What are the more open-minded/liberal neighborhoods? any help is appreciated thanks .

I visit the Castro on a regular basis and it's fairly open minded there. I'm really not so sure about other areas.

Quote from: DonnaTroy on August 15, 2012, 10:55:12 AM
What are the more open-minded/liberal neighborhoods? any help is appreciated thanks .

My girlfriend and I travel throughout the Bay Area (Of course we are "read" as two women) and never experience any problems, not even a dirty look.  The Castro is the "gay male neighborhood" while Bernal Heights is somewhat of a "Lesbian Mecca." There are areas of the city with high Asian populations such as "the Avenues" and Hunter's Point is largely African-American. When I moved to San Francisco, I found a flat in Twin Peaks which overlooks The Castro, in the geographic center of the city, it is really nice but expensive. The Mission is really cool too. The Tenderloin should be avoided.


To answer your question, all areas are relatively open-minded but I understand that one might encounter a gay basher anywhere especially at gay festivals such as the defunct Castroween or even at Pride.

QuoteTo answer your question, all areas are relatively open-minded but I understand that one might encounter a gay basher anywhere especially at gay festivals such as the defunct Castroween or even at Pride.

I don't plan to go to those type of events, so with that in mind can i avoid a "gay basher"....though i'm straight mostly i don't think it makes much a difference to them.

Quote from: DonnaTroy on August 15, 2012, 11:29:11 AM
I don't plan to go to those type of events, so with that in mind can i avoid a "gay basher"....though i'm straight mostly i don't think it makes much a difference to them.

I was looking at your avatar and wondering what you are concerned that people need to be open to.  Anyway, you will love it here regardless of where you live.

Look at Sausalito also.  It's a bit more costly and awful artsy, but you couldn't ask for a more accepting place.  Plus it's a 15 minute ferry ride to the city or a 10 minute drive over the golden gate.  But you should avoid Marin City (just under the freeway on the north side of Sausalito).

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on August 15, 2012, 11:40:56 AM
I was looking at your avatar and wondering what you are concerned that people need to be open to.  Anyway, you will love it here regardless of where you live.

I agree LOL. So young and beautiful you'll do fine in any big city, Donna.

Quote from: kathy b on August 15, 2012, 06:59:46 PM
Look at Sausalito also.  It's a bit more costly and awful artsy, but you couldn't ask for a more accepting place.  Plus it's a 15 minute ferry ride to the city or a 10 minute drive over the golden gate.  But you should avoid Marin City (just under the freeway on the north side of Sausalito).

We spent last Sunday in Sausalito. Gorgeous!  It used to be the Marin version of The Castro but no longer very gay...although my girlfriend and I were given a smiling thumbs up for walking hand in hand by a Lesbian appearing parking enforcement lady. 

This time of year is especially nice although it gets brutally hot in the suburbs. Last week I was in Livermore for electro and it was 104F.

you just look like any other young pretty woman , you could go to anywhere and the world where they hate gays and transgenders etc and still be ok because you dont like  like you were ever physically male anyway o.O

Thanks for the help and the compliments too hehe .

My experience has been that as a woman I can find acceptance pretty much anywhere though I try to avoid groups of people who are better at "reading" trans women.  Those groups who are better at reading trans women are often thought of as "liberal" but liberal means different things to different people.  I have found that people tend to pick and choose their causes and I have found that minorities are often just as prejudiced towards other minorities, if not more so.

I visited San Francisco and I liked it.  I would love to live there.  The weather is cooler than I would have thought.  Fresh produce is affordable.  It seems like a very clean place to me though I am mostly familiar with the Haight Ashbury district and surrounding areas.  I was a little freaked out, worrying that people would read me there.  There were a couple of guys who seemed gay working in a shoe store and they might have read me.  Personally I try to avoid GLBT people who are good at reading people they don't really understand or appreciate.  I do great with pretty much anyone else.

If you are looking for acceptance outside of yourself you will probably go wanting, look inside of yourself.

Thanks Noey for your insights and honesty.

On the face of it, Donna  is a beautiful young lady and everything everyone said, including me, is true. She should have no problems anywhere the world. That said, in areas such as San Francisco and Bangkok, the possibility of "getting read" is much higher than in less trans aware areas. And sometimes people pick up on non-visual cues. That said, the great thing about the Bay Area is that even if one gets read as TS, no one really cares.