Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

[Ryuichi13]

Oh trust me, with every issue that the current POTUS has tried to repeal, destroy or otherwise subvert, more and more Americans are waking up to the fact that "I might be next!" 

I have been, and am currently involved in the Transgender community.  The day he cheated...uh "won" the highest office in the land, I galvanized, having decided even before I started transitioning that "I wasn't going to stand still and do nothing should he decide to pick on the LGBT+ community!"  I'm happy to say that I am not the only one to get motivated after Nov 2016. 

More and more people are not tolerating the things he is doing to whatever group he is picking on at the moment.  More and more people are protesting his outrageous policies, getting out to vote, and running for government office that might not have done so otherwise. 

Trust me, we are NOT going to "just stand by and let his evil happen!"  Americans are known for fighting for what we believe in, and if that means protesting, running for office, or getting people out to vote, it'll be done!

I refuse to believe that we Americans will let bigotry win, this fight, or ANY unjust fight.

Ryuichi

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[Johnni Gyrl]

FYI, I'm pro-Brexit, pro-Capitalism, pro Freemarket Economics and do NOT identify as a neo-nazi.

The EU is a protectionist club for the wealthy old-guard nations, and if Brexit allows the UK to trade freely and openly with the World and not just a single bloc, then I fully support it, including allowing movement of people - this is real liberalism and gives opportunity to all. The EU has had many benefits for the UK, but in a global world and economy,  it's time is done.

I'm am NOT a fan of Trump, but I have the wits to understand that not every politician on one side of a house has it in for me and not every one on the other side is my biggest fan. I guarantee that personal attacks on others diminish us though.

I might think that the members of this site would understand that life is not black & white, but maybe not [emoji853]



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Megan - I am also pro-Brexit, as the EU spider web works only for the 1% Elite. Ask the people of Greece & Catalonia what they think of it, I'm sure they'd agree with us both. Nor did I suggest every pro-Brexiteer was a neo-Nazi. However, many of those people with far right-wing ideology have jumped on the Brexit bandwagon - which should have been about making a fresh start for Britain, rather than racism, fascism & dragging the Uk backwards by trying to build Empire V.2.

The point is the far-right think they are and *are* getting away with much more than they did before Trump & Brexit, hence the 'green light' mentioned in my first comment.

Trickle down economics isn't working either, it only trickles upwards, despite the positive rhetoric of the free market-eers. So, we'll have to disagree on those points. I support controlled capitalism, as free reign markets have completely failed time & again to help those at the bottom even gain a foothold upwards.

And back to the original point - far-right ideology is well entwined with anti-LGBT rights and it is this ideology which preys on the weak minded and easy manipulated that is on the rise.

[Northern Star Girl]

Trans erasure is a hate crime. Let's all wait and see where it goes. If the worst happens, sue the government. We are a form of freedom of speach and expression. Use that! Nonetheless, VOTE!

@SkyVoices
Dear SkyVoices:
    Let's take a quick break from the subject of this thread and allow me to Welcome you to the Susan's Place Forums.
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[Northern Star Girl]

@SkyVoices 
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[ainsley]

Allow me to state once again for those in the US that think we area a democracy and that what the president does matters, and for those outside the US that think what the president does reflects the majority of US citizens views/beliefs:

We are a representative republic.  We are not a democracy.
The president is a figure head with limited ability to recommend policies for certain federal agencies.
The States and the people in those States are the only ones with power.
Devlyn tried to politely tell you all that it is the congress (house of representatives and senate) that make laws; not the president.
The people of the States have individual abilities to pass their own laws that go against the federal government.  I will give you one example: marijuana.
The majority of the country is not anti lgbt.  Polls and other studies have shown that.
What the president does affects the federal agencies, and the States that rely on monies from those agencies.  If the States disagree, they can sue, or just ignore the Fed. (again, marijuana, sanctuary cities, etc.).
Your best best is what Devlyn said: Term Limits.  Get those lifetime senators and representative OUT.
Vote locally to start the ground up implementation of representatives that meet your ideals.
If you live in a State that goes against your ideals time and again, then fight or move to one that suits you.
Stop denigrating people, and especially people here on this forum, for their political ideals and beliefs.  That is what congress does and we all know how well that is working right now.  Agree to disagree and love each other, dammit.

I would remind you that this is cyclical.  The right was just as up in arms when obama and his peeps took office and did the ACA, the big 1.6 trillion dollar bailout, etc., as the left is now.  He had limited ability to affect our lives beyond the State's laws, too.  Multiple States took the US Gov to court over ACA...

My 2 cents. 🙂

[GingerVicki]

Congress and the senate are much more important and powerful than the president.

[Danni98]

We're actually a constitutional republic.

[Lucca]

The President absolutely matters, if it weren't for Trump we wouldn't have Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, for one. And while the President does not directly create laws, they certainly have an influence over Congress and can introduce legislation by proxy. The ACA would not have been presented and then passed without Obama's influence.

[GingerVicki]

Yes he matters, but the president does not have free reign. The check and balance system does work for the most part. I've researched and have not found a better system. This could be as good as it gets.

[Linde]

Actually Jane I have been persuaded. Although I have never voted democrat before I will be this election, with the exception of one self admitted communist district rep. Sorry I don't care what happens I won't do communism. But if you dem's start your gun grabbing crap I will go back to voting red in 2024.

If my Dems ever start to put their fingers on my guns, they are not my Dems anymore!

However, there have never been any Dems who really wanted to go for the guns.  This was only fear mongering from the NRA and some extreme right wing groups. 
I was in the inside of the Dems in Minnesota, one of the really blue states, but also one of the states with a high amount of gun ownership per capita.  Half of the Dem leadership there could have compete with the National Guard concerning being armed. 
Nobody ever mentioned to take anybody's guns away.  The only guns that are not liked (by most Americans) are military style assault guns.

As I say, if anybody of the Dems come for our guns, I march with you arm in arm to the Rep side!

[randim]

The balance of power between the executive and legislative branches has moved back and forth a lot over U.S. history.  We are currently living in a time when the President wields an awful lot of power.  Take the power to wage war.  One of the most consequential powers.  In theory, the Congress should control this but as a practical matter that has not been the case for a long time.  In the case of the gender controversy the proposed changes are coming from the executive branch all the way, not Congress.  Trump is filling the federal government with people that are extremely anti-LGBT, and that has a major impact.

[ErinAscending]

Yes he matters, but the president does not have free reign. The check and balance system does work for the most part. I've researched and have not found a better system. This could be as good as it gets.

As the pendulum may swing
As the momentum may build
Inevitability creates it's own demise
And conclusions may be killed

The effect of this admin on the Supreme Court is by far the most egregious to our cause as a marginalized community.  Everything else he does CAN be undone relatively quickly.  But even the Supreme Court changes over time.  I'll be honest and say that I am palpably scared with what has been happening.  I only take solace in knowing that even if things do nothing but get worse over the course of my lifetime, I am confident that eventually this will all be a nightmare long forgotten in better times.  May we all see those times soon.

I lost my faith a long time ago but I still have hope.  Else I wouldn't be here to continue hoping.

[Cindy]

A response by WPATH and USPATH was released overnight you can read it here

https://www.wpath.org/ 🔗

WPATH Board Responds to Federal Effort to Redefine Gender -

[PhoenixGurl2016]

A response by WPATH and USPATH was released overnight you can read it here

https://www.wpath.org/ 🔗

WPATH Board Responds to Federal Effort to Redefine Gender -

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[blackcat]

Cindy, thank you for sharing the WPATH bulletin. I really needed to see that.

[AnneK]

As I say, if anybody of the Dems come for our guns, I march with you arm in arm to the Rep side!

Why are Americans so attached to their guns?  As one looking in, I see them causing more problems than they solve.  My understanding of the 2nd amendment was the right to guns was for forming a militia, something that was needed in the early days of the U.S..  How many gun owners are in a militia?  And yes I know how that amendment got turned around by the gun lobby and how the NRA is a front for gun manufacturers.  Used to be the NRA was about gun and hunting safety.  Now it's about selling as many guns as possible, no matter the consequences.
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BTW, I have nothing against guns and in fact used to own a rifle.  The problem seems to be more with the gun crazy attitude some people have.  My understanding is that most Americans don't own a gun, but those that do tend to own several, including assault rifles.  Why on earth would any law abiding citizen need one of those???

Incidentally, there was an article in the news recently, about how right wing extremists are joining the militia in Canada to get gun and military training.  Why would they be doing that?  Is the same thing happening in the U.S.?

[Dena]

Why are Americans so attached to their guns?  As one looking in, I see them causing more problems than they solve.  My understanding of the 2nd amendment was the right to guns was for forming a militia, something that was needed in the early days of the U.S..  How many gun owners are in a militia?  And yes I know how that amendment got turned around by the gun lobby and how the NRA is a front for gun manufacturers.  Used to be the NRA was about gun and hunting safety.  Now it's about selling as many guns as possible, no matter the consequences.
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BTW, I have nothing against guns and in fact used to own a rifle.  The problem seems to be more with the gun crazy attitude some people have.  My understanding is that most Americans don't own a gun, but those that do tend to own several, including assault rifles.  Why on earth would any law abiding citizen need one of those???

Incidentally, there was an article in the news recently, about how right wing extremists are joining the militia in Canada to get gun and military training.  Why would they be doing that?  Is the same thing happening in the U.S.?

The primary function is to defend our freedoms. Should somebody in political office refuse to leave office when the time comes or should they turn the military on the civilian population, firearms are to be used by the population to regain control of the government.

[Linde]

Why are Americans so attached to their guns? 

I am not really an American!  I lived half of my life in Europe!
I still like my guns, not to kill people but as mechanical masterpieces, for sporting purposes and lastly for self defense.

[Linde]

The primary function is to defend our freedoms. Should somebody in political office refuse to leave office when the time comes or should they turn the military on the civilian population, firearms are to be used by the population to regain control of the government.

That dream is kind of a joke!
Here I sit with my two rifles, a Remington Shotgun and a 350 pistol to defend us against the government who comes with tanks, Apache helicopters, Drones and what ever!  This was a dream when this country was founded, but the minute armored vehicles were invented, the dream came to a screeching halt!

[Dena]

That dream is kind of a joke!
Here I sit with my two rifles, a Remington Shotgun and a 350 pistol to defend us against the government who comes with tanks, Apache helicopters, Drones and what ever!  This was a dream when this country was founded, but the minute armored vehicles were invented, the dream came to a screeching halt!

Snipers are the most effective way to deal with a large force and sometimes it only takes one shell to solve the problem. Wining by force may not be possible however at the right time and place it may still be possible to win a conflict.