First of all, sorry if this topic is already discussed, I've been searching for such a topic but I failed on finding one, so I found making one is easier.

So, as far as I know contraceptive pills are full of estrogen, which, in case of me taking T and blockers is not really logic. Why would I take female hormones if I'm blocking them and take male hormones (Maybe I'm talking bull->-bleeped-<- now, please correct me if I'm wrong)

So my question is: how am I solving birth control problems without taking in estrogen, but dont tell me about comdoms and taking it out-s because I'm actually looking for another alternative solution that I can use while using condom too.

Thank you

There is no other solution as far as I'm aware. Most birth control pills are either mostly estrogen and progesterone which will both feminize you to some degree.
I would get off the birth control pills if I were you, but if I were you, I also would've never taken them in the first place no matter how hellish of the visit of my "friend" was.

Nonetheless, I still wish you the best of luck.

I'm with Jason on this one. Other than using the "female condom" or a condom, there's nothing else really you can do.

I cannot say I have ever been in your situation because I have never and will never have vaginal sex(well, where it's concerned with me), and I never had monthly visits that merited the use of birth control. So thus, I can't be the best person to take advice from, but I would sincerely and wholeheartedly suggest going off the pill. If you are wanting to get hormone blockers and eventually go on T then it would become futile with your existing birth control script.

The only other thing that I could suggest would be to switch to anal, but not to be on your front while you do it, as sperm can drip down and into the vaginal canal.
Also, pulling out isn't actually the best solution, because even precum and some of the other fluids can sometimes have some sperm in it.
Sorry that I can't be more help to you!

Spermicidal tablets. You can get them at Walgreens, they're called Encare. They're messy, but very effective (and no hormones) and great for short term. Also, talk to a doc about getting paragard. Its hormone free and good for up to 10 years (its just a chunk of copper they stuff up in ya). I think you can get on it even if you haven't had kids, and it's also very effective.

Spermicide can be even less effective than withdrawal. All it really does is irritate the tissues down there.

Condoms are really, really effective, though. All it takes to get the "perfect use" rate of effectiveness is to use one for all contact, every time.

Quote from: Julian on March 19, 2012, 01:24:09 PM
Spermicide can be even less effective than withdrawal. All it really does is irritate the tissues down there.

Condoms are really, really effective, though. All it takes to get the "perfect use" rate of effectiveness is to use one for all contact, every time.

I'm assuming they suggested not to talk about condoms because they are one of those people that doesn't like how they "feel". I would say that getting over using a condom is better than risking pregnancy and getting loads of STDS, and also taking feminizing drugs so I wouldn't have to use one, but the OP said not to recommend condoms for whatever reason. I dunno.

I'm going to reiterate my post and say that there's very little help for them other than condoms if they are concerned about getting pregnant. If they are concerned about not getting their period as much (because birth control sometimes lightens it), they may have to wait to go on testosterone for their period to stop reoccurring unless the OP continues to take birth control pills.

The only times I've had PIV sex were pushed/forced on me, but the dude wore a condom both times. Ugh.

If you like PIV sex, then I'll be straight-up with you: you can do what you want, but taking birth control alongside T AND e-blockers is not a good idea in general. The only people I've seen on blockers are those looking for temporary relief or prepubescent kids who need them to prevent puberty and a whole plethora of bad that comes with it. Even "non-hormonal" birth control can screw with the effects of taking T. Hormone blockers will not stop the birth control's feminizing effects, and can bring the monthly bleeding back if your system is out of whack.

Sterilization is one of those things that eliminates the risk of pregnancy, but it's also expensive and risky depending on what you choose to have done.

IUDs can be non hormonal, but they're also harder to get/keep in your body if you have not been pregnant or had kids.

IMO, dude, I'd try a condom if you're keen on PIV sex. They might decrease sensation in some instances, but better safe than sorry. If you have latex allergies, there are latex free options out there.

Just putting it out there, but did everyone miss the

Quote from: caliyr on March 19, 2012, 11:30:34 AMthat I can use while using condom too.

part of the OP?

I've put the invisible word in bold so you won't all miss it again. 

It's also worth noting that while the withdrawal method is far from perfect, in optimum circumstances it has a 4% failure rate (condoms 2%), and in regular use a failure rate of 18% (condoms 17%). As such it is a very long way from ineffectual.

Quote from: -JR- on March 19, 2012, 12:57:10 PM

ParaGuard has a tendency to make your period heavier and longer though so I would avoid that. I had it and went from a very light no cramps 2-3 day period to a very very heavy doubled over in pain 5-7 day period

My period already lasts for 5-7 days with very intense pain, so if I took that I'd literally die.


Anyways, I'm actually not on pills, I havent ever taken any, and I dont want to, I wanted to have a chest + uterus surgery but docs in my country dont really handle transsexualism so I will have to wait until I move to UK in the summer, and its some time til I get some money as well, and I would get a heart attack if I got pregnant....

Quote from: Zerro on March 19, 2012, 05:20:52 PM
If you like PIV sex,

Actually, I have no idea about it since I havent had sex because the only boyfriend (ex) I made me quite not want to have sex with him plus as you all may have felt, with transsexualism comes a nice anxiety and distress of being naked and stuff....

So actually I am very upset and angry at docotrs, because until last year may, truncated surgery such as chest surgery, uterus removal, as well as castration was totally free, and if they havent held me up, i would have have it all already, but of course they had to be bitchy about my age and start questioning my identity, because I told them that I accept that I have some female traits in mind, but I cant bear them on my body at all... ah, long story.
Thank you for your help, guys.

I would like to be more safe than just condoms however it helps to know when your on T that it can make your sterilize for a time or permenently, so with that + condoms the risk isnt so big.

to be honest I Do think you can use preventation with homones and be on T, but you should sure have a doctor or something to check that it work fine, homones exactly is as I see it hard to discuss because its depens from person to person.

Never mind the fact that the failure rates for female birth control pills seem to actually be higher than advertised. I know at least a dozen friends who were "on the pill" when they got knocked up.

Condoms, when used properly probably do have a higher success rate.

Quote from: caliyr on March 19, 2012, 11:30:34 AM
First of all, sorry if this topic is already discussed, I've been searching for such a topic but I failed on finding one, so I found making one is easier.

So, as far as I know contraceptive pills are full of estrogen, which, in case of me taking T and blockers is not really logic. Why would I take female hormones if I'm blocking them and take male hormones (Maybe I'm talking bull->-bleeped-<- now, please correct me if I'm wrong)

So my question is: how am I solving birth control problems without taking in estrogen, but dont tell me about comdoms and taking it out-s because I'm actually looking for another alternative solution that I can use while using condom too.

Thank you

Aside from hormonal birth control, your options are:

1) IUD (intra-uterine device) --there's a "hormonal IUD", but that's actually an IUS (system).  An IUD, properly inserted and maintained, can be good for up to ten years.  Downside?  You have to be dialated like woah to get it in, and I've heard it can be the most painful thing some-one who hasn't given birth can feel down there.

2) Diaphragm --it's a barrier, like a condom, but unlike an over-the-counter sponge, it has to be fitted properly by your general physician.  Downside?  It has the highest potential for failure of the barrier methods, *but* on HRT, it's potential for failure should be right up there with hormonal birth control.  Also:  FTM HRT may re-shape and smaller the pelvis and cervix; I had to go down two sizes after a year on HRT --and usually as one gets older, one has to go up a size.

3) sponge --works kinda like a diaphragm, only it's one-size-fits-all, and if you're especially small (like, a size 70diaphragm or smaller), it WILL slide out.

4) prayer --might be less effective than pulling out.

5) pulling out --better than nothing?

6) I know you don't want to hear it, but condoms --non-hormonal, no doctor's appointment needed, available in hypoallergenic models.

Seriously, short of a hysterectomy, those are your choices --that or HBC, and if you're on HRT (or planning to be), I'd advise getting off that as soon as possible.

Why don't you take birth control until you do get on T?  T will eventually stop your periods and then basically be its own birth control.

Quote from: JohnAlex on April 01, 2012, 01:00:39 AM
Why don't you take birth control until you do get on T?  T will eventually stop your periods and then basically be its own birth control.

You do realize most birth control pills and shots are hormonal.  Specifically female hormones, in high doses.  That's not really something a lot of trans dudes want to subject themselves to.

I was on the pill until I started taking T and I didn't experience any bad effects from it. My doctor even told me to keep taking it along with the T for the first six weeks to try and keep the bad time at bay until the T had a chance to get rid of it.

I think the pill is demonised a lot in places like this, and I can sort of understand why; I reached a point where I didn't want to take it along with the T anymore because I knew it had E in it, but it never did anything adverse to my body, and in fact helped me out a lot over the years.

It's down to what each person is comfortable with, but trying to scare others away from something because you don't agree with it can do more harm than good.

If you are looking for something to help as well as using a condom but foregoing hormones would be one of a few things. Cervical caps/diaphrams (these sometimes have to be fitted depending where you are), spermicide tablets, or an IUD. I don't have much experience though, since I stopped taking pills and having vaginal sex a long time ago, and my husband had a vasectomy.

For IUDs, Mirena comes to mind. It has progesterone rather than E, and it is usually in smaller doses. I had a friend who had it and loved it, though she had really heavy bleeding for a while.

Sorry I can't be more help.

I've got a friend who lives her IUD. There were some spotting problems and issues with pain/cramps but that went away after a month or two. It's very effective, and cost efficient (I think without insurance it's $500 and lasts 5 years). Condoms should still be used to prevent STD transmission and if you're sexually active you should get tested regularly.

Quote from: JohnAlex on April 01, 2012, 01:00:39 AM
Why don't you take birth control until you do get on T?  T will eventually stop your periods and then basically be its own birth control.

HRT cannot be trusted as its own contraceptive.  It really can't.  On-line and off, I've encountered a combined five (maybe six, I'm unsure if one was on HRT or not) trans men who've ended up getting pregnant because they made the mistaken assumption of "HRT = Hormonal Birth Control".  One even got pregnant from his wife, who's a trans woman.

People really need to get the idea of "HRT = HBC" out of their heads.

And I don't know why some-one who's trans male would want to give themselves a mega-dose of female, and not to mention feminising hormones. 

Quote from: Axélle-Michélle on April 01, 2012, 01:31:53 AM
Has anyone mentioned IUD like Mirena?

Since it is only progestin only loaded it aught not interfere with T... now wouldn't it.

It seem VERY save from all I have heard/learned from gg friends.

Axélle

Minera is technically an IUS, which I've mentioned.  A copper IUD is non-hormonal.  On the other hand, if you have a copper allergy (something easily tested for), it should obviously be avoided --and if it's not properly maintained (you should check it every few weeks to make sure it's positioned properly), it can be easily rendered useless.

Quote from: Bane on April 01, 2012, 09:04:08 AM
I was on the pill until I started taking T and I didn't experience any bad effects from it. My doctor even told me to keep taking it along with the T for the first six weeks to try and keep the bad time at bay until the T had a chance to get rid of it.

I think the pill is demonised a lot in places like this, and I can sort of understand why; I reached a point where I didn't want to take it along with the T anymore because I knew it had E in it, but it never did anything adverse to my body, and in fact helped me out a lot over the years.

It's down to what each person is comfortable with, but trying to scare others away from something because you don't agree with it can do more harm than good.

Sure, to each their own, but I had a bad time with HBC, so much so that I won't recommend it to other FTM-spectrum people --but at the same time, like you said, another's experience is not easily predictable, so I'm not going to come down on some-one for going against what I advise.

But the OP specifically asked for options aside from HBC, so why would I recommend it?

Quote from: FairyInBoots on April 01, 2012, 11:50:12 PM
HRT cannot be trusted as its own contraceptive.  It really can't.  On-line and off, I've encountered a combined five (maybe six, I'm unsure if one was on HRT or not) trans men who've ended up getting pregnant because they made the mistaken assumption of "HRT = Hormonal Birth Control".  One even got pregnant from his wife, who's a trans woman.

I don't know if you are talking about who I think you are, but I saw a thing on TV about that.  The man's wife had been on female hormones for 10 years so they were operating under the assumption that they were sterile and along came baby.