Quote from: DianaP on September 12, 2012, 03:45:19 PM
I don't know about all of you, but I'm not sticking it to the man. I'm sticking it to the men: the men who want me to be one of them.

LOL! That is so, so funny...and TRUE. Men who tried their damnedest to make me one of them...and sticking it to the women who wanted those kinds of men...

How about this one "Dear you need to go to a men's confrontational support group"   

Quote from: edderkopp on September 12, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
My grandpa asked me once "what kind of woman would date you?" I asked him what he meant, and he said "Well, you know, lesbians? Other transgenders?" I actually answered him honestly, saying that I wouldn't want to date a lesbian, and they wouldn't want to date me once I am far enough in transition. But I said that I would date a transgender woman, because, well, they're women just like any other. Now he thinks I am a straight woman.

And a lot of people, in general, assume that as a transgender person I will only ever be able to date other transgender people. Apparently, no cisgender person would ever be interested in me. And the only friends I will ever have are other transgender people, too. It is very annoying.

I find the lesbian question interesting. I try to be active in minority communities, and I've met a number of lesbians who are interested in both lesbians and transmen. I think that's okay, but it's obviously not my decision to make. The reasons seem to vary, the most common being the shared experience and the idea that transmen are less aggressive and intense than cismen. My personal opinion though is that a lesbian dating an ftm would have to be honest about the performative aspects, the fact that dating a transman is not a lesbian activity.

To stay on topic, one of the lines I've heard a couple times now is "well we know you're not really a man, so we don't have to change your information in the computer." This by people who are otherwise friendly and seem accepting.

Quote from: Felix on September 14, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
I find the lesbian question interesting. I try to be active in minority communities, and I've met a number of lesbians who are interested in both lesbians and transmen. I think that's okay, but it's obviously not my decision to make. The reasons seem to vary, the most common being the shared experience and the idea that transmen are less aggressive and intense than cismen. My personal opinion though is that a lesbian dating an ftm would have to be honest about the performative aspects, the fact that dating a transman is not a lesbian activity.

Many women identify as lesbian who mean "I'm only occasionally attracted to men" - in which case it doesn't seem incongruous for them to be attracted to trans men. Sometimes it's a fuzzy line, and in the end it's really defined by simply who you find attractive at the time. "lesbian activity" made me laugh, for some reason - sounds like a sporting event .

Quote from: Padma on September 15, 2012, 03:57:42 AM
Many women identify as lesbian who mean "I'm only occasionally attracted to men" - in which case it doesn't seem incongruous for them to be attracted to trans men. Sometimes it's a fuzzy line, and in the end it's really defined by simply who you find attractive at the time. "lesbian activity" made me laugh, for some reason - sounds like a sporting event .

Sounds like a potential Olympic Sport. But I suspect it may already be so Ooops

Quote from: Cindy James on September 15, 2012, 04:09:14 AM
Sounds like a potential Olympic Sport. But I suspect it may already be so Ooops

Olympians are hot.

Quote from: Felix on September 15, 2012, 07:48:29 PM
Olympians are hot.

I refrained from posting pics of the female olympians in the "Who do you find sexy" thread during the games because I couldn't make up my mind.  Some of the Beach Volleyball players have crazy-hot bodies!  And the special bond of paired female teammates - ooooooh the fantasy material!!!   Excuse me a minute...

Quote from: Felix on September 15, 2012, 07:48:29 PM
Olympians are hot.

Oh yeah - especially Demeter, Aphrodite, and Hermes, phwoaar! And Dionysus is drop-dead gorgeous... 

Quote from: Padma on September 15, 2012, 11:43:23 PM
Oh yeah - especially Demeter, Aphrodite, and Hermes, phwoaar! And Dionysus is drop-dead gorgeous... 

Does that make you Geek or Greek?

Quote from: Cindy James on September 16, 2012, 02:26:34 AM
Does that make you Geek or Greek?

Summer lovin', happened so fast...

I came out as trans to an old friend from way back in elementary school. I neglected to mention anything about sexual orientation. She responded in a strange, disjointed, and rambling message...in which she talked about understanding my attraction to women and wanting to transition because of it.

I may have said this before, but I always like the people who say that trans men are lesbians who can't accept themselves. Not sure what that makes me.

Oh, and the time an otherwise decent guy I knew in school saw me walking down the street and felt compelled to tell me that I looked like a real guy (or that he'd read me as a real guy) and that if he hadn't known otherwise, he would never have guessed. I said without thinking, "I AM a real guy." I don't usually do that unless I feel that I'm being challenged. Inside, I have a Pinocchio complex a mile wide.

When I told my general doctor I was transgendered he told me that transgender feelings were very complicated and I shouldn't come to a conclusion like that before I saw a therapist.

Really?

A therapist will know better than I do how I identify?

Quote from: agfrommd on September 16, 2012, 06:27:34 AM
When I told my general doctor I was transgendered he told me that transgender feelings were very complicated and I shouldn't come to a conclusion like that before I saw a therapist.

Really?

A therapist will know better than I do how I identify?

When I told my doctor about it he just said that I had incredible courage to make such a decision and go through it. He did not know how to locate the GID unit in social security since it is a "hidden service", but could gave me a place to start looking for.

Quote from: Abracadabra on September 16, 2012, 07:02:11 AM
"Why not stay as you were for another 10 - 14 years then you'll be dead anyway..."

Someone once told me this (except the years were 70). My answer --> "Because I don't want to die a man. If you don't like it, bite me." 

Quote from: Abracadabra on September 16, 2012, 07:02:11 AM
"Why not stay as you were for another 10 - 14 years then you'll be dead anyway..."

And what if you're unfortunate enough to live to a hundred? Sheesh.

Oh, I did not mention the phrases I got:


"Can't you keept it hidden as you have been doing until now?"
15 freaking years (possibly more). I hide it because I was afraid of you, dad. How much more of my life do you want me to give you?


"We should have noticed something years ago"
As you did not see anything about me in your whole life. Trying to monitorize me for years led me to keep everything to myself, from the school beatings to any problem I had.

"Are you going to leave home with a mini skirt"


Seriously tired. Only girls seem to get it, sadly. The younger they are, the better they accept it.

Here's an educational aid (snagged from a FB post) for those who might need it for the online environment:



You're welcome. 

Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 17, 2012, 12:24:57 AM
Here's an educational aid (snagged from a FB post) for those who might need it for the online environment:



You're welcome. 

Thank-you, this suits me purrrrrrrrrfectly. (Cheshire grin)

That picture just made my evening

Quote from: ZoeNicole on September 18, 2012, 02:51:47 PM
That picture just made my evening

Ya me too. Thanks Beth.