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is this bad reasoning ?

Started by mementomori, May 13, 2012, 12:11:35 AM

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mementomori

i think its pretty known that a full dose of HRT leave you with the inability to get erections easily etc , Even though ive never hated or felt uncomfortable about having a penis or getting erections , i often find myself thinking if youce been on hrt for a long time and its still functioning like a penis should

would it be bad idea to consider SRS since it becomes useless in its traditonal sense ?

i for one dont think i care if i have a penis or a vagina as long as what i have feels good , and im sure it would increase options sexually allows for vaginal penetration instead of just anal . but if i dont mind if i have a penis or a vagina and only care if it feels good sexually in terms of sensitivty and ability to have and orgasm , is it worth the risk purely based on a " if go this far i might as well go the whole way ? "
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Cindy

This is an area that needs to be carefully discussed with the therapists. No one is exactly the same. Were I am we do have to have 12 month RLE before surgery. If we want surgery we receive another full psychiatric evaluation to 'ensure' that is our true desire.

Not sure if that helps with your question.

Hugs

Cindy
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mementomori

i meant to write " and if its not functioning like a penis traditionally does "

i really need to read things over before i post them lol
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Cindy

I think many of us seek that option although there is nothing wrong if someone doesn't want to go that way. Some woman are comfortable with having a penis and don't feel the need for full SRS. It may also be too expensive or they have underlying medical issues that prevent surgery.  No right or wrong choices, you are still a woman no matter what.
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kelly_aus

Can't say I've had any issues with function.. I do have to be in the right mood though. It no longer has a mind of it's own though..

I don't hate it, it's just not right. Would I like SRS? Sure, but there are a few issues. Firstly, the expense.. Secondly, I don't react well to anaesthesia, last time I had a general I 'overslept' for about 12 hours. Whether I do or don't eventually have it doesn't make me any more or less of a woman though..

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mementomori

 

it actually isn't about being " gay" i do have gender dysphoria just never really have about that part of me 
, when i started getting facial hair it basically made me feel sick and couldn't bear to touch my face if had any stubble , thankfully i iv'e removed most of that 

i don't really think myself mentally male or female because i think those things are an illusion / a social construct . I think what it comes down to is whether or not your comfortable with you're physical form . I do believe that the brain can be set up to be programmed to feel as if that its functional set up/ wiring is supposed to be in harmony with a male or female body and sometimes the mind and body do not agree with each other 

whatever causes this i think has variation within itself i think variates in strength between people so some feel gender dysphoric about some parts of their body but not others others whereas some will feel dypsphoric about their entire bodies and all its functions . 

but this is different to being mentally male or female in terms of thought structure and preference for clothing or hobbies / interests i truly believe those things to be entirely a social construct . 

I find it a little bit worrying when people cite being transsexual over the fact they prefer to dress in what is commonly thought of as " womens " clothes in this society or liked to play with ' dolls " as a child   

its just that people get confused being uncomfortable with the socially constructed and picked out gender role construct society deems appropriate for their physical form with being dyphoric about their actual physical bodies 

i know transwomen who hate makeup hate heels hate " womens" clothes and consider themselves to be tomboys , people find that confusing when its explained to them but, what people cant get around is that its about the physical form not the social construct/ fashion of gender 

when someone is dpyhoric say about 80 percent or  50 percent or  whatever  the figure may be about aspects of their physical sex and has strong dyphoria in regards to these elements this is where it gets complicated 

and when people oversimplify some ones identity by suggesting they are " just a submissive gay male " its trivializes a much more complex issue and disregards some ones own identity because it doesn't align with their own personal experiences 

its seems your quite naive about anal sex as well " the messyness " actually the inside of the anus is very clean  the only time when you'll run into feces is if a person doesn't know how to clean the outer area of their anus properly 

sex is messy period , anal or vaginal 

i find the subtle homophobia coming through in your posts quite disturbing

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mementomori

By the way im not attacking you at all lilacwoman within this post , i just want you to think about how you come across in some of your posts
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AbraCadabra

I think "woman with penis" and it being OK, is some kind of identification thing.

I, and plenty others, find it difficult if not impossible, to identify with this. But that does not mean EVERYONE feels that way. It's just that some do feel quite strongly the a female has a vj - and that's that.

It is however interesting that even if the "woman with penis" concept is considered just fine, then how come, we when pre- or non-op, go on about tucking and hiding it away, going on about breast growths, and the like?
This is not to be adverse, it just begs the question - at least for me.
Why not then simply present like a male or what ever, including genitals – and make your case that you are a female. Period. What's wrong with that?
In my case I know the answer... it was GID/GD.

I do recall also, that when I spoke to my shrink about it, I expressed that I felt is was some sort of "imposition" to any male to expect to be OK with a penis on a female partner. Personally "I" could not get my head around that – and it may well be my very own limitation. We all have our limits, and so have I.

Now those are just MY thoughts and feelings, and: 'what we can not feel - we do not understand'. Period.

BTW, I also did NOT have any major dysphoria with my former genitals. I sort of "tolerated" them, - and they where fine to get off i.e. I could touch them just fine. But, they got 'emotionally' in the way of my transition. Like a rucksack I was wearing, pretending there was no rucksack, yet there was.

It was MUCH more a sense of lacking some sort of completeness/convergence and is was this, that was the driving force, and a VERY powerful one, that made me seek out SRS.

The OP speaks about "reasoning" ... the above are my 'reasons', yet in the end it is ALL tied to emotion and VERY little to reason actually.
It is this that can makes transition for some such a horrendous trip into the unknown.

If you (emotionally) are clear what it is you want/need, more then half the battle is won. It's the way I can say this for myself.
YET - we ARE all different when reason alone just does not cut it.

Axélle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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