sorry its took so long to reply to you, its not that often i get to use our computer without half the house wanting it first, its such a shame that no one did come to your group, you probably live somewhere like me where this thing isnt the norm and people just think we are weired. I know my partner thinks like that and probably everyone who lives by me thinks the same. Its a pity there arent more support type of groups out there because i know these forums are a good way to talk to people like ourselves but you just cant beat sitting and talking to each other. We all have very similar stories to tell that most people just dont understand and dont want to understand. I'm just in a position where i know what i want but love the people around too much to hurt them which i know i will because they just wont understand. i'm going to have to just keep plugging away at this life i live and see where the road takes me. Anyway thanks for replying you were the only one, (just shows how many support groups there are in liverpool) and if you want to chat again i'll try and keep up to date with my replies.