I was sent to an all boys christian school from first to sixth grade. Nobody had thought me to act like a boy, so I went around being myself, a girl. I could not understand why my classmates rejected me and constantly were hitting me. It was even harder the constant hitting imparted by the priests, who were also the teachers. I learned to become invisible and to hide, that help but did not prevent the beatings. In fifth grade things come to a climax of sort. While changing for gym, one of the priest noticed I was wearing panties. He punched me in the face repeatedly making my nose and mouth bleed, then he pull my pants down to my ankles, took me to the outside patio and while most of the schools kids and the other priests were looking, proceeded to lash me in the back and legs with his belts until he was out of air. I could see the horror in the faces of my schoolmates, but nobody came to my help despite my cries. Later on, the janitor picked me up and eased me to an spigot where he helped me to wash myself. I would never forget the taste of blood and dirt in my mouth!

A few days ago I went to the department of motor vehicles to have my licence change from M to F. Well, after the deal was done, they guy behind the counter, who is an state employee, told me: "You know, Jesus love you just the way you are, God made you a perfect man, you do not have to change that!"

All the painful memories rushed to my mind and filled me with extreme rage, i wanted to reach across the counter a beat the ever loving ->-bleeped-<- out this Christian bastard. But not, I kept my coolness by remembering that "revenge is better served cold."

I was so humiliated and mortified; I went home and cried for a while. Later on I told what happened to my oldest boy, who is a Marine. My son got really angry, and told me me we had to do something about.

Well, today I went to the motor vehicle departmen with my son, and spoke to the head of the department, and related the incident. The lady boss apologized profusely and told me: "a letter of reprimented will be entered in the bastard official file, and that later on it will be counted negatively during his yearly evaluation, and that if he does it again, he will be fired."


Perhap she deserved more, and I could have gotten more if I had taken this matter with my lawyer, but to know that the bastard can kiss good bye any promotion or salary increase is enough for me.

Completely unacceptable behaviour. In the UK they would not have a leg to stand on. I can understand how in unison all the painful memories can be reawoken under such circumstances.

I am sorry this happen to you, I have had number of things happen to me while being raised at a boys ranch when I was younger and things my parents did to me. But sadly people who say they are Christians do evil things, and hatred and abuse are evil. I however have nothing but love in my heart and I have even forgiven people for the past, including my parents. I forgave them so I could heal as Jesus has forgiven me for the things that I have done personally to hurt God, yes I have my share of sins as well.

Good for you, and I'm glad you had a supportive son to go with you (I think filing complaints is something that a witness is important for, particularly a witness that has credibility - a military member in good standing has credibility).  It's important to file complaints against government agencies when garbage like this happens.

Jesus does love you just as you are - as the woman you are.  That DMV idiot clearly wasn't walking with the Spirit of God if he was trying to get you to live a lie.  God would know who you are, and someone speaking for God should too - or they should shut up.

Things like that employee's statement really, really....well, they really get my blood boiling.  I probably would have got arrested for the sermon I'd deliver him in response to his garbage.  It really irks me when people try to disguise hatred and bigotry as love or religion.  It's neither.

I'm pleased that you reported this and that the cockroach will get its dues.

But this seems to be a USA thing. In Australia if anyone like that mentioned anything close to those remarks they would not be reprimanded. They would be fired, on the spot.

I went to a Christian Brothers School, it was Hell. I was the only female student that I knew of. I was in shock from the day I was incarcerated till the day I left.

Years later they sent me a letter, as an ex-memeber, that they were going co-ed. I wrote back saying they had been co-ed from the day I was placed in the school. I never got a reply

Sick bunch of Freaks

Sorry

Cindy

"Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do." Someone once said that, I forget who.

It reminds me of a Nietzche quote:

The word "Christianity" is already a misunderstanding - in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross.

Quote from: Sephirah on May 26, 2012, 04:26:17 AM
"Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do." Someone once said that, I forget who.

It reminds me of a Nietzche quote:

The word "Christianity" is already a misunderstanding - in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross.

Why is it that those who have been to Hell, know what humanity is.

Why do people who quote the details of Christ's life for their own gain forget the important parts.

The suffering. The torture. The rejection.

The rebirth.

Why do people ignore the one sentence that runs through most religions both Christian and Non-Christian

Different ways of saying it.

Love your neighbour as you love yourself.

And people still search for the fundamental truth.

It's 42!

No; it's loving people.

Begins and ends there.

Cindy

*hugs* I'm glad you have such a wonderful son, and that post made me cry a little. It's so hard to imagine people that twisted exist outside of stories... I try to tell myself Christianity is like a weapon in this situation, It's so interchangeable that the real culprit is the person who uses it, and if they didn't have god to do horrible things in the name of, they would find something else.

You are very much right, I'm the same way. I don't consider myself Christian, actually I never have since I was a child. x3 I remember always talking to my grandma about things and she'd explain the "Christian way of thinking" and I just would politely argue with her (This was when I was like 6).

I remember the day I was baptized (10 or 11? I was only baptized because all my siblings and relatives were doing it at the same time and felt pressured), I stood outside the church and realized I felt nothing because religion wasn't something that fulfilled me. Overtime I started to grow jaded and thinking all Religion was bad, the cause of wars, ect. And when you look at some of the news... It's hard to not feel like the bad religion causes on a wide scale outweighs the good it brings people individually.

However, I realized that Religion/Belief in something more isn't simply something that can "go away", It's core to our existence as humanity. It's hardwired for us to think about, and that I just have to accept that horrible things will be done in the name of everything. People kill over simple things, and that the crimes committed in the name of something, Is also a crime against the thing. it extends far beyond Religion, Political Views, Nations, ect. We as people just have to try and do the best we can to support kindness and open thinking, so that maybe just one more person on Earth can be good.

That said, I think anyone who has been hurt by someone has every right to blame the thing the bad people used as a tool. It's simply a reasonable and justified way of thinking.

Thank you all for your comments and good wishes, and for keeping the conversation civil

Happy Memorial Day to you all !!!

Quote from: peky on May 26, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
It is not just the personal suffering I experience at the hands of the Religious folks that have make me hate all religion figures; but also the cultural genocide inflicted in the name of disseminating the "good news."

I am sorry if I offend some of you who are really religious, I do respect your right to your beliefs, and right to express your view. In the same spirit I hope you can tolerate my right to document all the crimes commited in the name of Jesus.

As a Christian, I have no problem with someone documenting or calling out a crime of someone who claims to do it in the name of Christ.  I do the same, as I believe crimes committed in the name of God are, spiritually, worse than many other crimes - because they wound the soul as well as the body and mind.

But if someone stereotypes Christians as cultural killers, hateful, ignorant, etc, I probably will speak up.

Just as people don't need religion to be good (something I agree with you about completely), people don't need religion to be bad either.  There's plenty of reasons people enforce their cultures on other people - religion is but one.

I'm sorry that you've been abused by people who justify it by using the name of Christ.  You are right to be angry (I'm also angry that people are evil).  Not all of us Christians do that to people, and I hope we can get the respect to not be lumped in with the abusers.

Peky, I am so sorry you had to go through all that.  You are very lucky to have a son that stands by you.  I think reporting him is the least you could have done.  With that said, as a Christian, that man's actions disgust me.  Anyone who judges, hurts, or does anything evil is not doing it in the name of God.  God loves all of us, in my belief, and He does not use hatred to punish us.  In my opinion, that man is not a true Christian. 
I would like to second Slanan's request that not all us Christians be lumped into that ugly group.