Quote from: Stephanie_b on March 18, 2012, 05:57:28 PM
I have barely been working on my voice, so that should be obvious after hearing it.  I have a cold and sore throat too, so that didn't help any.

Suggestions and comments are welcome, please be honest but kind as I already think it sounds pretty bad. 

that voice...

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Quote from: Samantharz on March 19, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
Apple pie, you have an incredible voice

Thanks! I like yours better though... I think yours somehow sounds more 'normal' than mine!

Is that a good or bad thing?

Quote from: apple pie on March 21, 2012, 04:45:26 AM
Thanks! I like yours better though... I think yours somehow sounds more 'normal' than mine!

Well..... Thank you! That's actually a wonderful compliment!!! *blush*

Quote from: Zarania on March 20, 2012, 10:47:55 PM

that voice...

What is that supposed to mean?  I don't understand your response, but somehow it feels like you are mocking me.   Please clarify.

Also, I wish this thread could be removed now...I have gotten a llt of responses already which have been helpful/encouraging, but I feel like its time to end the thread.

Quote from: Stephanie_b on March 18, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Well, physically I am a man attempting to produce a higher, female sounding voice.  What were you expecting? 

lol yess... <3

To me, it sounds like you're straining a little to hold the pitch and that's really squeezing out the overtones - that's why it sounds a little minnie mouse like.
Is this pitch close to your voice break?

My suggestion is to try and maybe pitch down a fraction and try and concentrate on making your voice come through your head so to speak.

You've made a good start, keep working at it - I think the potential is there.

apple pie, how in the world did you develop such an awesome voice? Did you use any guides / tutorials to do it, or how? I've been trying to find my female voice for a while now, and each day I end up with a severe case of sore throat the next morning.

Quote from: luna nyan on March 22, 2012, 05:17:24 AM
To me, it sounds like you're straining a little to hold the pitch and that's really squeezing out the overtones - that's why it sounds a little minnie mouse like.
Is this pitch close to your voice break?

My suggestion is to try and maybe pitch down a fraction and try and concentrate on making your voice come through your head so to speak.

You've made a good start, keep working at it - I think the potential is there.

Hi, thanks for your comments.  I agree that the pitch needs to come down some more, and more resonance needs to be eliminated.  Where I am speaking from is close to the breaking point, yes.  It isn't falsetto either.  I have limited resources on my phone, which is what I use for this.  I found an app (its not that great) that lets me see where my pitch is at in hertz.  Its somewhere around 230-250 hrtz, and its pretty difficult to speak like that.

I will be practicing more to lower the pitch.

Quote from: apple pie on March 21, 2012, 04:45:26 AM
Thanks! I like yours better though... I think yours somehow sounds more 'normal' than mine!

Just wanted to say, like others have expressed, I think your voice is awesome.  It sounds really good and gives me hope for mine

You guys should hear one of the moderators' (Zoe Natasha's) voice for a really awesome one! She's amazing, and funny too

Quote from: Maja.V on March 22, 2012, 05:37:00 AM
apple pie, how in the world did you develop such an awesome voice? Did you use any guides / tutorials to do it, or how? I've been trying to find my female voice for a while now, and each day I end up with a severe case of sore throat the next morning.

Eek, don't strain your voice!! I stop doing anything straining on my voice if it starts to feel sore...

Samantharz just reposted some very detailed tips she wrote before on the previous page in this thread!! She'll be pissed that you ignored it Have a read! It's very detailed and I'm sure it will help...
(Why doesn't it get stickied somewhere??? Then Samantharz doesn't have to keep digging it out from the forum abyss every time)
She said she developed it through her work, and for me it was because I kept talking every day with my online friends!
I wish I could say more about how I trained my voice, but I did not do it systematically at all... I just kept adjusting it during practice by intuition...
Though for my practice, besides talking online, I also like to sing male-range songs in a girl voice, and often record my own voice when talking / singing as well (my hard disk is filled with looooots of recordings of my talking and singing!!)
Anyway, when you talk to people, you end up putting all your emotions into your voice as well... which I think makes you sound naturally feminine! (I never tried to deliberately imitate any feminine speech mannerisms / patterns etc.)

And Stephanie_b, of course there's hope for you! It really does sound good for having just started. I'm quite sure it will sound just like any other female voice pretty soon after some more practice! (^^)

I actually read through Samantha's post, and even though it's filled with good tips and advice, it doesn't really help me all that much - especially the "getting the voice in your head" part. I'm completely unable to do that, or I just don't feel it.

I'm now going through candiFLA's transgender voice clips, and while they seem helpful, I'm not sure how much I'll be able to put her advice to use. :/

Thank you for your reply, though. At least now I know not to strain my voice.

Quote from: Maja.V on March 22, 2012, 01:29:44 PM
I actually read through Samantha's post, and even though it's filled with good tips and advice, it doesn't really help me all that much - especially the "getting the voice in your head" part. I'm completely unable to do that, or I just don't feel it.

I'm now going through candiFLA's transgender voice clips, and while they seem helpful, I'm not sure how much I'll be able to put her advice to use. :/

Thank you for your reply, though. At least now I know not to strain my voice.

Ok.  Here's a simple little exercise for you to help you feel where the sound is coming from:
Sing a low note, the lowest that you can.  Feel how the sound comes from the bottom of your throat, and your chest is sort of rumbling.  That's what everyone terms resonance at work, and pretty much at its maximum.
Slowly sing upwards in a scale.  Notice as the pitch rises upwards, the rumbly feeling from the chest disappears and it sort of moves upwards as well.  Once you get past a certain pitch, the muscles in the larynx tighten up and you'll notice that the big vibrations from your chest disappear - you've now moved the voice into the "head voice" pitch area - it's not a falsetto per se, but it's the upper end of your voice register. 
If you keep singing higher you'll then hit the falsetto range.

When you're singing in the head voice pitch, that's sort of where you're wanting to feel the sound come out when you're speaking.  The thing is when you're singing with head voice, there is still some resonance coming from below.

Quote from: Maja.V on March 22, 2012, 01:29:44 PM
I actually read through Samantha's post, and even though it's filled with good tips and advice, it doesn't really help me all that much - especially the "getting the voice in your head" part. I'm completely unable to do that, or I just don't feel it.

I'm now going through candiFLA's transgender voice clips, and while they seem helpful, I'm not sure how much I'll be able to put her advice to use. :/

Thank you for your reply, though. At least now I know not to strain my voice.

Hi there,

When you reach the point where you can't seem to go any higher in your chest voice, the muscles around your throat are really tense, right? You should try to let your muscles relax at that point while producing that pitch. You can try to move different muscles around your throat and see if you can relax them... But like I said, don't strain your voice!

I just recorded something about chest and head voice, and also about talking in chest voice as a possible alternative, since genetic women actually talk in chest voice as well... No guarantees that will work though, since I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere before - and it's definitely non-standard!! But maybe it's worth a try... Otherwise just ignore it... hehe  http://picosong.com/wRx7/

PS "Resonance" doesn't mean the same thing as the deep sound in a voice - resonance refers to the pattern of strong overtones in a voice. This pattern changes the quality or timbre of a voice, and causes a voice to be perceived as male or female. So there's male resonance and female resonance - you don't get rid of the resonance (that'd be falsetto, you don't want that!), you try to change the resonance from a male-like one to a female-like one

Quote from: apple pie on March 23, 2012, 02:42:55 PM
Hi there,

When you reach the point where you can't seem to go any higher in your chest voice, the muscles around your throat are really tense, right? You should try to let your muscles relax at that point while producing that pitch. You can try to move different muscles around your throat and see if you can relax them... But like I said, don't strain your voice!

I just recorded something about chest and head voice, and also about talking in chest voice as a possible alternative, since genetic women actually talk in chest voice as well... No guarantees that will work though, since I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere before - and it's definitely non-standard!! But maybe it's worth a try... Otherwise just ignore it... hehe  http://picosong.com/wRx7/

PS "Resonance" doesn't mean the same thing as the deep sound in a voice - resonance refers to the pattern of strong overtones in a voice. This pattern changes the quality or timbre of a voice, and causes a voice to be perceived as male or female. So there's male resonance and female resonance - you don't get rid of the resonance (that'd be falsetto, you don't want that!), you try to change the resonance from a male-like one to a female-like one

Yes.  May the MALE resonance be gone!

Luna and apple pie, thank you both for the great tips. Now I actually understand what is meant with 'the head' voice.

While I've done away with the pitch, I suppose I'll have to work on my resonance and the strength of my vocal chords.

keep flaming me, guys :3

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