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Started by A, September 16, 2011, 03:14:12 PM

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cynthialee

So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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guapa

I think I need to find the translation for spearmint into Spanish and pop into my local herbal store tomorrow :)
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Julie Wilson

If Spearmint tea really worked there would be warnings on the box and it would probably become a controlled substance.

An ineffectively low dosage of medically prescribed anti-androgens would  be more effective than the tea. O_O   Maybe you really have to believe in it for it to work but I tried these sorts of things and I recommend finding a way to be on anti-androgens and estrogen rather than pioneering transition through herbs.
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cynthialee

Siberian women have been using it to comabt hirsuitism for centuries. So some scientists looked into the thing and found out it wasn't an old wives tale. There have been some links provided by the posters on this thread that back these claims up with science.
No one on this thread is making any money in the spearmint trade. So it isn't like we have vested interest in getting people to buy spearmint.

also
In my opinion it is hard to argue with results. A number of us who have tried it report good results.
Also working on hair reduction is something any trans woman can do at any time without raising red flags like anti androgens can and do. If you are pre HRT and pre full time you can still work on the body hair and facial hair. Drinking tea also will not raise any red flags with family or room mates. It is just tea after all.
;)
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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kathy bottoms

Besides me, did anyone else ever use over-the-counter Cemetidine (Tagamet)?  I was that deserate for a while, but the large doses needed for the Antiandrogen effect caused pretty severe testicle, joint and bone pain from time to time.  Had some interesting results, but had to quit because of the pain.  I now only take it for stomach acid relief as needed.  All the herbal meds caused other problems.

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Rita

Ya know what if you have high blood pressure you can just say you want to take spirol even though you understand the "risks" of feminization. 

It is a pretty potent high blood pressure medication,  knocked me straight off my old HBP meds within the first 2 days. (I monitored it for a month)
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cynthialee

The doseage for blood preasure regulation and the doseage for antiandrogen effects are not the same dose.
Taking the standard dose for blood preasure issues will be unlikely to be very effective as an AA.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Rita

Quote from: cynthialee on September 10, 2012, 12:28:13 PM
The doseage for blood preasure regulation and the doseage for antiandrogen effects are not the same dose.
Taking the standard dose for blood preasure issues will be unlikely to be very effective as an AA.

Might not be as effective, but perhaps more effective than tea.  Or if you use both together could be even more potent!

I have read many posts online before transitioning of guys taking small dosages of spirol and complaining about some feminizing.
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Nite__Sky

I've been drinking the spearmint tea for a few days.  I have noticed a reduction in sex drive.  Thank god!  Driving my husband crazy.  I'm 50, so when my sex drive suddenly went way high the past year it was a big surprise.  I probably have very high testosterone for a woman.  I have had it tested in the past and it was high, but my sex drive was not as high as now.  I'm trying the spearmint tea for that as well as the hirsuitism.  The hair on my arms had gotten darker in the last 5 years. I also have some chin hairs I'd like to soften up. 

Thanks for the updates and other comments.  I just found this thread and I was afraid it was all over.  It's really interesting to learn about people who are from a different life experience than me.  I hope you all have success with this and get what makes you happy. 

As for the person who is telling us not to drink the tea and to take drugs.  Give me a break.  I'll try the tea first and then if nothing natural works, I still probably won't take drugs that have terrible side effect that are much worse than high sex drive and too much body hair.  So maybe it won't work for everyone, but it has for some and maybe it will work for me too.  What's it going to hurt to drink some mint tea that tastes good and won't make me have terrible side effects?

Thanks everyone!
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omiwaaa

Hi all!

I've found this information a week ago and I was pretty interested. Here I can buy boxes of spearmint tea at Walmart at 80 cents for a 26 bags box. So I started last week and I realised that all body hair was growing slower, especially facial hair, so I'll keep trying it more time, I'm very very excited.  :)
I've found though that the original study used a heaped teaspoon (5g) of spearmint for each 250 ml cup, so I'm trying to put more bags per tea and see the effects this week. I'll divide it into drinking three cups a day, of 3 bags (3g) each one and see what happens.
I can't see any strong effects on sex drive yet, more or less the same, but maybe this week I would see some better results, I guess.

Cheers ladies
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cynthialee

I use bulk spearmint I get from a local herbal supply store. Much cheeper than going with bags. I buy it a pound at a time.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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innainka

Ahhhh, hmmmmm, in theory all the known antyandrogen compounds in natural food do some to regulate T and E, however, in such insignificant amounts that hoping for changes due to ingesting soy milk, mint, etc is sort of useless.
However there are concentrated forms of same compounds sold as food suplements in any vitamin shop, try using those as they have 1000X potency over food contained stuff.
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A

Soy doesn't do much.

Spearmint tea, however, is proven by science to help with hirsutism in women if drunk in large amounts daily for weeks.
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Tori

This thread deserves a bump as it is the most extensive Spearmint Tea thread I have found here.

My wife and I are ready to take the HRTea challenge.

Are people still seeing good results?


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cynthialee

Quote from: Tori on November 23, 2013, 06:50:14 PM
This thread deserves a bump as it is the most extensive Spearmint Tea thread I have found here.

My wife and I are ready to take the HRTea challenge.

Are people still seeing good results?
I fell off the HRTea and my body hair is showing the results...
Now it is not back to where it was when I started to drink the tea faithfully.
The spearmint really makes a difference when I stick with it. But I really do not like the flavor of mint, so it is easy for me to stop.

But there is no doubt in my mind that spearmint is a very good tool in the tool-chest of the TS woman. It is effective and there are other reasons to drink tea that bring health and wellness.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Tori

Thank you for the update Cynthia as you were one of the people who has inspired me to give it a try.

I am a bit less skeptical now, since not only did it work for you, it stopped working when you stopped.

This may be good for hair and a control over sex drive. Need a boost? Take a HRTea break!


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cynthialee

When I first discovered the properties of the plant it came at a much needed time for me. I was extremely distraught over my body hair and estradiol wasn't working fast enough. The spearmint really helped to give a result when it was most needed. It really did only take about 6 weeks to notice the changes and at 3 months the changes I attribute to the tea were down right phenomenal to me.
Now that I am further along in transition, I can have a scruff on my face and thicker arm hair and folks still call me ma'am. :D  So I am not so quik to drink down a tea I don't like that much. Well if I mix in some Earl Grey it isn't too bad, but then I need honey and lemon...
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Ms Grace

I drank Spearmint tea for several months prior to starting HRT. It may have had some effect but it was negligible compared to when I started HRT. It may be effective for hirsutism in women but then it's also not trying to counter the T producing powerhouse of the testicles either!

I was also drinking Saw Palmetto tea and tried Chaste Tea (possibly one of the most disgusting concoctions I've ever tasted), all with negligible effect both physically which was also confirmed in my blood tests. They did probably reduce my sex drive which in and of itself made me feel better so that's something I suppose.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Oriah

Spearmint tea is slightly effective as an antiandrogen, but there is evidence that large doses can cause oxidative stress to the hypothalamus.  It can be a good supplement to an antiandrogen regimen, but as a stand alone in megadoses it could have negative effects.
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tesseract49

Wow! This looks very interesting. I am definietely going to try it. Even if it is just a weak anti-androgen, at least it will slow down my facial hair growth. :)
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