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Booked for Dr. DiMaggio June 2012

Started by lisakmoore, May 27, 2012, 02:31:10 AM

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lisakmoore

So after lots of debate, I finally decided to go with Dr. DiMaggio.  I'll be having surgery in mid June 2012 (so just a few weeks away).  I'm excited and nervous, but I'm really looking forward to having a face I feel more confident showing off.  If there's interest in before/afters or a journal of how things go, I might put something up.  So yeah, fingers crossed. :)
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starbright

^^Wonderful!! I hope and pray that everyhting is a MAJOR SUCCESS for you, safe travels next month!

I would LOVE a before/after/journal of this journey for you, I am thinking of going to DR. D this fall for my FFS, so that info. would be so greateful and more than appreciated. I am going to Dr. D or Dr. Cardenas, I cannot decide yet, so you may just sway me to Dr. D!!

Thanks so much and best of luck.  ;D
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mementomori

yes let us know im trying to decide between dr d and chettawut , at the moment its looking like dr d because ive spoken to a lot of happy paitents online and see lots of before and afters . ive only spoken to two chettawut patients online but i do love the before and afters on his website
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Raneth

congratulations on choosing a surgeon!  Now you've got most of the work out of the way :P
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lisakmoore

Hey all, thought I'd give an update on how things went with FFS operation with Dr. Di Maggio.

Procedures I had done:
- Hair advancement on the sides
- Forehead reconstruction
- Rhinoplasty
- Medpor cheek implants
- Upper lip lift
- Jaw shave
- Chin reconstruction
- Tracheal shave

I guess my first observation is I went into the surgery not realizing how hard it would be.  The first couple days post-op were very, very uncomfortable and miserable.  Mentally, this was very difficult.  Having done it alone, I will personally never let anyone I love travel to a foreign country for major surgery alone.  It's simply to much.  While in the recovery room, a familiar voice and warm hand would have been massively helpful.  This isn't too say I received poor care, it's just a matter of handling such a huge surgery. 

It's worth noting here that hospitals in the USA vs abroad are different. I knew and expected this, but it's still a little disconcerting.  In most American hospitals, everything is shiny, new, spacious, high tech, and organized.  In Argentina, this is not the case.  Everything is a bit older, clearly worn from use, a little cramped, and there aren't high tech gizmos everywhere.  This is the trade-off you make when saving so much money by having surgery internationally. In my opinion, this had no impact on the quality of the surgery, but I won't lie, I really missed the American standards.

I had some bad luck on my flight from the USA to Argentina and caught a cold.  The day of my surgery I was very stuffed up, but I had no fever, so they went ahead with everything.  I think my recovery has a been a little bit harder as a result (coughing up more nasty stuff and what not), but nothing disastrous.

The surgery itself went relatively  very well.  It took 10hrs (which Dr. DiMaggio said is one of the longest he's done).  Waking up was painful.  They literally wrap your body to the chair, so as they unwrapped me, my joints really hurt.  In particular, the heels of my feet and my elbow joints took several days to regain normal feeling/movement.  This might have been a result of being taller than average too.  Anyways, after surgery I was taken back to my room.  Here they removed the catheter (ouch), Dr. DiMaggio showed me the results in a mirror, then bandaged me up, put ice on my face, and I drifted off.

The next 24 hours were a kind of dark/uncomfortable/scary blur.  There wasn't any dramatic amount of pain, but it was just discomfort.  WiFi did not work, so I had no outside contact.  The only person who I could speak to were the translators in the room.  Around midnight, the first translator left and I was alone for a couple hours till the second translator came in.  During this time alone, I needed to pee for the first time... due to the catheter, this hurt like crazy.  It would continue to hurt to pee for the next day (lessening a little with each pee).  When the second translator arrived, the TV was put on the WB (Warner Bros) channel and I suffered through some of the worst American television I know (Big Bang Theory, Two and Half Men, etc).  During much of this time, I had ice packs over my eyes, that would slowly begin to leak and then roll off my face.  Majority of the time I just wished there was a way to leave the ice on my face and yet still remain semi-upright in bed.  It never worked.

At some point early, early in the morning I managed to change the station to the news, but then this changed to reality TV.  Horrifically, one of the shows I had to sit through was "1000 Worst Ways to Die!"... why the ->-bleeped-<- would they ever allow this in hospital? I was freaking out in my mind.  I also was not drinking any water or accepting ice chips, so the nurses had opened my IV drip up all the way.  This meant I had to pee every 30min or less. 

Anyways, around 7am the first translator returned, I forced down some tea and soup, and by 3:30pm it was time to head back to my apt.  I wasn't sure if I was ready to leave, but mentally staying in the hospital is depressing.  It's much better to be at the apt.  Oh yeah, Dr. DiMaggio stopped by that afternoon and removed the drain from my forehead along with the plugs in my nose and then redid my bandages.  None of this was painful per say, just discomforting.  The only things that ever truly hurt during the recovery were my feet and the incision on my neck from the tracheal shave (sharp stinging).  I had a lot of difficulty with the amount of mucous and blood dripping down my throat, but I just swallowed it all. 

Back at the apartment, things got much easier.  I lay in bed most of the day on my laptop.  My face is SUPER swollen, but I'm told it will be get better over the next week or so.  I have headaches and feel some stinging at the stitches, but nothing truly painful.  I've noticed if I skip my pain meds, I can start to feel more sharp  discomfort though, so I keep taking the meds.  I wish I had purchased more soft foods before my surgery.  The first couple days I took all my meals by straw (protein shakes, instant soup, tea).  Then I moved onto pudding, jello, and yogurt.  And by day 4 post op I was having pasta (real food) for the first time.  I'm not at day 6 post-op and I still can't chew, but so long as just up my meal into very tiny pieces, I can mush it with my tongue and just swallow it.  Fun times.

At this point it's still too soon to see the results of the surgery.  Based on what I can see so far, I feel okay.  Also, seeing some of the other patients here (who are further along in their recoveries), I think their results look very good, so that helps keep me optimistic.  I can't wait to get healed up and head home, but unfortunately I just have to be patient.  So that's it for now.  If you have any questions, feel free to let me know.

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Diane Elizabeth

      Thanks for the report.  I am waiting on hearing from Dr Di to see about surgery.  Not sure if I will use him yet.  I still have to get me a passport in order to go there.   I am hoping to get some work done after the first of the year.
Having you blanket in the wash is like finding your psychiatrist is gone for the weekend!         Linus "Peanuts"
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rachl

Hang in there. I'm reading with interest, too, because I'm considering Dr. Di. I would definitely be bringing a friend with me, though. I couldn't handle being alone and in pain in a foreign country. We're thinking of you; stay connected!
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mementomori

Quote from: lisakmoore on June 20, 2012, 12:39:05 PM
Hey all, thought I'd give an update on how things went with FFS operation with Dr. Di Maggio.

Procedures I had done:
- Hair advancement on the sides
- Forehead reconstruction
- Rhinoplasty
- Medpor cheek implants
- Upper lip lift
- Jaw shave
- Chin reconstruction
- Tracheal shave

I guess my first observation is I went into the surgery not realizing how hard it would be.  The first couple days post-op were very, very uncomfortable and miserable.  Mentally, this was very difficult.  Having done it alone, I will personally never let anyone I love travel to a foreign country for major surgery alone.  It's simply to much.  While in the recovery room, a familiar voice and warm hand would have been massively helpful.  This isn't too say I received poor care, it's just a matter of handling such a huge surgery. 

It's worth noting here that hospitals in the USA vs abroad are different. I knew and expected this, but it's still a little disconcerting.  In most American hospitals, everything is shiny, new, spacious, high tech, and organized.  In Argentina, this is not the case.  Everything is a bit older, clearly worn from use, a little cramped, and there aren't high tech gizmos everywhere.  This is the trade-off you make when saving so much money by having surgery internationally. In my opinion, this had no impact on the quality of the surgery, but I won't lie, I really missed the American standards.

I had some bad luck on my flight from the USA to Argentina and caught a cold.  The day of my surgery I was very stuffed up, but I had no fever, so they went ahead with everything.  I think my recovery has a been a little bit harder as a result (coughing up more nasty stuff and what not), but nothing disastrous.

The surgery itself went relatively  very well.  It took 10hrs (which Dr. DiMaggio said is one of the longest he's done).  Waking up was painful.  They literally wrap your body to the chair, so as they unwrapped me, my joints really hurt.  In particular, the heels of my feet and my elbow joints took several days to regain normal feeling/movement.  This might have been a result of being taller than average too.  Anyways, after surgery I was taken back to my room.  Here they removed the catheter (ouch), Dr. DiMaggio showed me the results in a mirror, then bandaged me up, put ice on my face, and I drifted off.

The next 24 hours were a kind of dark/uncomfortable/scary blur.  There wasn't any dramatic amount of pain, but it was just discomfort.  WiFi did not work, so I had no outside contact.  The only person who I could speak to were the translators in the room.  Around midnight, the first translator left and I was alone for a couple hours till the second translator came in.  During this time alone, I needed to pee for the first time... due to the catheter, this hurt like crazy.  It would continue to hurt to pee for the next day (lessening a little with each pee).  When the second translator arrived, the TV was put on the WB (Warner Bros) channel and I suffered through some of the worst American television I know (Big Bang Theory, Two and Half Men, etc).  During much of this time, I had ice packs over my eyes, that would slowly begin to leak and then roll off my face.  Majority of the time I just wished there was a way to leave the ice on my face and yet still remain semi-upright in bed.  It never worked.

At some point early, early in the morning I managed to change the station to the news, but then this changed to reality TV.  Horrifically, one of the shows I had to sit through was "1000 Worst Ways to Die!"... why the <not allowed> would they ever allow this in hospital? I was freaking out in my mind.  I also was not drinking any water or accepting ice chips, so the nurses had opened my IV drip up all the way.  This meant I had to pee every 30min or less. 

Anyways, around 7am the first translator returned, I forced down some tea and soup, and by 3:30pm it was time to head back to my apt.  I wasn't sure if I was ready to leave, but mentally staying in the hospital is depressing.  It's much better to be at the apt.  Oh yeah, Dr. DiMaggio stopped by that afternoon and removed the drain from my forehead along with the plugs in my nose and then redid my bandages.  None of this was painful per say, just discomforting.  The only things that ever truly hurt during the recovery were my feet and the incision on my neck from the tracheal shave (sharp stinging).  I had a lot of difficulty with the amount of mucous and blood dripping down my throat, but I just swallowed it all. 

Back at the apartment, things got much easier.  I lay in bed most of the day on my laptop.  My face is SUPER swollen, but I'm told it will be get better over the next week or so.  I have headaches and feel some stinging at the stitches, but nothing truly painful.  I've noticed if I skip my pain meds, I can start to feel more sharp  discomfort though, so I keep taking the meds.  I wish I had purchased more soft foods before my surgery.  The first couple days I took all my meals by straw (protein shakes, instant soup, tea).  Then I moved onto pudding, jello, and yogurt.  And by day 4 post op I was having pasta (real food) for the first time.  I'm not at day 6 post-op and I still can't chew, but so long as just up my meal into very tiny pieces, I can mush it with my tongue and just swallow it.  Fun times.

At this point it's still too soon to see the results of the surgery.  Based on what I can see so far, I feel okay.  Also, seeing some of the other patients here (who are further along in their recoveries), I think their results look very good, so that helps keep me optimistic.  I can't wait to get healed up and head home, but unfortunately I just have to be patient.  So that's it for now.  If you have any questions, feel free to let me know.

is this the usual thing with FFS needing a cathaitar to pee? i didnt need one when i have my rhinoplasty but i guess thats a less intense surgery
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lisakmoore

Well I'm now a full week post-op.  The swelling has gone down from "OMG - That's not human" size to "Wow, you're really, really swollen!"... So that's nice.  I've been out in public a couple times now, and while it's pretty embarrassing to be seen in public looking like a swollen, bloody monster, it's nice to get out of the apt.  The pain has not been much of an issue, I just take the pain meds in the morning, afternoon, and then before bed.  I really wish I could shower thoroughly and get all the blood and crusty stuff out of the stitches in my scalp, but I've been told not to touch them.  Eating is getting easier, but I still have 3 sets of stitches in my lower gums (on the sides for jaw shave and one in the middle for the chin), so I try to be very careful about taking small bites and not letting food get into the gums.  My eye sight is still giving me trouble.  I have trouble focusing and I see double images in my right eye sometimes.  I'm told this is due to the swelling and will get better. 

Regarding the catheter used during the operation, I never asked doctors about it, so I can't say if it's standard practice.  I would imagine it is though, as you're completely knocked out for 8+ hours in most cases.  And I usually pee every few hours.
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KylieFramed

I actually sent Dr. Di my pictures and waiting to hear back but i told him I feel I need a trachea shave, hair line advancement on temples, forehead recontour and possibly cheek implants. Im curious if you dont mind divulging how much you spent on your procedures all together?
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lisakmoore

Kylie: By default, Dr. DiMaggio isn't a big fan of tracheal shaves.  When he does perform them, he'll typically place the incision directly over the adam's apple.  Although it was debated if I needed the tracheal shave, I pushed for it and pretty much demanded he put the incision higher up.  Because my adam's apple was pretty minimal he agreed (although it did leave a scar twice as long). 

Regarding the hair advancement, I'm not sure how much Dr. DiMaggio can offer.  I requested as much advancement on the sides/temples as possible, but didn't make any changes to the hairline in the middle.  After the surgery, I'd say the amount of change was pretty minimal.  That's pretty much what I was expecting anyways though.

I get the impression Dr. DiMaggio doesn't do the cheek implants often, but I've had no issues with mine so far.  He placed the incisions directly under my eyes, which I was not expecting.  We didn't discuss the incision point during the consult, but in emails I thought he'd stated the incision would be down through the mouth.  The incisions seem to be healing well though and it's too late to worry about it now.  Considering all the stitches in mouth anyways, maybe it's better this way.  Although the implants were fixed with screws, there is very little pain.  Just a dull ache that comes and goes.  It feels strange massaging my cheeks... the implants feel very hard and sleek.

Overall, my surgery cost $24,200 (USD).  The hair advancement, forehead reconstruction, rhinoplasty, upper lip lift, and jaw/chin shave cost $18k.  The tracheal shave was an additional $2k and the cheek implants cost $4.2k.  Due to rising inflation in Argentina, it's fairly likely the prices will go up though. 

As of today, I'm now 2 weeks post-op.  My face still feels very swollen, but I look semi-normal (just fat-faced).  If I didn't have the incisions under my eyes and on my neck, I could probably go out in public without strange looks.  I still can't move my mouth in the full range of motion, so I can only half smile.  The top of my head, right side of my nose, and chin are still 100% numb.  Pain-wise, I feel some dull aches in certain spots, but I'd say it's only mild at worst.  The most painful problem I have is with the stitches in my gums (which hurt when I eat) and two of my lower teeth that are pushed together.  The teeth issue existed prior to surgery (feeling mild pain due to my lower teeth pushing against each other), but the surgery has really aggravated the issue.  I'm a bit worried when I go home I'll finally need to see an orthodontist.   Tomorrow I will see Dr. DiMaggio and get the stitches taking out of my forehead.  I've been told the mouth stitches will dissolve in a month or two.  So overall, I'm doing well.  I kind of wish I could stay here in Argentina longer so I could heal more before flying home, but I'm definitely ready to get back into familiar settings.  Hopefully over the next few weeks I'll start to see a face in the mirror I like.

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lisakmoore

Well I'm back home in the USA now.  I kind of miss Argentina to be honest.  I think spending 3weeks post-op would have been easier too.

On Friday (the day of my flight home), I went to see Dr. DiMaggio again.  He removed the stitches along my forehead, a couple in my nose, and the stitches on my throat.  We talked about the results and he really showed a lot of concern for the questions I had.  Talking with Dr. DiMaggio is a little intimidating because he has very direct answers, but he seems to really care (which isn't something you get from many doctors).  I said I was unhappy that my nose was still so wide and he said it's still very swollen so it'll reduce in size with time.  I also said I was surprised the incision for the cheek implants were done under the eyelids and he said he prefers that approach because it's cleaner than going through the mouth, so there's less chance of infection.  Also, he noted because I already had so many stitches in my lower gum, having stitches in my upper gum too would be even more cumbersome for me. 

Apparently my forehead incision didn't quite heal as well as it should have, so I was given some cream to apply daily and told to send him pictures in a week to see if it's healed better.  The cream is very thick and makes a huge, ugly mess of my hair.  In addition, the incisions below my eyes are still scabbed and ugly.  So basically I look like scary person when going out in public. In another week or two, hopefully things will be better.  On the plus side, the scar below my nose is barely visible and the scar on my neck is very discrete (just a redish line).  Aside from the visual problems, the only real issue I have is eating.  The pain due to my teeth pushing on each other has not gotten any better. 

Overall, I'd say I'm happy with the results so far and think Dr. DiMaggio was a good choice.
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