Just another copy threat. of Can transmen say the T word.

so
can trans women say the T word..?

in caise you have no clue I mean people using tr**ny to deribe themself
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this is the link of the threat in ftm section for anyone curious.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,122334.0.html

Quote from: dalebert on June 28, 2012, 10:49:44 AM
He gives some warnings at the beginning of this video about triggering and such so please pay attention before continuing to watch.

Never never never, that word is for the clueless rest of the world

Honestly, I don't want to hear it from anyone, cis, trans, bunny or bug. But what especially pisses me off is when some trans twit tells someone that its ok to call us that as a group. They may well see themselves that way, but they have no right to assign that term to those of us who want nothing to do with it.

Do I look like I am coupled to an engine?

If someone wants to self describe that to themselves, more power to them.  But they do a disservice to them selves and the community as a whole.

Oh gawd, what suddenly I'm in a minority now?? 

Frankly I think anyone can say whatever they want and they're either nice or a jerk depending on who they say it in company of. 

Quote from: pretty on July 09, 2012, 11:30:17 AM
Oh gawd, what suddenly I'm in a minority now?? 

Frankly I think anyone can say whatever they want and they're either nice or a jerk depending on who they say it in company of. 

Anyone can say anything they want. The consequences of doing so, however, are out of their control.

And god, we're coming  off like sensitive little bunnies on here

Well I love hot topics.. granted I've been thinking about this very subject of the "t" word.. now, being part "wetback, beaner and spick" oh yeah not to mention part "red man or ingen" I have had to deal with "words" of many kinds in my 30 years on this earth.  Now the question of the "T" term.. well context matters a great deal.  It's not the words but the intent behind them.  Many.. MANY others maybe offened by my use of certain terms to describe myself at the begining of this very post.. that's ok, because I have the right to call myself anything I choose.  When someone else chooses to use any of those mentioned terms.. including now "the T word," in a manner wich is meant to be harmfull that's when I take offense.  These terms will never go away, it's how we handle their use that can change.  I'm not saying to go out and start dropping the "t" bomb, but I am saying as our gender choices become more and more open to the world, everyone needs to understand that context matters!

Quote from: Adam1 on July 09, 2012, 11:34:50 AM


And god, we're coming  off like sensitive little bunnies on here

Just exactly what is wrong with sensitive little bunnies?!  Are you  leporiphobic?

I think the term has enough negative connotation that no matter what context its in, it just sounds bad and I don't think I've ever heard the term used irl where it wasn't in anything  but a negative context and usually meant to ridicule someone, cis or trans.

Well now, - can cis-women say the T word?
I guess depending on the situation they can, and I guess they will, or?

So... if they can... we can. Not so?

Will I call MYSELF a tyranny? Hey, you JOKING, or?!

Will I call some other women that?
Maybe if she wants to hit me with her hand bag? All depends on the situation. A lot.

I once called some guy worse than that - being enough fired up, see. (No need to elaborate)
His dög wanted to bite my ankles

Axélle

dont like it myself, whoever says it. I dont freak out about it but it does make me sad.

I am known for being completely irreverent in all things.  Like Penny Gurl, I'm a great big mix of nationalities (Mexican/African/Caddo American) and there are no limits to the politically incorrect terms I will use in reference to myself with friends.  My partner and I in particular, within the privacy of our playful bantor, have, will and do call each other just about every politically incorrect term that you can imagine... and we do it in all playfulness... sometimes it's almost like foreplay to us.  As most people in my life don't know about my transition 14 years ago, such terms as "the 'T' word" never come up outside of playful teasing between my spouse and me.  I guess it's all about context... playful teasing is always welcome and fun; people who know me know that.  Hateful slurs?  That's just never okay.  I will beat an [n word] down!  (Kidding!)

Quote from: Natkat on July 09, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
Just another copy threat. of Can transmen say the T word.

so
can trans women say the T word..?

in caise you have no clue I mean people using tr**ny to deribe themself

I suppose this would be analogous to people of African decent using the word "n-gga" or "n-gger"? As this has become common place nowadays in many environments. 30 years ago, we would never consider using this word as it is used today.

I personally tend to avoid the T-word... unless I'm using it with friends in a humorous/derogatory manner on purpose... which is rare.

Quote from: JennX on July 09, 2012, 12:11:42 PM
I suppose this would be analogous to people of African decent using the word "n-gga" or "n-gger"? As this has become common place nowadays in many environments. 30 years ago, we would never consider using this word as it is used today.

I personally tend to avoid the T-word... unless I'm using it with friends in a humorous/derogatory manner on purpose... which is rare.

I use the n word and I'm not black. That word is now more to do with socioeconomics and the racial implications that it has.

In other words, if you grew up on the streets you would use it,but if your a little princess who grew up on the upper east side or long island you wouldn't lest you want to the sh*slapped out of you.

Quote from: Adam1 on July 09, 2012, 12:16:33 PM
I use the n word and I'm not black. That word is now more to do with socioeconomics and the racial implications that it has.

In other words, if you grew up on the streets you would use it,but if your a little princess who grew up on the upper east side or long island you wouldn't lest you want to the sh*slapped out of you.

If this was 1970, I'd agree with you. Time changes things. Today many TV commercials, PG movies, songs, etc. use the N-word used in similar context. Let alone friends using it out loud in public.

I think time has drastically changed the meaning, intent, and who and who can't use the word. I think the T-word is what the N-word was 30 years ago. We'll see where it ends up.

I happen to be photographing a wedding a few weeks ago where all the cg's there were using every slur and term ever used to describe to a woman to call eachother... but it was a bunch of girls getting ready in private... once again CONTEXT matters. Not a one uttered any of the trash talk later, it wouldn't be proper.  But in that case it was all in good fun.. and even prevented a few tears and smeared make up.

If I hear someone say that, I do feel kinda awkward. Instead of getting angry though I try to explain to them why it is wrong to say stuff like that. Just like I try to do when people say 'that's gay' or along those lines.

Even if I know they won't take it to heart and probably still say things like that after I can at least say I tried.

I'm not especially bothered by it, but I'm certainly aware of the sort of images it conjures for most people.

It's more  than 

I don't like it personally, but have no problem with other trans people using it. Other minority groups have tried to reclaim derogatory terms, trans people can do it too.

I feel it depends on the way it is used. Sometimes I will use it on myself in a light manner. It kinda removes the "power" of the word. Granted if anyone uses it in the right way it will still hurt some...I personally can't stand the "I" word...