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Started by naiwuwro, April 10, 2012, 06:00:18 PM

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naiwuwro

I'm from Kishinyov, in Moldova.
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Tristan

sure you could. and the voice thing you could train that. as for 5 10 thats normal for models and sports woman
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luna nyan

Quote from: naiwuwro on April 10, 2012, 08:14:38 PM
Can someone explain why everyone is against self-medicating?

I have some medical training.  BUT, I am not trained to deal with the endocrine system - if I really wanted to, I could quite easily get the meds legally and self medicate but I chose not to take the risk.

Wrong dosages with spiro have potentially fatal effects.  If you look up the known interactions of spiro, along with complications and how rapidly they can occur, you will realise that they're not candies that you just pop into your mouth and hope for the best.

Same with estrogens.  There are things that need to be monitored to keep you safe and healthy.

A's has given sound reasons to consider self medicating as a last resort, and I would agree with her post.
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Kelly J. P.

 Asks for pictures, doesn't comment on them...

As for why self-medicating is bad, I'd say it's only because it's possible to get tainted samples. As long as you run blood tests and obtain meds from a good source, it's pretty safe, and I wish I would've done it that way.
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naiwuwro

Also, if something goes wrong and I'm taken into the hospital unconscious, will they know what's wrong or should I leave a note on my desk or something explaining what's going on?
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A

Quote from: luna nyan on April 11, 2012, 07:02:10 AM
A's has given sound reasons to consider self medicating as a last resort, and I would agree with her post.
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Quote from: naiwuwro on April 11, 2012, 02:28:58 PM
Also, if something goes wrong and I'm taken into the hospital unconscious, will they know what's wrong or should I leave a note on my desk or something explaining what's going on?
Unless you get really crazy and swallow like 10x the dose or more and/or wait for many days feeling like crap without seeing anyone, no such thing should happen. But should it happen, yes, they will probably know what's wrong. And even if they don't, they can ask whoever called the ambulance for you.
Quote from: Annah on April 10, 2012, 11:17:08 PM
Also....estrogen and spiro will not stop your height gain no matter the age you start.
It would probably slow it to "what she'd have had from that point on had she been female", if you ask me, though.
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Seyranna

I started at 29 and after 6 months of HRT I'm hotter than many mtf I've seen who started way younger than me and have been on HRT for longer and I have. I have nice B cups that I can bump to a D cup with push up bras too ^.^+.

Being young doesn't influence how receptive you are to HRT.

Even as young as 17 your bone structure can be irreversibly more masculine than mine was.

You need a certain amount of fat to see fat redistribution happening too. If your face is bony( which is often the case at such a young age) chances are you'll have poor facial redistribution which could make passing harder.
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Annah

I get suspicious when people brag that they are prettier than most other MtF.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Bexi on April 10, 2012, 06:06:50 PM
Like I said, everyone's different. Many women have deep voices, just like many have broad shoulders and theres many who tower over us 5'10s lol! Everyone comes in all shapes and sizes so have faith and a positive outlook and I wish you all the best.

PS I think its against the rules to post your doseages :)

X

I'm 5' 7" and I've not seen many cis women who tower over me or have broad shoulders? most cis women in my town are on average about 5' 5" tall. 

Quote from: Bexi on April 10, 2012, 06:06:50 PM
Everyones different tbh. It depends a lot on the starting subject - bone structure, genes, etc. But i've seen people who have transistioned in their teens end up not passing and ive also seen ladies in their 50s/60s/70s who you would swear were born female. 

I agree that a few who transition in their teens might not pass but I have seen some great passable transitions in their 20's and 30's but I don't think I've seen any 100% passable transsexuals who have been starting their transitions when they are over 50? but as you say it's all to do with genetics, bone structure, physical appearance and receptiveness to HRT and Anti androgens.

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Bexi

Really? I stay in a fairly large city and of my immediate female friends, only two are shorter than me, two are roughly the same size and 3 are taller than me! As far as i'm aware, we didnt meet up in basketball club  :laugh: But all my male friends, bar one, are taller than me  :-\

Again maybe its just genetics, maybe its something in the air around here or maybe everyone but me wears platform shoes.... :P
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Bexi on April 13, 2012, 08:45:59 AM
Really? I stay in a fairly large city and of my immediate female friends, only two are shorter than me, two are roughly the same size and 3 are taller than me! As far as i'm aware, we didnt meet up in basketball club  :laugh: But all my male friends, bar one, are taller than me  :-\

Again maybe its just genetics, maybe its something in the air around here or maybe everyone but me wears platform shoes.... :P

That's surprising as you are from Scotland also. I also find that most males are taller than me but not many females are taller. What height are you? and are your female friends wearing heels when they are out with you? I'm 5' 7" and find I'm taller than most females in my area.  When I travel south to London I find there are more taller females.
 
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Bexi

Im probably closer to 5'9 than 5'10, strangely enough i'm a triplet but both my brothers are easily 4/5 inches taller than me.

Lol my female friends sometimes wear heels on nights out, but without them on there are still 5 who are the same size, if not taller. Ironically the tallest one is about 6'3 and on occassion wears heels to tell us when danger is near  :P.

Are you also from Scotland?   
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susanewing

I recently joined Susan's so this is my first reply. Obviously people are different physically when they start transition. I started quite late because I was afraid to accept my true self. Anyway after lots of work with my wonderful therapist I fully accepted my GID and started transition in earnest. My therapist works closely with an excellent doctor so together they guided me carefully through HRT. By the way I was lucky because I am 5'7" 130 lbs with small bones and soft features. I needed to get rid of my beard so I got intensive electrolysis (I n my opinion getting rid of your beard is extremely important) and started voice training. After 6 months of HRT and knowing full well I was on the right path I got an orci. It was the right thing for me as the estrogen shots were no longer inhibited by T and my clothes fit much better. One year after starting HRT I had breast implants. I plan SRS next year. As for results, I am totally passable and live full time as a woman. All my legal documents have been changed and I have not been clocked in a year. In summary transition is possible at a late age but the earlier you start the better. Many of us were not able to start when we were young but if you really have GID it will not go away and you need to accept your self and go forward no matter what your age.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Bexi on April 13, 2012, 09:21:03 AM
Im probably closer to 5'9 than 5'10, strangely enough i'm a triplet but both my brothers are easily 4/5 inches taller than me.

Lol my female friends sometimes wear heels on nights out, but without them on there are still 5 who are the same size, if not taller. Ironically the tallest one is about 6'3 and on occassion wears heels to tell us when danger is near  :P.

Are you also from Scotland?

My brother is tall, not sure how tall he is but he towers over me and must be about 6 foot something. My sister is the same height as me but she was classed as tall when she was a teenager. We are both 5' 7".  I'm not from Scotland originally.


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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: susanewing on April 13, 2012, 09:57:06 AM
I recently joined Susan's so this is my first reply. Obviously people are different physically when they start transition. I started quite late because I was afraid to accept my true self. Anyway after lots of work with my wonderful therapist I fully accepted my GID and started transition in earnest. My therapist works closely with an excellent doctor so together they guided me carefully through HRT. By the way I was lucky because I am 5'7" 130 lbs with small bones and soft features. I needed to get rid of my beard so I got intensive electrolysis (I n my opinion getting rid of your beard is extremely important) and started voice training. After 6 months of HRT and knowing full well I was on the right path I got an orci. It was the right thing for me as the estrogen shots were no longer inhibited by T and my clothes fit much better. One year after starting HRT I had breast implants. I plan SRS next year. As for results, I am totally passable and live full time as a woman. All my legal documents have been changed and I have not been clocked in a year. In summary transition is possible at a late age but the earlier you start the better. Many of us were not able to start when we were young but if you really have GID it will not go away and you need to accept your self and go forward no matter what your age.

Great post susanewing!
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noleen111

i started HRT at 21, and it has worked nicely for me... I am now 23 ... I have C cup breasts and a nice little figure...i have been told by woman that I look cute in jeans...

and I am light smoker, which is a big no no when on hormones... everyone reacts differently to the hormones
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Bexi

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on April 13, 2012, 10:05:22 AM
My brother is tall, not sure how tall he is but he towers over me and must be about 6 foot something. My sister is the same height as me but she was classed as tall when she was a teenager. We are both 5' 7".  I'm not from Scotland originally.
I must have absurdly tall friends then hehe! Most of my family is from Scotland with a smattering of English, Welsh, Swedish and German thrown in just to make things interesting!

Regarding the hormones - ive been on HRT for nearly 6 months and my breast development is quite good. I haven't measured them since the turn of the year, but they have shown definite improvement and are near impossible to conceal (should I choose). ALL the women in my family have large busts, and i've always been slim/muscled due to my lifestyle and hobbies, so I think thats helped in my honest opinion. The muscles in my shoulders and arms have reduced too, and ive always had small wrists; so my arms appear softer. Bad thing is my calfs and thighs, which are probably as lethal as Xenia Onatopp's!  :embarrassed:

Quote from: susanewing on April 13, 2012, 10:05:22 AM
I recently joined Susan's so this is my first reply. Obviously people are different physically when they start transition. I started quite late because I was afraid to accept my true self. Anyway after lots of work with my wonderful therapist I fully accepted my GID and started transition in earnest. My therapist works closely with an excellent doctor so together they guided me carefully through HRT. By the way I was lucky because I am 5'7" 130 lbs with small bones and soft features. I needed to get rid of my beard so I got intensive electrolysis (I n my opinion getting rid of your beard is extremely important) and started voice training. After 6 months of HRT and knowing full well I was on the right path I got an orci. It was the right thing for me as the estrogen shots were no longer inhibited by T and my clothes fit much better. One year after starting HRT I had breast implants. I plan SRS next year. As for results, I am totally passable and live full time as a woman. All my legal documents have been changed and I have not been clocked in a year. In summary transition is possible at a late age but the earlier you start the better. Many of us were not able to start when we were young but if you really have GID it will not go away and you need to accept your self and go forward no matter what your age.
Totally 100% agree - loss of the beard really opens up the face and is way more feminine  :P Obviously ::) :)
X
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Renee D

I started at 40 and now at 49, I still have tiny breasts, but I have a halfway decent shape and not particularly hideous looking.  I don't have any issues with my height either which is 5'10".

All of it just depends on how well you respond to hormones and how much money you have for surgeries. I've taken the low budget route, low dose hormones and no surgeries yet. Being poor and transitioning does kind of suck.
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Bexi

Quote from: Jaime on April 13, 2012, 12:33:09 PM
I started at 40 and now at 49, I still have tiny breasts, but I have a halfway decent shape and not particularly hideous looking.  I don't have any issues with my height either which is 5'10".

All of it just depends on how well you respond to hormones and how much money you have for surgeries. I've taken the low budget route, low dose hormones and no surgeries yet. Being poor and transitioning does kind of suck.
Totally! Im saving up for FFS but as im still at university its a sloooowwwwwwwww process. Whilst im at work, I just put my intention to transistion in the back of my mind (im still stealth) and focus solely on doing the job at hand and increasing my bank account. Unlike surgeries, the hormones make miniscule changes over time, which we dont realise or appreciate, but im determined to wait and see how well they affect me before I choose to do anything more ... dramatic
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Bexi on April 13, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
Regarding the hormones - ive been on HRT for nearly 6 months and my breast development is quite good. I haven't measured them since the turn of the year, but they have shown definite improvement and are near impossible to conceal (should I choose). ALL the women in my family have large busts, and i've always been slim/muscled due to my lifestyle and hobbies, so I think thats helped in my honest opinion. The muscles in my shoulders and arms have reduced too, and ive always had small wrists; so my arms appear softer. Bad thing is my calfs and thighs, which are probably as lethal as Xenia Onatopp's!  :embarrassed:
Totally 100% agree - loss of the beard really opens up the face and is way more feminine  :P Obviously ::) :)
X

My experiences are different. I have been on prescription HRT for about 14 years now and the changes I have achieved are very slight. I assume I would do well with transition as I was often perceived as female long before transition and thought I would transition well. But HRT hasn't done the things I thought it would. My breast development is small although just recently they have started to grow a little and I'm starting to get more fat on my legs and thighs. But it's taken me over a decade to achieve this.
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