Thanks everybody!  I gotta say that it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be.  Having said that, he did say that he thinks it's not of God.  He admitted to having little knowledge on the subject.  He was very understanding, though, and did not condemn.  I told him that I feel that God has had me walk through hardships as a way to teach and mold me by experience.  I suggested that it was perhaps my journey to go through transition to be able to somehow help others like me that believe in God and are trans.  He said he was going to read some material about transsexualism to have a better understanding.  He prayed for me.  He did not say to cast out the feelings but asked God to reveal his purpose for me.  Personally, it was nice to talk to someone about this, but it didn't really move me forward in any way except for the fact that it is seeming to get easier to openly talk about my GID.  He wants to meet again.  I'm not opposed, solely due to the fact that I'm helping him understand.  It could be useful for him to have more open mind about this topic, so future trans peeps don't get the typical Christian response. I'm still 100% commited to seeing a professional about my future, but I feel this meeting happened for a reason.  How is it I always end up helping others?!

Quote from: ConfusedCJ on June 07, 2012, 06:23:27 PM
Thanks everybody!  I gotta say that it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be.  Having said that, he did say that he thinks it's not of God.  He admitted to having little knowledge on the subject.  He was very understanding, though, and did not condemn.  I told him that I feel that God has had me walk through hardships as a way to teach and mold me by experience.  I suggested that it was perhaps my journey to go through transition to be able to somehow help others like me that believe in God and are trans.  He said he was going to read some material about transsexualism to have a better understanding.  He prayed for me.  He did not say to cast out the feelings but asked God to reveal his purpose for me.  Personally, it was nice to talk to someone about this, but it didn't really move me forward in any way except for the fact that it is seeming to get easier to openly talk about my GID.  He wants to meet again.  I'm not opposed, solely due to the fact that I'm helping him understand.  It could be useful for him to have more open mind about this topic, so future trans peeps don't get the typical Christian response. I'm still 100% commited to seeing a professional about my future, but I feel this meeting happened for a reason.  How is it I always end up helping others?!

God Loves you. I would suggest you speak to God about this. Jesus knows you better than any human being does. God gave you these feelings and  has a Will for you as a girl.

God wants you to stay with your wife. She is a good friend to you. I pray for her understanding.

Confused CJ, we are almost on the same path! The only difference between the therapist I saw and that you saw seems to be that mine suggested its possible I may have a demon, but she also said not necessarily, the only thing she seems to agree with so far is that people are born intersexed but beyond that she still feels the rest is against God.

I just talked with another Christian Lady yesterday, and I tested her spirit and asked questions, she agreed that slavery was wrong, that denying interracial marriage was wrong, that denying women rights was wrong, however she had a shocked look on her face when I told her that people are born with chromosomal variances and sex developments. I said I might be XXY and I told her what that was. She immediately asked me if that was suggesting people are born gay, I told her that they were separate things. (However a hormonal wash on the fetus has been suggested as to contribute to a persons orientation)

So she was a fairly good Christian, I think she was just uninformed, as this is a very small town in Texas. So yeah I think also like you i am helping my counselor to see things she did not know about before.

Oh, heck. Are you telling me your therapist has an actual licence and mentions religion and demons in therapy? It's... Legal? Oh, my, this is so messed up. And therapists who pray for you and ask a deity to reveal their purpose to you... Oh, my...

I am... Astonished. I had heard of "Christian therapists" who were not necessarily good and sometimes even abusive, but I was persuaded that of course they weren't allowed a licence for professional practice if they implied religion in their work... I am without words.

I think I'll leave the topic. No offense meant, but the quotes from the bible just killed me.

I'm... I just don't know how to say it. I'm, like, beyond disappointment for that. Licenced religious therapists... where is the world going?

Quote from: ConfusedCJ on June 07, 2012, 06:23:27 PM
Thanks everybody!  I gotta say that it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be.  Having said that, he did say that he thinks it's not of God.  He admitted to having little knowledge on the subject.  He was very understanding, though, and did not condemn.  I told him that I feel that God has had me walk through hardships as a way to teach and mold me by experience.  I suggested that it was perhaps my journey to go through transition to be able to somehow help others like me that believe in God and are trans.  He said he was going to read some material about transsexualism to have a better understanding.  He prayed for me.  He did not say to cast out the feelings but asked God to reveal his purpose for me.  Personally, it was nice to talk to someone about this, but it didn't really move me forward in any way except for the fact that it is seeming to get easier to openly talk about my GID.  He wants to meet again.  I'm not opposed, solely due to the fact that I'm helping him understand.  It could be useful for him to have more open mind about this topic, so future trans peeps don't get the typical Christian response. I'm still 100% commited to seeing a professional about my future, but I feel this meeting happened for a reason.  How is it I always end up helping others?!

I am glad the experience was not bad. I am really glad that he acted in a semi-Christian manner. I was afraid he was going to do something rash. Also, your outlook on helping other Christians is good. We have a few strong Christians here, and it is always nice to have more.

 I'm glad that your councillor behaved like a human being. Hopefully his reading will direct him to a proper understanding of Gender Dysphoria, and perhaps he will become a wonderful ally.

One can pray.

Eh...I seemed to have wandered into the ladies room, please forgive me. I'd just like to say though, one should be very careful when it comes to people who believe in "pray the gay away" "demons" and so on. Some are just ignorant and some will seriously believe you are possessed and do who knows what to get it out. Either way, it can be dangerous mentally and/or physically.

I love most things about America but their obsession with religion goes beyond the pale, their Televangelism is another form of commercial religion selling and it sucks big time! We don't really have anything like that here in Europe and religion is not rammed down your throat like it is in the USA.

Most Christian's I've met over here are a little more articulate and understanding about gender dysphoria.

CJ I think I would tell the therapist that I would see her again after she has got up to speed on TS  and GID. From reputable Medical Texts so that she knows something about what you are discussing.  The alternative is that as you will know more about the subject than her, she will have to take what you say as being the expert opinion and agree with you.

Either that or tell your wife that there are no such things as demons.

Personally I would go with the latter, as it sounds like total disrespect for you as a rational human being.

Karen.

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on June 08, 2012, 05:25:29 AM
I love most things about America but their obsession with religion goes beyond the pale, their Televangelism is another form of commercial religion selling and it sucks big time! We don't really have anything like that here in Europe and religion is not rammed down your throat like it is in the USA.

Most Christian's I've met over here are a little more articulate and understanding about gender dysphoria.

I think the televangelists and the other "bible bangers" are the last product of the KGB psyc ops department before it ceased to exit.

These religious intolerant who are bent into imposing their moral standards in the rest of us are going to single handily achieve what the soviet union could not, the "fall of the American Empire." You can see their effects in the inability of  Congress to pass a budget in a timely fashion

Quote from: peky on June 08, 2012, 09:33:47 AM
I think the televangelists and the other "bible bangers" are the last product of the KGB psyc ops department before it ceased to exit.

These religious intolerant who are bent into imposing their moral standards in the rest of us are going to single handily achieve what the soviet union could not, the "fall of the American Empire." You can see their effects in the inability of  Congress to pass a budget in a timely fashion

Isnt that the truth!!!  damn the bunch of them, grrrrr

I think any therapist who believes in demons shouldn't even be allowed to be a therapist. I'm glad your experience wasn't as negative as you'd feared. This is a difficult subject because religion is such a personal thing. I suspect counsellors who come at it from a Christian perspective are trying to 'save' you from your transsexuality rather than actually trying to help you. I would suggest trying to find one who knows what they're talking about regarding transsexuality.

LOL archaic delusions!

The mind is weak and malleable...

ShawnToShawn, it does look like we are in very similar situations!  It's nice to know there are others that understand the craziness of what has been happening in my life lately!