Just wondering how many of us feel passable in the morning after waking up (before makeup), and how long it took to get that way? I was passable in the street before I started hormones, but have looked indisputably male in the morning until fairly recently.

I suppose voice should be included as an element of passability. I tend to get down to a croakier, male-like voice in the morning until I remember to crank it back up to the right level.

In the last few weeks I've noticed that I stopped getting too depressed about what I look like in the morning, because something is beginning to shift.... it's nice.

You tell me!
For me it was about... 6-8 months I think? When I caught my reflection in the mirror and I didn't see a guy standing there.
And my voice is.. well, my voice. my natural voice is apparently quite passable. No training at all. It's just a lot softer in the morning when I'm half asleep.

I live alone at the moment, so I don't have to worry what a partner thinks I look like when I wake.
As I am a confirmed Lipstick Lesbian I won't leave the house without my mascara and lippy properly done.  I will admit I can live without the rest of the makeup. 

Karen.

Hair aside, I think fairly OK. Nevertheless, I still feel naked without a little makeup

Quote from: Keaira on June 02, 2012, 02:41:58 AM
And my voice is.. well, my voice. my natural voice is apparently quite passable. No training at all. It's just a lot softer in the morning when I'm half asleep.

That must be really nice! I have a feeling my voice will be one of the more difficult hurdles to overcome in my transition, so small favors like these are certainly a blessing.

for me, its just as badly in the morning as it is the rest of the day.

Quote from: Flandre on June 02, 2012, 09:23:36 AM
That must be really nice! I have a feeling my voice will be one of the more difficult hurdles to overcome in my transition, so small favors like these are certainly a blessing.

You'll get there! I was just really lucky with what nature gave me. I don't hear what others hear in my voice so I constantly worry about how I sound, despite passing vocally. I just got off the phone with a stranger and got called ma'am no problem. And I had been asleep.

some days I see male some days female. all depending how the light hits me.

My hair actually looks better in the morn,

it's so darn straight in the day time but when I get up its wavy and messy...I've seen girls pay big money to get the same look, lol

Quote from: Kadri on June 02, 2012, 01:34:41 AM
Just wondering how many of us feel passable in the morning after waking up (before makeup), and how long it took to get that way? I was passable in the street before I started hormones, but have looked indisputably male in the morning until fairly recently.

I don't really wear make up but I always make sure my skin is completely clear and moisturized. When I've answered the door to the postman (mailman) in the morning I'm just out of my bed and in my nightdress. Postman or delivery drivers often call me dear or darling, so it's not a problem.

I hate wearing make up and think I look worse with make up on.

Quote from: Keaira on June 02, 2012, 02:41:58 AM


You tell me!
For me it was about... 6-8 months I think? When I caught my reflection in the mirror and I didn't see a guy standing there.
And my voice is.. well, my voice. my natural voice is apparently quite passable. No training at all. It's just a lot softer in the morning when I'm half asleep.

Do you want my honest opinion? you have too much designer stubble and your eyebrows are too bushy! if you had laser to take away your beard growth (seen on both of your pictures) and plucked your eyebrows you would look more convincing.

Well at $350 a pop, a family of 5 to feed and working 7 days a week, I'm having to slowly save for the hair removal. Eyebrows I was going to work on tonight actually. But thank you. ^_^

I find that a camera flash actually makes me look worse, so I'm not going to be brave like Keaira and post one of my morning ones up there...I have permanent dark circles under my eyes which grow and shrink but never disappear altogether.

Also, even though all of my dark facial hair was lasered off, there is still a good crop of slow-growing blond hairs that needs to be attended to in the morning.   

Me? Brave? lol. hardly. but thanks ^_^

BTW, I thinned out my eyebrows. ^_^

Quote from: Keaira on June 03, 2012, 12:05:22 AM
Well at $350 a pop, a family of 5 to feed and working 7 days a week, I'm having to slowly save for the hair removal. Eyebrows I was going to work on tonight actually. But thank you. ^_^

I would imagine your not Full Time yet? but we all have to pay for our laser and other treatments and transitioning is expensive. I would have thought laser would be your first port of call even before clothes etc.

Actually I am. And between the fact that I dont have an adams apple, my height and voice, I consistently get gendered correctly outside of work. Which surprised me. At work is a different matter because all the bigots there still remember when I was "That cute Johhny Depp-looking guy who changes molds.".

It all depends on how I'm dressed (or not dressed ) when I wake up. I was lucky that my only facial hair is on my upper lip, I'll get around to zapping it later, but I can't afford it right now. Anyway, I feel that not ever having 5 o'clock shadow plays a part in my passability in the mornings. That, or that my hair is permanently in a high pony-tail which isn't what you'd call masculine.

Even in that groggy state, Keaira, I wouldn't say you looked like a guy. A butch woman, sure. But not a guy.

Thank you.
Of course that photo is a few months old. I'll take one when I get up in a few hours and post it.

Quote from: Keaira on June 03, 2012, 05:28:28 AM
Actually I am. And between the fact that I dont have an adams apple, my height and voice, I consistently get gendered correctly outside of work. Which surprised me. At work is a different matter because all the bigots there still remember when I was "That cute Johhny Depp-looking guy who changes molds.".

I don't have an adams apple either and my voice didn't break either but the first thing I noticed with all of your pictures was the large amount of facial hair you have.

Quote from: ZDR on June 03, 2012, 05:32:31 AM
Even in that groggy state, Keaira, I wouldn't say you looked like a guy. A butch woman, sure. But not a guy.

Sorry but I thought Keaira looked like a regular unshaven guy in the white vest pic, a bit like one of the guys in a band like the Black Crowes!

I'm 5'5, 177lb. Who are the Black Crowes? I've kind of gotten out of touch with mainstream music lately.