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Started by Shennae, August 25, 2018, 09:05:41 PM

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Shennae

What are some tests to determine if I am intersexed? I think I might be. Feel funny behind my penis.

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Shennae
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Doreen

Quote from: Shennae on August 25, 2018, 09:05:41 PM
What are some tests to determine if I am intersexed? I think I might be. Feel funny behind my penis.

Thanks
Shennae

Go to a geneticist.  They usually have long wait lists though.  Plus its not always definitive on genetics either.  You could also talk with an endocrinologist and have a basic karyotype done... that also doesn't always tell.   

Best of luck.
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Virginia

It's important to realize there are three distinct ways of being intersexed; mentally, physically and genetically. A person may experience any or all of these and each one has its own "tests."
~VA (pronounced Vee- Aye, the abbreviation for the State of Virginia where I live)
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dustydan

For me, never wanted it, knew since very young I wasn't right. things were not explained to me. I was constantly lied to or not fully informed and very naive. but I never wanted to be intersexed. I fully except it but its not been a fun ride for sure..lol,

I said it before. This site and contributors have given me more information than a lifetime of doctors..

below is what my doc supplied me on my medical web portal...  This is not complete but a reference, if you look at the links in the header of this site under "WIKI" there are much more...
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Intersex is a group of conditions where there is a discrepancy between the external genitals and the internal genitals (the testes and ovaries).

The older term for this condition is hermaphroditism. Although the older terms are still included in this article for reference, they have been replaced by most experts, patients and families. Increasingly, this group of conditions is being called disorders of sex development (DSDs).
Causes

Intersex can be divided into 4 categories:

    46, XX intersex
    46, XY intersex
    True gonadal intersex
    Complex or undetermined intersex

Each one is discussed in more detail below. Note: In many children, the cause of intersex may remain undetermined, even with modern diagnostic techniques.

46, XX INTERSEX

The person has the chromosomes of a woman, the ovaries of a woman, but external (outside) genitals that appear male. This most often is the result of a female fetus having been exposed to excess male hormones before birth. The labia ("lips" or folds of skin of the external female genitals) fuse, and the clitoris enlarges to appear like a penis. In most cases, this person has a normal uterus and fallopian tubes. This condition is also called 46, XX with virilization. It used to be called female pseudohermaphroditism. There are several possible causes:

    Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (the most common cause).
    Male hormones (such as testosterone) taken or encountered by the mother during pregnancy.
    Male hormone-producing tumors in the mother: These are most often ovarian tumors. Mothers who have children with 46, XX intersex should be checked unless there is another clear cause.

    Aromatase deficiency: This one may not be noticeable until puberty. Aromatase is an enzyme that normally converts male hormones to female hormones. Too much aromatase activity can lead to excess estrogen (female hormone); too little to 46, XX intersex. At puberty, these XX children, who had been raised as girls, may begin to take on male characteristics.

46, XY INTERSEX

The person has the chromosomes of a man, but the external genitals are incompletely formed, ambiguous, or clearly female. Internally, testes may be normal, malformed, or absent. This condition is also called 46, XY with undervirilization. It used to be called male pseudohermaphroditism. Formation of normal male external genitals depends on the appropriate balance between male and female hormones. Therefore, it requires the adequate production and function of male hormones. 46, XY intersex has many possible causes:

    Problems with the testes: The testes normally produce male hormones. If the testes do not form properly, it will lead to undervirilization. There are a number of possible causes for this, including XY pure gonadal dysgenesis.
    Problems with testosterone formation: Testosterone is formed through a series of steps. Each of these steps requires a different enzyme. Deficiencies in any of these enzymes can result in inadequate testosterone and produce a different syndrome of 46, XY intersex. Different types of congenital adrenal hyperplasia can fall in this category.
    Problems with using testosterone: Some people have normal testes and make adequate amounts of testosterone, but still have 46, XY intersex due to conditions such as 5-alpha-reductase deficiency or androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS).
    People with 5-alpha-reductase deficiency lack the enzyme needed to convert testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). There are at least 5 different types of 5-alpha-reductase deficiency. Some of the babies have normal male genitalia, some have normal female genitalia, and many have something in between. Most change to external male genitalia around the time of puberty.
    AIS is the most common cause of 46, XY intersex. It has also been called testicular feminization. Here, the hormones are all normal, but the receptors to male hormones don't function properly. There are over 150 different defects that have been identified so far, and each causes a different type of AIS.

TRUE GONADAL INTERSEX

The person must have both ovarian and testicular tissue. This may be in the same gonad (an ovotestis), or the person might have 1 ovary and 1 testis. The person may have XX chromosomes, XY chromosomes, or both. The external genitals may be ambiguous or may appear to be female or male. This condition used to be called true hermaphroditism. In most people with true gonadal intersex, the underlying cause is unknown, although in some animal studies it has been linked to exposure to common agricultural pesticides.

COMPLEX OR UNDETERMINED INTERSEX DISORDERS OF SEXUAL DEVELOPMENT

Many chromosome configurations other than simple 46, XX or 46, XY can result in disorders of sex development. These include 45, XO (only one X chromosome), and 47, XXY, 47, XXX - both cases have an extra sex chromosome, either an X or a Y. These disorders do not result in a condition where there is discrepancy between internal and external genitalia. However, there may be problems with sex hormone levels, overall sexual development, and altered numbers of sex chromosomes.
Symptoms

The symptoms associated with intersex will depend on the underlying cause. They may include:

    Ambiguous genitalia at birth
    Micropenis
    Clitoromegaly (an enlarged clitoris)
    Partial labial fusion
    Apparently undescended testes (which may turn out to be ovaries) in boys
    Labial or inguinal (groin) masses (which may turn out to be testes) in girls
    Hypospadias (the opening of the penis is somewhere other than at the tip; in females, the urethra [urine canal] opens into the vagina)
    Otherwise unusual-appearing genitalia at birth
    Electrolyte abnormalities
    Delayed or absent puberty
    Unexpected changes at puberty

Exams and Tests

The following tests and exams may be done:

    Chromosome analysis
    Hormone levels (for example, testosterone level)
    Hormone stimulation tests
    Electrolyte tests
    Specific molecular testing
    Endoscopic exam (to verify the absence or presence of a vagina or cervix)
    Ultrasound or MRI to evaluate whether internal sex organs are present (for example, a uterus)


Treatment

Ideally, a team of health care professionals with expertise in intersex should work together to understand and treat the child with intersex and support the family.

Parents should understand controversies and changes in treating intersex in recent years. In the past, the prevailing opinion was that it was generally best to assign a gender as quickly as possible. This was often based on the external genitals rather than the chromosomal gender. Parents were told to have no ambiguity in their minds as to the gender of the child. Prompt surgery was often recommended. Ovarian or testicular tissue from the other gender would be removed. In general, it was considered easier to reconstruct female genitalia than functioning male genitalia, so if the "correct" choice was not clear, the child was often assigned to be a girl.

More recently, the opinion of many experts has shifted. Greater respect for the complexities of female sexual functioning has led them to conclude that suboptimal female genitalia may not be inherently better than suboptimal male genitalia, even if the reconstruction is "easier." In addition, other factors may be more important in gender satisfaction than functioning external genitals. Chromosomal, neural, hormonal, psychological, and behavioral factors can all influence gender identity.

Many experts now urge delaying definitive surgery for as long as is healthy, and ideally involving the child in the gender decision.

Clearly, intersex is a complex issue, and its treatment has short- and long-term consequences. The best answer will depend on many factors, including the specific cause of the intersex. It is best to take the time to understand the issues before rushing into a decision. An intersex support group may help acquaint families with the latest research, and may provide a community of other families, children, and adult individuals who have faced the same issues.
Support Groups

Support groups are very important for families dealing with intersex.

Different support groups may differ in their thoughts regarding this very sensitive topic. Look for one that supports your thoughts and feelings on the topic.

The following organizations provide further information:

    Association for X and Y chromosome variations -- genetic.org
    CARES Foundation -- www.caresfoundation.org/
    Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia Education and Support Network -- www.congenitaladrenalhyperplasia.org
    Hypospadias and Epispadias Association -- heainfo.org
    Intersex Society of North America -- www.isna.org
    Turner Syndrome Society of the United States -- www.turnersyndrome.org
    XXYY Project -- xxyysyndrome.org/main

Outlook (Prognosis)

Please see information on the individual conditions. The prognosis depends on the specific cause of intersex. With understanding, support, and appropriate treatment, overall outlook is excellent.
When to Contact a Medical Professional

If you notice that your child has unusual genitalia or sexual development, discuss this with your health care provider.
Alternative Names

Disorders of sex development; DSDs; Pseudohermaphroditism; Hermaphroditism; Hermaphrodite
References

Donohoue PA. Disorders of sex development. In: Kliegman RM, Stanton BF, St. Geme JW, Schor NF, eds. Nelson Textbook of Pediatrics. 20th ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier; 2016:chap 588.

medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm

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josie76

AIS is diagnoses primarily on external gential anomolies first. Gene sequencing test of the AR gene can be done but is expensive. As of the end of 2017 there are over 600 cataloged mutations for this gene in the medical database.

The big issue on actual diagnosis by genome sequencing is that once a doctor diagnoses you based on genital anomalies, there is no "medically necessary" reason for insurance to cover the gene testing. AIS has only one treatment and that is hormone therapy depending on the gender identity of the patient. Also for male identifying patients, a aromatase inhibitor may be needed as extra free T in the blood is often converted to estradiol.

It's easier to get the gene test done for an otherwise normal man who has low sperm fertility than for a patient who has any actual genital anomalies.

Grade 1 MAIS = normal male phenotype and usually male gender identity. AR mutations found when investigating fertility issues only.

Grade 2-5 PAIS = varying degrees if genital anomolies. Varying degrees of feminized bone structure similar to Klienfelters patients. Studies show even split in gender identity amount these patients. Some Grade 2 are fertile. Nearly all grade 3 and above do not produce fertile sperm.

Grade 6 CAIS = female external genitals, female phenotype, nearly always female gender identity, body does respond to some androgens, grows pubic hair and normal female body hair patterns.

Grade 7 CAIS = female external genitals, female phenotype, female gender identity, no body or pubic hair response.


My doctor would place me in the Grade 2 catagory. I have enough anomolies to be close to Grade 3 but I was able to have children. I have a mix of phenotype traits. My bones are large for a woman but have feminine joint profiles. My body responded to testosterone somewhat. I had male muscle development and bone enlargement. Some minor masculine changes to my skull. My chin is longer and I have small growth in the supraorbital arches. I did not get the jaw flare or other common male traits. So I am kind of androgenous. My shoulders sit high but are close to my chest. My pelvis is wider than my chest but I lacked the pubescent hip widening. Other than the lack of extra pubescent widening, my pelvis fits the description of a gynacoid shape. I have a very female gender identity. I had a sort of delayed puberty. I did not have chest or back hair until in my 30s and although I didn't  realize it then, I had a female pubic hair pattern before then as well. Iam 46 XY according to a karyotype test. My doctor saw no need for the gene mutation test and my insurance would not cover it saying it was not medically necessary.
04/26/2018 bi-lateral orchiectomy

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