement and confronting your fears and defeating them.

When I reached the point where top surgery became an absolute necessity, I needed a consultation with the surgeon. I wondered how I could ever let someone see my chest. I wasn't even taking my top off for my partner because I was so mortified by my chesticles. But I knew that I needed the surgery, so I looked at the consultation as a way to achieve that goal. I had already done a lot of work with my therapist, and he helped me to get through the consultation and everything else. Now I have a male-appearing chest, and I love it.

In the end, though, showing my chest to the surgeon was like giving myself a shot in the early days. Sometimes it hurt a little, and a couple of times it has hurt more. And I wasn't very skilled with the syringe at first. But I needed my T, so I kept on injecting. I kept my eyes on the goal--having T in my body--and was able to put up with a certain amount of temporary unpleasantness to achieve that goal. But I didn't self-inject (or get top surgery) until I was ready. And I took steps to make sure that I would be ready.

I do see a counselor.

I hope there is a way to prevent cancer if I don't ever get a hysto.  I don't want anyone looking at me down there or touching me down there. I think I'm more terrified to go to gyno then to have surgery done. I'm not comfortable with my body and I don't want anyone looking at it. I hate it when my endo doctor has to look and feel my stomach. I absolutely hate it! Why does she have to look at my stomach? Can't she just feel it under my clothes like my other doctor does?

I'm glad your counselor was able to help you. I know I'll never be ready to go to a gyno. I never want to go to one. I don't care if I die just as and long as I don't go to hell.

@Andy8715: She didn't give me a reason expect if I don't bleed and the lining isn't cleaned out it could cause problems. It's more like a precaution.  Since I won't ever go to a gyno, it might be a good idea I take it.

That is very intersting .....my hormone doctor is a gyno and she stopped my periods -- she said there was no reason to have it if it caused me so much dysphoria.  I asked her about your situation and she said that was outdated materials and no longer used in the practice of treating trans men.  She also said they have done further research on ovarian & cervical cancer and discovered it wasn't transmen were at higher risk -- it was transmen for some reason had higher rates of Poly Sistic (not sure of the name) and that was why there was higher rates of cancer.  I have that condition so she said I should get a hysto.

On a side note -- they don't have to look down there for the surgery -- the do a small incision on your stomach and pull it all out that way.

Quote from: Robert Scott on March 08, 2012, 05:47:32 PM
That is very intersting .....my hormone doctor is a gyno and she stopped my periods -- she said there was no reason to have it if it caused me so much dysphoria.  I asked her about your situation and she said that was outdated materials and no longer used in the practice of treating trans men.  She also said they have done further research on ovarian & cervical cancer and discovered it wasn't transmen were at higher risk -- it was transmen for some reason had higher rates of Poly Sistic (not sure of the name) and that was why there was higher rates of cancer.  I have that condition so she said I should get a hysto.

On a side note -- they don't have to look down there for the surgery -- the do a small incision on your stomach and pull it all out that way.

Thanks for letting me know. I'll tell the doctor I got some info and that I don't want to take it again.  I've already taken 3 pills already. I'm not sure if I should stop taking it now...? I'm thinking I should just finish it out and never take it again. I'm not sure what to do...?

I'm sorry you have that condition. That sucks.

That's a good thing they don't look at you down there. But don't they have to put one of those things in, I'm not sure what you called it. It's something to do with your bladder...?

I've been on T for 3 years, and have been to about 5 different doctors during that time for T scrips--- not a one has ever said anything about inducing periods. I've never been to a gyno, either, and am not eager to see one, but there are no problems down there--- things actually work far better than they did before T.

On the TMI side, though, I've been off T for the past 4 1/2 months. Almost 2 months ago, the red death came back. The first time was a ton of cramping, plenty of feeling like an alien in my own head, and spotting that lasted, cumulatively, about 3 hours. That's all that was built up after 2 1/4 straight years of T. The next month, I had a normal period. I'll be damned, though, if I'll ever let a doctor "induce" one once I get back on T. Considering how little was built up after such a long time, I imagine that if I start back up on T right at the conclusion to the monthly curse, I shouldn't have to worry about build-up. I won't ever have a hysterectomy, either; I intend to start regular gyno check-ups as soon as finances permit.

Dominick, is it possible your dr. just isn't very good? I know you said in another thread that she didn't do proper level checks for you, which may have caused problems--- is it maybe time for a second opinion?

@Luc: The thought of cramping depresses me. I had bad cramps when I got my period. Since it's been a year since I got my last period I hope the cramps are not worse. I can't take that.

QuoteDominick, is it possible your dr. just isn't very good? I know you said in another thread that she didn't do proper level checks for you, which may have caused problems--- is it maybe time for a second opinion?

I don't think she has much experience with trans people. I think I might be the first ftm patient she had. The other trans patient she had was a mtf.

I don't want to change doctors b/c I feel it would be insulting, ya know what I mean? The thing I don't like is whenever I have an appointment with her she has to look at my stomach... I hate that. I don't want anyone looking at my stomach. I don't think it's necessary for her to look at my stomach.

I'm just gonna finish my 12 days I have on this pill and never take it again since it's not necessary. It only puts me in a depressive mood.

Also, since I'm taking this progesterone and T at the same time, won't it mess up my T levels? I'm getting my T levels checked  tomorrow to see if the T is lasting in my body for the whole 2 weeks, but will the progesterone mess the T level reading up?