right so every one knows i came out about a month ago, well ever since then i have noticed if i leave any clothes on the floor my parents male dog will pee on them.
it's the strangest thing,also he has become very jealous of me and won't even let me get anywhere near my mother, could it be a dominance thing?, (since he is no longer the only other male in the house) 

sorry i just had to share

I don't know what it is but it's kind funny.

Are you using any different deodorants or different smell on you?

no that's what makes it weird

I'm not certain.  It could be many things that have the dog doing this.  Is there anything you've done differently since coming out?

I know a guy where this happened with a cat he had known and lived with before and as he transitioned. The cat got really freaky toward him attacking him whenever he walked through a room, the fa rther into his transition, the worse it became. Idk why this happened. I think in general people understand dogs better than cats. You might consider talking to a dog trainer or animal behaviourlist. Theres a place in Colorado I think called the Dumb Friends something or other (people are the dumb friends). They have a website and do free online and I believe phone consultations. No idea if they would be able to help w your situation but maybe they have experience w it or could still make educated guess about why and what to try. They helped me a ton w a feral cat I took in. I'm sure there are other places like that, check universities with animal sciences degrees perhaps.best of luck.

Quote from: dky on May 31, 2012, 08:00:59 AM
I know a guy where this happened with a cat he had known and lived with before and as he transitioned. The cat got really freaky toward him attacking him whenever he walked through a room, the fa rther into his transition, the worse it became. Idk why this happened. I think in general people understand dogs better than cats. You might consider talking to a dog trainer or animal behaviourlist. Theres a place in Colorado I think called the Dumb Friends something or other (people are the dumb friends). They have a website and do free online and I believe phone consultations. No idea if they would be able to help w your situation but maybe they have experience w it or could still make educated guess about why and what to try. They helped me a ton w a feral cat I took in. I'm sure there are other places like that, check universities with animal sciences degrees perhaps.best of luck.

I hate to be your mom, but what happens if you pick up your clothes? Actually might be the easiest thing to do. Otherwise, this is a good group dky recommends. The word "dumb" means not speaking btw.

This is a really interesting area, I could understand if you were on T as that would change your scent quite a lot. Are you *wearing* something different? Dogs don't see clothes as outside you, they see them as part of you. This explains the mailman mailbag. Some dogs go nuts with heavy winter parkas. But this all is on the floor. Strange thing.

--Jay Jay

Your dog is being territorial.  It smells your new pheromones on your clothes as something foreign and is re-scenting (also it can be a sign of stress, depending on the situation and frequency).  As for being protective of your mother, that's the mark of a good dog, but also an over protective animal can be quite a handful (and potentially dangerous).  You may need to regain your pets trust again, this could take awhile.  I cut up hot dogs into small bite size pieces and use them as training incentives.  (Pretty soon just your praise should be enough and the treats won't be necessary.)  I'm sure you don't want to smell like hot dogs constantly but if your dog associates you with the smell of hot dogs and playtime or receiving a reward, his behavior should change but you need to remain consistent with your punishments, rewards and treatment.  Your family may also need to show the dog less affection in your presence so he can re-bond with you, but in time this should resolve itself if you're consistent.

Ep, not sure why it would be pheromones, but the idea is a good one. I think I'd try the suggestion.


--Jay Jay

Quote from: Ep on May 31, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
Your dog is being territorial.  It smells your new pheromones on your clothes as something foreign

What new pheromones, as far as I know Justin is not on T.

Quote from: Andy8715 on May 31, 2012, 09:40:01 PM
What new pheromones, as far as I know Justin is not on T.

Justin could have come into contact with synthetic pheromones depending on his line of work or neighborhood, he also could have changed deodorant, body wash or cologne which masks your pheromones.  Dogs can smell things 100,000 times better than humans, but the smell of same-species (and different species) pheromones can influence their behavior.  K9's sniff out missing persons "scent" in order to find them, they really can smell just about anything.

Quote from: Ep on May 31, 2012, 10:10:43 PM
Justin could have come into contact with synthetic pheromones depending on his line of work or neighborhood, he also could have changed deodorant, body wash or cologne which masks your pheromones.  Dogs can smell things 100,000 times better than humans, but the smell of same-species (and different species) pheromones can influence their behavior.  K9's sniff out missing persons "scent" in order to find them, they really can smell just about anything.

As Andy said i am not on T as of yet, as for coming in contact with pheromones at work. i took a month off work just before coming out to help with my sister(who was getting married and is pregnant and is moving house)and haven't started back yet, so it can't be that. as for the neighbourhood well i live in a semi rural area so i don't believe it is that. i have not changed soap, deodorant or cologne. the dog isn't aggressive towards me, he just pees on my clothes, has to put himself between myself and my mother(even if there is no room he will force his way until one of us moves) and he constantly gives me the death stare.(it's as if he is saying how dare you go near her) it's just so funny and the timing of his behaviour change is just weird

this is the look he gives me all the time

Quote from: Justin 21 on May 31, 2012, 11:02:30 PM
my sister (who was getting married and is pregnant and is moving house)and haven't started back yet, so it can't be that. as for the neighbourhood well i live in a semi rural area so i don't believe it is that. i have not changed soap, deodorant or cologne. the dog isn't aggressive towards me, he just pees on my clothes, has to put himself between myself and my mother(even if there is no room he will force his way until one of us moves) and he constantly gives me the death stare.(it's as if he is saying how dare you go near her) it's just so funny and the timing of his behaviour change is just weird

Well, your sister could be giving out quite a whiff that's meshing with yours.  In the country it's much more common to come into contact with synthetic pheromones, people use them often to keep away large or predatory animals from their yards and crops.  Dogs also could pick up on emotions, maybe it's getting something from your relatives?  Your dogs behavior isn't acceptable, but it's not abnormal.  Plenty of dogs like to steal chicks underwear if they've been menstruating, others spray.  Your dog is clearly upset with you, it really may be all emotional but either way you have to go re-bond with him if you want it to stop.  If you don't care how the dog acts, you can ignore it and keep your clothes off the floor.  If you catch him in the act or about to, make a loud clap with your hands and hollar at him verbally.  That should spook him off.  Worse case scenario, scoop him up and while holding him lunge him towards your peed on clothes saying firmly "No, no, no"  That would really spook him off, but you may need to do it a few times.  I usually reserve that as a last ditch effort with smaller animals (had a cat that would destroy every ornament on the Xmas tree) but it's effective.