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Philadelphia Gay News is pinkwashing Israel’s atrocities

Started by Shana A, March 18, 2012, 09:33:19 AM

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Shana A

Philadelphia Gay News is pinkwashing Israel's atrocities

by Pauline Park

http://www.paulinepark.com/index.php/2012/03/philadelphia-gay-news-is-pinkwashing-israels-atrocities/

Israel's campaign of 'pinkwashing' — a campaign to use Israel's supposedly good record on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) rights to try to justify the brutal and illegal  Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories — has now enlisted the support of Mark Segal, the publisher of Philadelphia Gay News. PGN published an editorial ("Israel, the gays and Equality Forum," 3.15.12) written by Segal in the newspaper this week that justifies Israel's continued massive human rights abuses against the Palestinian people — LGBT and non-LGBT — based on the unsubstantiated claim that Palestinian society is monolithically homophobic and the entirely false claim that Israel is a haven for gay refugees from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Troy Masters is publisher of Gay City News and was one of 16 members of  the first US LGBTQ delegation to Palestine, which I also joined, in January. Masters challenged Mark Segal on his editorial, to which Segal responded by e-mail on March 16, writing,

"In the 1970 & 80′s LGBT delegations visited Cuba and began to support the Cuban Government.  What they did not know at the time was that gay people were being beaten, harassed and jailed on a regular basis, and in the 80′s AIDS concentration camps... For such a 'high level' group, the group seems very misinformed," said Segal about the first LGBT/queer delegation from the United States to Palestine, which Masters and I were a  part of in January.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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dalebert

It's unfortunate that one cannot seem to express any disagreement with Israel's politics without being labeled antisemitic. It's stilly. Many Jews have issues with Israel's politics. This is just a dishonest debate tactic. People use all sorts of dishonest debate tactics when they have strong disagreements with others and I suppose this one isn't special.

Padma

The belief that "we are oppressed and therefore no-one has the right to criticise us" is never true, but is widely used by individuals and groups the world over. I've seen this among so many groups I've observed or been directly involved in that I see it these days as a general human tendency to avoid taking responsibility. Israel has been playing that card ever since it was created.
Womandrogyne™
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Jamie D

... to try to justify the brutal and illegal  Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian."

They are a creation of the Arab League.
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Padma

Quote from: Jamie D on March 18, 2012, 10:15:33 PM
... to try to justify the brutal and illegal  Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian."

They are a creation of the Arab League.

From Wikipedia (where I'm sure this would be contested if untrue):

"The Palestinian people, (Arabic: الشعب الفلسطيني‎, ash-sha'b al-Filasṭīnī) also referred to as Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون‎, al-Filasṭīniyyūn), are a people descending from the peoples who have lived in Palestine over the centuries.[15][16] Today, Palestinians are largely culturally and linguistically Arab. Despite various wars and exoduses, roughly one half of the world's Palestinian population continues to reside in the area encompassing the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and Israel. In this combined area, as of 2004, Palestinians constituted 49% of all inhabitants,[17] encompassing the entire population of the Gaza Strip (1.6 million), the majority of the population of the West Bank (approximately 2.3 million versus close to 500,000 Jewish Israeli citizens which includes about 200,000 in East Jerusalem), and 16.5% of the population of Israel proper as Arab citizens of Israel.[4]" etc.

They were definitely present in the 60's when my family were living there.
Womandrogyne™
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Felix

I never heard that Israel had a positive record on GLBT rights. The impression I got was that they are simply pragmatists, and that their military culture is a big part of it.
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Jamie D

Quote from: Padma on March 19, 2012, 02:36:39 AM
From Wikipedia (where I'm sure this would be contested if untrue):

"The Palestinian people, (Arabic: الشعب الفلسطيني‎, ash-sha'b al-Filasṭīnī) also referred to as Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون‎, al-Filasṭīniyyūn), are a people descending from the peoples who have lived in Palestine over the centuries.[15][16] Today, Palestinians are largely culturally and linguistically Arab. Despite various wars and exoduses, roughly one half of the world's Palestinian population continues to reside in the area encompassing the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and Israel. In this combined area, as of 2004, Palestinians constituted 49% of all inhabitants,[17] encompassing the entire population of the Gaza Strip (1.6 million), the majority of the population of the West Bank (approximately 2.3 million versus close to 500,000 Jewish Israeli citizens which includes about 200,000 in East Jerusalem), and 16.5% of the population of Israel proper as Arab citizens of Israel.[4]" etc.

They were definitely present in the 60's when my family were living there.

Since you lived there, you probably already know the complicated history of the region.  At the conclusion of World War I, the Ottoman Empire, which controlled present day Israel and it neighbor, Jordan, was broken up into several pieces.  One of those pieces became the British Mandate of Palestine.

The Balfour Declaration established that the Mandate would be set aside for the repatriation of the Jews.  Just as British India was partitioned among the Hindus and the Muslims after World War II, so too was the Mandate destined for partition among the Muslims and the Jews.

The first state created out of the Mandate was the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.  It comprised the greater portion of the Mandate.  The British got cold feet when it came to Israel, and the Jews declared their independence.  They were immediately attacked by forces from the Arab League, but established their independence by force of arms.

Soon thereafter, Jews were expelled from Muslim countries all over Africa, the Middle East, and Asia.  Hundreds of thousands migrated to Israel.  At the same time, the Israelis did not expel the Arabs from Israel, nor would the neighboring Arab states accept the refugees.

Thus, a class of persons was created by their Arab cousins.  Furthermore, the Kingdom of Jordan annexed what is today called the "West Bank."  Jordan lost that area in the 1967 war. The refugees that resettled in Jordan tried to overthrow the Kingdom, and were sent packing.  Similarly, the Egyptians established military rule in the Gaza Strip, but did not assimilate the Gazans.

The so-called Palestinians reject a "two state" solution.  Indeed the "Palestinian" organization, HAMAS, has pledged to eliminate Israel and initiate a second Holocaust.  The "Palestinians" need to leave Israel and go to Jordan, Egypt,  and other nearby Muslim countries.
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Padma

Most of the Palestinians don't have warfare in mind, they're just people who have been born and grown up in Palestine, whose ancestors were also born and lived in Palestine. It is unsurprising that they wish to carry on doing that, regardless of what people wish to call the land on which they have been doing that. It's a mess.
Womandrogyne™
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Jamie D

Quote from: Padma on March 19, 2012, 04:04:58 AM
Most of the Palestinians don't have warfare in mind, they're just people who have been born and grown up in Palestine, whose ancestors were also born and lived in Palestine. It is unsurprising that they wish to carry on doing that, regardless of what people wish to call the land on which they have been doing that. It's a mess.

Yes, I agree.
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Jamie D

Quote from: spacial on March 19, 2012, 02:41:53 PM
This is nonsense.

Nope, it's history.

Feel free to point out something that is incorrect.
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Shana A

"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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