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What is the position of the average muslim to the issue of gender correction

Started by JaneX, June 03, 2007, 09:07:12 AM

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JaneX

So, the title says it about as much as and long letter I could opinion....

The average Muslim likely doesn't worry about this as does the average Christian. It is only an issue when gender corrected individuals seek equal rights and opportunities as there cultural, societies and governments apparently seek to guarantee, but often fail to achieve.

The Holy Qur'an says nothing to gender correction and like faith expression leaves it to the individual, not the society to decide the issues.

In fact only likely is there some misquote or attempt by Hadeeth to argue it is wrong. The hadeeth have traditionally been abused by leaders in the Muslim world to enslave free thought not to encourage it.

So the Muslim world, specifically the individual needs to stop seeking guidance from an earthly body and reaffirm there faith through prayer and community support that opens doors and does not in fact close doors.

Itijihad, is the only correct struggle for me.

Peace

JaneX
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The Middle Way

do you mean itijihad? that's a struggle for me sometimes...
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JaneX

If you subscribe to this definition, perhaps

There is a concept in Islam called itijihad. The root word of itijihad is jihad. Itijihad simply means a struggle or striving to reinterpret and reunderstand the traditions in the context of contemporary times. I think Muslims are beginning to do that. We are beginning to see how religion can play essential roles in the life of a Muslim without sacrificing any of the modern context. In other words, Muslims do not have to live in isolation to be Muslims.

However I see the need as a Muslim, to set the teachers on notice that teachings of hate, that lead only to marginalization and disenfranchisement, will be called to accounting in this life not just the afterlife.
Teachers are free to teach, but we the student must always remember the teacher teaches only to what they believe.... as I see it many teachers of Islam have no real reason to be teaching what they are teaching as authentic Islam.

peace

JaneX
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The Middle Way

Quote from: JaneX on June 15, 2007, 09:35:43 PM

However I see the need as a Muslim, to set the teachers on notice that teachings of hate, that lead only to marginalization and disenfranchisement, will be called to accounting in this life not just the afterlife.

peace

JaneX


Right on.
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Hypatia

The word is ijtihad: ij-ti-had. Pronounced idge (like the border of an area, or a feeling that makes you scratch) + tea (like the drink, only not spelled the same) + hod (what a bricklayer carries bricks in). The concept is being promoted by Canada's lesbian Muslim dissident Irshad Manji, in her Project Ijtihad.

The Classical Arabic word for an MTF transgender or transsexual person is mukhannath. Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi in the 13th century wrote--

"A mukhannath is the one who carries in his movements, in his appearance and in his language the characteristics of a woman. There are two types; the first is the one in whom these characteristics are innate, he did not put them on by himself, and therein is no guilt, no blame and no shame, as long as he does not perform any (illicit) act or exploit it for money (prostitution etc.). The second type acts like a woman out of immoral purposes and he is the sinner and blameworthy."

Further on, al-Nawawi explains that the negative hadith reports only refer to the second kind (similar to what we would call a drag queen), not the mukhannaths in general. The first kind sounds to me very close to modern understandings of TS. It's easy for us to distinguish between TS and drag queens, well the distinction was known to thinkers of olden times too.

Although some Muslims today claim that a transsexual should be punished severely, there is no such report from Muhammad's life. In fact, even long after the time of Muhammad, Muslims accepted the mukhannathun in the sacred boundaries of Islam. There was a mukhannath who was friends with the Prophet's wives and used to visit his house and hang out with the women, in women's space where men weren't allowed.

Khomeini in Iran and al-Tantawi (the Shaykh of al-Azhar, the top Sunni Islamic authority) both issued fatwas that transsexuals should be allowed to transition, get SRS, and live as their target gender. I have heard that more SRS is performed per capita in Iran than in any other country in the world.

It sounds very positive for us TS folks, but the dark side of it comes in reports that Iranian authorities are forcing gays to transition in order for them to get married heterosexually, in other words, to negate their gay identity. If so, this is a heinous abuse of SRS and not at all what it's meant for.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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peggygee

Fatwas allowing SRS have been issued in a number of Isamic countries,
including Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, etc.

A fatwa is a legal opinion or ruling issued by an Islamic scholar, judge
or mufti. It will be based upon the Qur'an, Sunnah and Islamic
Shari'ah. The Shari'ah is the revealed and the canonical laws
of the religion of Islam.

In Malaysia, the dominant sect of Islam is Sunni, with Shāfi'ī
madhab (شافعي) being the governing school guiding regulations. Of the four
schools of fiqh, or religious law the Shāfi'ī school
is the most conservative.

However it is should be pointed out that there are indeed transsexuals in
the Muslim world. The arabic word for transsexual is "mukhannath",
(Arabic مخنثون ") and their existence has been reported in the Quaran.

Posted on: February 24, 2008, 12:47:36 PM
Here are articles discussing Islam and transsexualism:

A fatwa for transsexuals
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/07/28/iran_transsexuals/index.html

Sexuality, gender & Islam
http://www.safraproject.org/sgi-genderidentity.htm

Transsexuality In Iran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran

A Muslim TS Group
http://groups.msn.com/TheSisterhood/transgenderinislam.msnw

Posted on: February 24, 2008, 12:48:46 PM
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Ephilei

I commend these countries and Muslims for understanding and acceptings TSs, but they don't go far enough. They should realize that more genders exist than just man and woman. I'm genderqueer and was excited about traveling to Egypt thinking they might accept my gender more than Americans. Nope. Worse.
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Hypatia

In fact, the acceptance of TS in a binary mode is only the system's way of reinforcing the (heterosexist) binary all the stronger. It can be to our advantage if we're not genderqueer or gay... but deep down I feel the patriarchal system is not our friend. It has its own agenda... of maintaining control over people. I could not conform to their agenda for TS if I were in a Muslim country--even though I fit the female half of the binary--because I'm lesbian.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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imaz

Thought this article on Waria in Indonesia might be of interest:

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gH_DfDQmV1L6LtGF_IMqnBj1RsAQ

However the recent passing of the so called "anti pornografi" legislation will undoubtedly worsen the situation long term as will idiots like the FPI.

May your days be blessed insha'Allah
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