I have an appointment with a gyno to discuss hysterectomy and such, and see when and what we'll be doing in the future.

I was wondering; Your personal opinion.

Would you get a full-hysto or partial-hysto(keep ovaries) and why?

Me:

I have NO idea. A complete hysto would be awesome, all that stuff would be out and away. No need to ever worry about maybe getting a cyst or any complication.

But I keep thinking, what if something happens to my thyroid again?? The thyroid for those of you that don't know regulates hormones in your body. I had half my thyroid taken out, and they almost had to take the whole thing out but I got lucky. If my whole thyroid had been taken out, I would have been on a ->-bleeped-<- load of pills and adding hrt in there, would have just destroyed my system more. So taking t wouldn't be an option anymore if lets say something else happens to whats left of my thyroid and If that ever happens and I've had a full hysto? I'd have no more hormones(well I mean estrogen and t) and that can bring up HUGE complications. And there would be no way in hell, I would ever inject female hormones in me.

I don't know....*headache* Partial-hysto is a safe bet. Anything happens, I won't need to inject any hormones in me. I can just get off t safely and that's it. Complete hysto means I don't have to worry about getting a cyst down there. Btw I'm 18 and I've already been operated for cysts, 3 times. So that's a huge problem with me. I was born with a cyst, I'm apparently prone to cysts and all that.

Do i even make sense? Probably not, I can't understand myself v__v
If you can understand everything I'm saying, you're amazing.

I would keep my ovaries just incase I had to go off T, so I would still have hormones.
Plus, I think the less surgery the better. If an organ doesn't have to be removed it shouldn't be.

Personally if I'm not getting periods then I can forget those organs are there.  I've talked to my doctor about endometrial ablation.  They destroy the lining of your uterus in a quick out patient procedure. Nothing is removed. With the ablation it will greatly reduce or completely eliminate periods. My doctor said about 40% of her patients never got a period again. Various web sites say it's permanent, but actually in young people the uterus can heal and regrow eventually.  She's only comfortable doing it after I try depo and IUD first. If those don't work for me then she will do ablation until I need a hysto.

I would get a full hysto.  I don't ever plan to go off T and I only have one ovary anyway.

I would get a full hysto done.  I plan on having bottom surgery in the future and there's no need to keep those wrong organs.  I plan on being on T for the rest of my life when I start.  I don't need complications with them when I start T  My ovaries and uterus should have never been there to begin with.

So yeah full hysto for me.

I want everything gone.  Uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, cervix.  Why?  Because those parts have no business being there.  If a v-nectomy would be possible at that time, I'd have it closed off as well.

I would get a full hysto so I never have to go to the gyno again,(if I can ever bring myself to go there for the first visit) and not have to worry about getting any cyst any other complications.

The only problem with the full is the lack of hormones. But I've heard of people not doing any HRT after a full hysto. My aunt had one when she was in her 20's. Never been on HRT a day in her life and she's 75 right now. Everyone's different I guess. But guys who choose not to stay on T after getting a full hysto could always "test the waters" so to speak and keep having their levels checked. I'm a total believer that nutrition and natural supplements can totally help as well. I mean there is evidence to show that women who reach menopause or have full hystos benefit from the natural stuff and can avoid HRT. So I think there are options even if you don't want to be on T for the rest of your life. If you DO want to be on T the rest of your life and have a full hysto you might actually have to supplement with some estrogen. Even men (especially as they age) have a small amount of estrogen.

And as far as stuff causing problems. That potential is there as well. When things go "defunct" (like stop working because you're taking T or because you naturally have a lot of T or because stuff wasn't 100% from word go like in my case) they have a tendency to cause problems. So it's something you have to continually keep an eye on.

Either way, there's positives and negatives to each choice. I'd love to have all this defunct female crap taken out of me before it causes a serious problem.

full for me. had a cyst when i was 11 and don't want to risk anything
plus, the idea of them is just annoying 
i might consider harvesting eggs if they're sill viable though. the prob won't be though, since I'll have been on 2 for 4 yrs by the time im an adult

I second Andy.  Want everything out and not because of not wanting to go to a gyno again, etc. - but because I'm a man and don't want or need female reproductive organs, glands, etc. 

I want it all gone, mainly because when I think about those organs I get dysphoric but also because it could prevent further surgery. My mum had hysto but kept her ovaries but a year later she got a large cyst on one them so had to have another surgery to remove her ovaries and as bad luck would have it she got a incisional hernia and had to have that operated on last sunday.

Hopefully it wont be long till I get it done, i've already had the funding approved and had an appointment last thurs to confirm where I want to go 

Quote from: Kreuzfidel on August 05, 2012, 05:27:21 AM
I second Andy.  Want everything out and not because of not wanting to go to a gyno again, etc. - but because I'm a man and don't want or need female reproductive organs, glands, etc.

Yep, this.
I've never gone to a gyno before though and never really plan to.

im pretty sure I would like it all gone, but havent checked it up enough to be 100%


first of all I am not planning on going off T, I feel horrible just being a few days late for T or getting told my T level is too low, and stuff, and generally been better since I started T so I dont think it would be likely that I would go off.


also I think its not posible for me to change my gendermarked unless I do the full surgery, and sure I want my gender marked changed..


Manly I want my ovary removed since we got some cancer risk on my moms side of the famely.

Full.  I wanted every last bit of every last part gone.  I don't plan to go off T ever. I know several cis men who are on Androgel also, so it's not unheard of for many men to take T later in life.
Since ovarian cancer is a silent disease even in people with normal female hormone levels, who knows how much more silent it will be in someone who doesn't cycle?  I am NOT saying that trans guys are more prone to cancer.  That has never been proven.  Just that if your body isn't doing what it was designed to do every month then you may not have signs that someone whose body does does.  If that makes sense.
Just as if I were MTF, if I couldn't afford full lower surgery I'd definitely opt to remove my nuts.

Jay

There is one other small bit of information that my last doctor told me about and that is there is an increase for hernia after a full hysto. The space, although small, that the organs occupy is empty of course. Over time the body should compensate for the empty space but in some individuals a hernia results when remaining organs prolapse. Just one more thing to be aware of. I would imagine if my doctor said something about it most would, but who knows.

Wow all of you bring up good points.

I'm leaning a bit more towards a full hysto right now.
For the simple fact that  just like everyone said, I want it all out!

I hope the doctor I'm seeing isn't an ->-bleeped-<- and can seriously help me out on this.
I have no idea if he's seen a trans patient before.

Choosing hormones was easy, picking top surgery is easy as pie, but geez picking what kind of hysto is hard.
There's a LOT of factors, risks, and all that to keep in mind and think about.

Thanks for all your opinions!
I have a lot of thinking to do

I don't want a full hysto. I want the option of going off T at some point.

But I need bottom surgery, and I don't think that's compatible with a partial hysto.

I want a full hyster as I have no use for any of those parts and they can only cause me problems in the future.  Every period I have ever had has been a problem for me in some way.  No guy ever has under controlable blood flowing out down there.  Tampons were my friend as I could forget about the blood when I had one in.

I will be having a full hysterectomy in a little over 7 weeks! I can't wait    I've never been to a gynaecologist (apart from my hysto consult - and even then everything was external at my request) or had any sort of pap test and much like a couple of the other guys above - I'm a man, I don't need female reproductive organs, I don't want them and I'm not willing to have the necessary checks to ensure they're not going to kill me.. It really was a no-brainer for me!

I mean with a partial, if I kept my ovaries - my T dose still has to overcome my natural production, they still atrophy as they're not doing what they're made to and if they leave the cervix intact well one still has to have those checks to ensure no cancer etc... I know it's not "necessary" surgery per se but for my health and my transition (which let's face it, no two people's are the same!) it is essential.


Why would I risk getting sick when I have the option not to. Plus once I change my birth certificate to say male - how would I go trying to get medicare or my health insurance fund to accept a claim for surgery or treatment relating to my ovaries    My life is complicated enough without adding to it voluntarily right!

Quote from: Aussie Jay on August 07, 2012, 09:27:23 PM
Plus once I change my birth certificate to say male - how would I go trying to get medicare or my health insurance fund to accept a claim for surgery or treatment relating to my ovaries 

I don't know the specifics in Australia, but it is possible.  I know guys who've done it.