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Started by Ryan55, August 03, 2014, 07:52:21 AM

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Ryan55

I overheard my mom talking to one of her friends. She was saying how it's getting harder to look at me since I started T and she's trying to accept it and she crys at night. I guess this is part of that grieving process were they "lose the daughter" part before gaining the son but it still hurts hearing that. I guess I feel like I'm still the same person just looking more masculine now. I guess this is more of a rant than anything and to see if anyone else kind of had someone close to them go through this too. I'm not stopping the transition, personally myself i never been happier since I started to transition, just i don't know, it sucks, hearing ->-bleeped-<- like that.


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makipu

Yes, I know what you're talking about.  This is the main reason I don't speak with anyone in the house despite living with them.  Sometimes silence is very difficult for me because I need to ask something important and I just don't in the end because my mom hates my "unnaturally gained alcoholic/smoker voice".  It's mutual because I hate the fact that she's so close minded.

They can just get over the fact that they lost the 'daughter' and move on with their apparent son or should keep their discussion/crying quiet and consider that you don't hear them because it REALLY IS bothersome.
I am male because I say so and nothing more.
I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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LordKAT

It might be hard for you to hear, but your mothers feelings are valid and it sounds like she is struggling. I wouldn't take it too harshly.
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Maleth

Like you said, it very much sounds like she's in that "grieving phase". Try not to let it phase you too much, I'm sure it may pass with time with her. To both her and you, your going on T might have been a big change or even sparked big changes for you.. this is much the same to her, and she will get used to it most likely. Time can heal many things, I've learned.
~Maleth
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Bombadil

Definitely sounds like the grieving phase. Its a hard phase for both of you. It does suck. Hang in there.






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Ryan55



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mrs izzy

Give her the time to come around.

I know my husband, he was the first F born and was harder on his father.

But now he is there son 100%

Do not push the issue with anyone, let them settle into the new seat of life.

Hugs
Mrs. Izzy
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devention

If you have a therapist, maybe you can offer to let her speak with them? It may be beneficial for both of you. She can let her grief out; you can feel more comfortable knowing that people generally listen to professionals. She might be upset partially because she's afraid you're doing something now that will make you miserable down the road; that was my mom's biggest fear. Most parents aren't looking for a way to invalidate you:they're looking for a way to explain behavior they have little to no reference for. Beyond a "oh, I wish I didn't have balls right now that hurts" or "curse this uterus and these cramps", no one ever gives real thought to "my sexual characteristics don't feel right" unless they actually don't.
And trans issues aren't something a lot of people are educated on, either. If there's no point of reference, it's incredibly hard to deal with something this huge.  She's probably just scared and confused and sad.
I understand that it hurts to hear her say things like that. But I'm sure that you two can work it out together.
The more I know, the more I know I don't know.






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aleon515

I agree that it sounds like she is really trying to deal with this the best she can and is in the grieving process. I think the idea of asking her if she wants to see your therapist (if you think this person could help) might be a good idea. I'm sure it's hard to hear this, but to them it would appear this has "just happened" and to you, I'm sure you think of it much differently.

--Jay
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Felix

She probably wasn't able to understand and believe and accept that your identity is real and permanent until testosterone changes forced the issue.

I don't know what to say about it though. My loved ones are both really black-and-white thinkers, and they didn't appear to go through any stages of significant grieving or major adjustment with my transition.

I guess I can say that I would cry if my daughter became my son. I would be supportive and respectful, and my love wouldn't change, but it would definitely hurt to make any major revisions to who she is in my mind. Reassessing all my memories of my child and who she is/was would be a really emotional task.
everybody's house is haunted
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Bimmer Guy

I think it is about the grieving process.  From your posts it seems as though your mom is supportive of you in general (and in this?)? 

If so, the simple fact that she isn't saying this to you directly tell you how much she loves you.  I think that is pretty awesome.  Try to stay empathetic to her pain.  It is a big loss for parents.  She will get there.  It is just like any loss.  It can be a long process.  Perhaps you can look to see if there are any support groups online or in your area for parents of children/adult children for your mom.  It is good she has her friend, but is even better if she had other parents to talk to who were dealing with the same thing.

Hang in there.

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Adam (birkin)

My family was like this too, really fixated on the death of one and the birth of another. I honestly can't claim to understand it, and it really upset me for a long time when people treated me like I was killing the old person. Because for me, it wasn't a death or a birth, I just wanted to stop the s* in my head, and transition successfully did that for me.

Hormones really facilitated that process for my whole family. My grandma, who was the most opposed to the transition and the most adamant that she would never use my chosen name, even told me "it's so much easier now that you don't look like a girl, because before I felt like I had to explain to my friends that you were a man in a woman's body, and that made me uncomfortable. Now you look like a man and I don't have to get into it, if they knew you before I just tell them you're not that name anymore." Same thing with my parents, they've both told me that I am just SO much more stable and better to be around...it sort of assuaged their concerns that transition would screw me up rather than make things better for me.

I think part of it is them knowing their "new" child will come out better for it, you know? They worry the transition will make the child they knew a different person or affect their physical and/or mental health negatively. But I feel you, it sucks when you know you're being yourself and others treat you like you you're not the same anymore.
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