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Being not born in the right body and somes spirituals cis peoples

Started by Sosophia, September 19, 2014, 05:24:44 PM

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Sosophia

Hi i m writing this , its because at some point i started interesting myself into spirituality , and then reading stuff concerning the subject about this on internet , and whenever i would read things concerning the topic of sex / gender i felt like most a lot of the theories and practice and idea regarding my condition  were making me feel like i was ignored or not taken into account into theses things , as if all theses things i wasnt part of , like some would talk of the male or the female on the spiritual level like talking from the body assuming the soul is that way or that way depending on the identification from the body and they made me feel that believing myself "female" from other than the body was invalid or really not taken into account , or there was spiritual practice like for the female or for the male again and some where in rapport with the body and i kinda felt like i was throw of theses ones for not having the body i feel would be right , like some stuff like tantric sex , since i havent had surgery its like i couldnt feel like this could be adressed to me , it at some point ended up making me feel like i was spiritually an outcast or disabled in some ways because of this condition , and also the views on the body  werent quite adequate for me , like that there is no reason i should dislike or hate my body while i do because of it being the wrong sex like it was bad in their ideas to have "negative" feelings about the body.
Another thing was when i went on a website forums that was kinda about spirituality , where they all made seems like they were so good and loving peoples or very spiritualy wise , and i at first didnt talk of theses issues , i just registered under a fem name , and i kinda just wanted be my soul there ( in a way spirituality had started interesting me cause i tough in my soul i m not "trans"  or something like that) , some peoples even came to apprecite me , but a while after i kinda told of my situation openly , to talk of the issues and anxiety and all sorts of thing regarding this situation , to talk of my suffering or pain , but it was not received very good , peoples didnt talk to me anymore the sameway , it felt like some were even upset at me as if i had duped them because i didnt tell straight away or that some others felt they needed to " heal" me for how i felt or believing myself a girl , like all of sudden i had become an aberation or a monster to them .  It extremely disturbed me because i higly tough of them , and if i yad open up was because i felt they could understand of the issue of being born with a body that feels wrong , some would tell me to feel content with how i am rather than try to change , qnd it disturbed me at first not because of how they reacted but because i tough what if their right but it was like supporting the idea that i m mentally ill or spiritually ill or unclean for being this way ,to not feel like i was born with the right body for me , it ended up making le feel like the universe was disagreeing with me or that the truth behind me is that i have been struck by a spiritual insanity or something , but later i realized that it might be their spirituals concept about sex , or how to feel about the body of incarnation , that was made from a cis point of view and that its maybe and probably why i have been so felt rejected after i told , because my existence was a conflict with their spirituals conceptions and beliefs and practices , but it has made for me an extremy disturbing experience in a way , wich i still try to recover from.
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makipu

I know what you mean by that. They WON'T understand because they're not the ones going through it. I just go to the spiritual forums for information purposes and nothing more.
I am male because I say so and nothing more.
I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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Sosophia

But i wanted to be with them like they are  , and i tough because they were supposedly spiritual , and i tough my body would count second to the rest ( my soul and so on ) , but it was that i was wrong for the most part , i have just somes who seemed to be "ok" and still talked to me , but it wasnt quite the same and felt a bit of their discomfort , and overall it was quite annoying , i tough it would be a place where my body would impair me less with relationships to peoples , and it felt like "normal" peoples not much into spirituality were able to be better accepting or understanding of it than them , i was quite sadened , and a part of me went a bit hopeless compared to before where i hoped they could understand or even empathyse.
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Mark3

I'm so sorry for what happened in that group, it is heartbreaking when you put confidence into people, and they end up letting you down, or turning away when they finally know you well.. 

As far as religions or spiritual people believing that there is a male and female soul, to my knowledge the only 2 are Muslum and Mormons, so they have no reason to shun you there except for they're ignorance or prejidous.. There was another good topic about CIS understanding Trans today, that was suggested that many times Cis people don't believe trans people are authentic, but just a mis guided version of they're birth gender.. Sad but true...

Maybe there are some more accepting spirituality groups out there you can find, some surely will welcome Trans members to their group..?
Hugs
"The soul is beyond male and female as it is beyond life and death."
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Sosophia

I do not really look for any anymore , they had some lgbt peoples in there , but as you just said , it felt like trans was a mis guided version of the birth gender in theyr eyes , and its partly why i didnt told of it in the first place because i wanted to let be just my soul there before talking of theses things . I didnt put confidence in them , i had confidence about them more or less , and i realized that i was maybe wrong about theses confidences or hopes i had , i regarded them in a too much esteem , and even more esteem than me , wich made that the feeling of their reaction bore some weight on me , making me feel that i maybe wasnt authentic and just a misguided version , and that they were right , it has made quite a mess of confidence in me ^^ .
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