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Crying, coughing, clearing throat with a female / woman's voice...

Started by AbraCadabra, August 19, 2012, 11:51:15 AM

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AbraCadabra

Well, I was inspired by the guys asking a similar question.
I just enlarged some on it, as it all seems to come via the same pathway, um.

Clearing one's throat like a lumberjack will not all that easily be overlooked – or will it?

Even sobbing – such a female staple to get (mostly?) what we want, just HAS TO reach the absolute highest registers... without giving away the 'game' and to be accused of being just a manipulative bitch, or?

I'm mostly doing just fine with those nonverbal expressions - though NOT always which, after all, could be one DEAD giveaway about our status/history.

How about you?

Axélle
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Kelly J. P.

 I don't really get that issue. My non-verbal expressions are pitched properly, as far as I can tell.

... What I find more stimulating is how you suggest sobbing is a "female staple to get what we want..." I think that's, well, terrible. I cry when I am hurting, and I would never use my crying-powers for evil! It's terrible to think that there are people that actually use that aspect of their humanity to emotionally blackmail people, and I take issue with them.

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AbraCadabra

Quote from: Kelly J. P. on August 19, 2012, 01:08:25 PM
I don't really get that issue. My non-verbal expressions are pitched properly, as far as I can tell.

... What I find more stimulating is how you suggest sobbing is a "female staple to get what we want..." I think that's, well, terrible. I cry when I am hurting, and I would never use my crying-powers for evil! It's terrible to think that there are people that actually use that aspect of their humanity to emotionally blackmail people, and I take issue with them.

Well sweetie... it takes all sorts, now doesn't it?

Meaning that depending on our mood or emo state we might just do that... to get what we want.
Not necessarily a Merc SKL, but just saying, eh? :)

Axélle
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Kelly J. P. on August 19, 2012, 01:08:25 PM
I don't really get that issue. My non-verbal expressions are pitched properly, as far as I can tell.

... What I find more stimulating is how you suggest sobbing is a "female staple to get what we want..." I think that's, well, terrible. I cry when I am hurting, and I would never use my crying-powers for evil! It's terrible to think that there are people that actually use that aspect of their humanity to emotionally blackmail people, and I take issue with them.

But regardless of how you feel about them, they are there...and there are those who will dismiss all tears of a woman because of suspicions about manipulation. There's even an Eagles song (Lyin' Eyes) about a woman's wiles..."City girls just seem to find out early, how to open doors with just a smile"...

But, I understand what Axélle is saying...if we cry, but cry with a male "voice", very few people will offer their shoulder when it's needed most. "Pull yourself together, man!", and all that. When one is crying, you don't really pay attention to the sound(s), you just do it...and if your throat etc is manly, you won't sound like you visually present.


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A

All I can say is... Try. If you can speak in that pitch, you should be able to cough and clear your throat in the same pitch. Try in the shower. Everything voice related tends to be easier there. Once you get the feeling of it by doing it once or twice, it should be easy.

Because, well. I noticed, clearing your throat, be it with an "ahem" or a cough, generally clears the very area of pitch you made that sound in. I've been having annoying voice issues (specialist in two weeks!) and often my whole upper register (the kind I would mostly use to cry, moan, sigh or sing a rather high-pitched song) gets locked away from me. Pretty much all my voice can be affected, but rarely the whole voice at once, and the "soprano range" so to say is the most favoured victim.

It's rare, but when I manage to "cure" it, it's by making an exceptionally high-pitched cough or such, removing that insidious something that was blocking my vocal cords.

The bottom line - if you speak in a woman's voice, your coughs and throat clearings should sound that way, because that's the only way you'll effectively clear that area of your voice. It should come naturally, eventually.

As for crying... It's harder, I'll admit, because it's a mostly involuntary action, and for many, a relatively rare activity. But once again, once you get the feeling, it's easy. No, rather, it becomes the only way you cry in, leaving you wondering how and why you could ever have sounded so silly when you cried. My cries are pretty high-pitched, and even when my higher pitches are unavailable, it doesn't come out boyish, it comes out mute.

I won't comment on the morality of your crying habits. ^^'
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sarreb

What about laughing? I noticed that I have a lot of trouble laughing at the higher pitch, and usually try to silently laugh, but every now and then something hilarious happens and the laugh is so much deeper.
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A

I think that's the hardest of them. But like the others, it can be done. The best I can suggest is to watch something hilarious alone at home and try, try, try. Eventually you get it and you rarely or never slip up again.
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Julie Wilson

Quote from: sarreb on August 19, 2012, 01:54:37 PM
What about laughing? I noticed that I have a lot of trouble laughing at the higher pitch, and usually try to silently laugh, but every now and then something hilarious happens and the laugh is so much deeper.

This, absolutely this.

Tell you what Axelle, if you teach me how to laugh with a female voice I will teach you how to do all that other stuff ^_^ .

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=107851.0

For coughing and sneezing, clearing of throat just keep your voice up in your head (or higher) and as far away from your lungs as possible. (Keep it out of your chest, rather up in your head).
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AbraCadabra

Quote from: Noey Noonesson on August 19, 2012, 04:54:02 PM
This, absolutely this.

Tell you what Axelle, if you teach me how to laugh with a female voice I will teach you how to do all that other stuff ^_^ .

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Oh wow, thanks for all the replies.

Some good stuff there is :)

OK, about laughing... I'm sitting here and giggle in my, hum -voice- and I truly wonder HOW it happened to be there first thing, quite high pitched and giggly, long before my 'femme' voice happened.

My one (or was it two) time only voice training visit(s) lady, had immediately commented that this was very femme and would need no work... lucky me, I guess.

Now... I think there is some psychology to all this? Maybe - maybe not.

Maybe it was one of those repressed 'unspeakable' things if doing in male-guise - it would have blown the lid of my situation sky high (raving QUEEN, eish!)... so... we learn to repress it. If it is there in the first place!?

For me it was simply a case of "letting go" and it feels most happy and beautiful when finally I can explode in silly giggly laughter.

Not sure that makes sense to all, but there you are :)

So.... what is Noey going to teach me in return now, I wonder? ...

Axélle
PS: oh, coughing and clearing throat is still iffy, and when I cry (on my own - only, mostly) I noticed something similar as what's happening with my laughing.
So... no need at all to get concerned about the 'manipulatory' aspect of it.
Well, not as yet... as men do need a little help at times, to move there asses, hum :)
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Julie Wilson

Cough from the roof of your mouth and clear your throat through your sinuses.  Sneezing is the easiest, sneeze from the top of your head or from between your eyes and your nose.
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AbraCadabra

Quote from: Noey Noonesson on August 20, 2012, 02:18:42 AM
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... sneeze from the top of your head or from between your ... eyes and your nose.

Gosh, why do I think the worst, i.e. from between your... well you know then! :)

He-he,
Axélle
PS: and how to clear our CHEST?! Surely not between our EYES? Eh? ::)
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AbraCadabra

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