Quote from: Butterflyhugs on June 13, 2012, 02:09:23 AM
Being outed by being required to walk through a full body scanner that illustrates all the intimate details is an invasion of my privacy.

You always have the option of not going through the scanner.  Then you get pulled aside and patted down.  I believe you have posted about that before.  From experience, I know it's not fun.

I'm of two minds on this.

I don't like the idea of someone being able to see I am trans, no matter what the company says about privacy I'm pretty sure whoever was looking at the scans and saw someone was trans would tell somebody else. That could be other work mates on the sly or there family when they get home and whilst I doubt anything would come of it I don't want to be someone else's discussion.

Having said that Im scared of flying, the security we have in the UK doesn't put me anymore at ease either. So it wouldn't be something I would like but it would make me feel safer. At least then I would know if something was going to go wrong it would be something with the plane and I wasn't about to be held hostage and blown up.

Quote from: Jamie D on June 13, 2012, 01:28:53 AM
It is "silly crap" until some guy takes of his shoes off and tries to blow up the plane.

There is a website, PlaneCrashInfo.com that keeps a datebase of commericial aircraft disasters.  Some of the terrorist actions will make your hair stand on end.

Terrorists, especially the Islamofascists, just don't think about things the same way we in the West do.  They see terrorism through a prism of religious hate and envy, and do not bat an eye to become suicide murders.  It is much like the kamakazi mentality in WWII.

Please don't make this a religious or racist attack.  Interestingly you left out the Crusades and the Inquisition.

Quote from: Jeneva on June 13, 2012, 07:49:09 AM
Please don't make this a religious or racist attack.  Interestingly you left out the Crusades and the Inquisition.

Wow! Really?

Axélle
PS: I travelled, had to,  A LOT after 9/11 in the US, and yes it was a pain in the ass, and still is. But if you HAVE to travel to earn a living... I still like to do it in this life and not some 'higher' place, yet. But then as always YMMV.

Quote from: Axélle on June 13, 2012, 08:10:51 AM
Wow! Really?

Yes, really.  We can't let ourselves slip into us and them.  And that is what the rhetoric was trying to do.  The islamofascists?  The kamikaze?  THEY are the bad guys.....

It isn't just trans-divisiveness I dislike, it is any divisiveness.

Quote from: Jeneva on June 13, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
Yes, really.  We can't let ourselves slip into us and them.  And that is what the rhetoric was trying to do.  The islamofascists?  The kamikaze?  THEY are the bad guys.....

It isn't just trans-divisiveness I dislike, it is any divisiveness.

OK, I see, but please do not ask me to go any place where those divisivnesses hang out.
I do get scared, you know. And some divisiveness, I call it discretion, usually helps me - without advertising it though, um.

Axélle

Quote from: Axélle on June 13, 2012, 10:44:31 AM
OK, I see, but please do not ask me to go any place where those divisivnesses hang out.
I do get scared, you know. And some divisiveness, I call it discretion, usually helps me - without advertising it though, um.

Axélle

But you went exactly where us/them usually goes.  You couldn't even bring yourself to call them people in the above sentence.  When we demonize THEM, then we dehumanize them and can suddenly justify atrocities against them (torture/indefinite detention/etc.). 
Yes there are some Islamic people that are terrorists, but many are not.  Islamofascist is an inflammatory term MEANT to polarize response against a class of people.

There have been many atrocities committed by Christians, but we don't call them Christofascists.  So how can you justify the other term, especially from a moderator?

Isn't this exactly what we struggle against in society?  Being dehumanized, called IT, beaten because we are what we are.  How can any of us support doing the same to any class of people?

I believe in a world of Love and Trust and not of Fear and Hate.

Quote from: Jeneva on June 13, 2012, 07:49:09 AM
Please don't make this a religious or racist attack.  Interestingly you left out the Crusades and the Inquisition.

Thank you for pointing that out.  I was really addressing the "mind set" rather than the religion or ethnicity.

It has to do with the Islamic concept of martyrdom.

"Islamofascist" was meant to differentiate the extremists from mainstream Muslims.

My apologies for offending you.

Let's please return to the topic at hand: "Scanners will display prosthetics and identify transgender travellers."

Thank you.