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Started by Susan, October 21, 2018, 03:15:17 PM

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Susan

We have been politically neutral on this site, that changes now. You are free to openly condemn political parties and politicians and their policies that have a history of targeting the transgender and LGBTQIA community for hate, bigotry, discrimination. Doing so is hereby exempted from TOS 10 until further notice.

If you wish to express your support for those policies, parties and politicians take it to another web site. It is not welcome here. (TOS 9)

If this makes anyone feel unwelcome I am sorry but the Republican Party has declared open war on the transgender community, and this is the start of our response.

Members of this site are still fully prohibited from attacking other members no matter their political affiliations.
Susan Larson
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HappyMoni

Good Susan, they have declared war on our existence. It is beyond question. I do hope we can be respectful to each other.
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
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GingerVicki

I really like the idea of being about to speak freely without all of the fluff. It is difficult something to state my position while remaining neutral. I believe that it makes my post sound indecisive and that I'm supporting the current Administration.

I will have to remember to remain tactful.
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Janes Groove

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

- Martin Niemöller
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itsApril

-April
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Mariah

After what I read in the New York Times, Thank You.
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JannaLM

Thank you!

It's good to know there's a safe place to vent about these people.
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AnneK

I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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KathyLauren

Yes.  That is a necessary change.
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DustKitten

Thank you. This needs to be discussed and it would be difficult to do so without getting politics involved.
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Melinda@heart

I have voted Republican since I registered to vote at age 18. However, I can no longer support the Republican party. Donald Trump is a puppet for those who would exclude certain groups of people. In coming to terms with my transgender nature, I realized just how much hate their is for what I am. It's not just hate for trans people, it's hate for anyone they disagree with. The way they treat us, immigrants and LBG communities is just wrong and I like many of you have had enough.

I've stayed before in my previous posts that I have deep religious beliefs. I know that many Christian's think they are doing the right thing by excluding the groups I mentioned, but they fail to realize their job here on earth is to love not only those who agree with then, but also those who they disagree with. The same is suppose to be true for politics, but sadly it is not. This seems to be the case on both sides. What happened to disagreeing civilly? What happened to respecting others opinions and beliefs? The political hostility that both parties exhibit towards each other has just gotten out of hand. I'm worried for the future of our country. With so many countries out there willing to sow strife and make subtle attacks against the US we really need to find some common ground.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness... what does my happiness have to do with anyone else? I'm not asking these people to be my friend or be in my life in any way shape or form. I have a fundamental right to pursue what makes me happy as long as it doesn't take that right from someone else. How is me asking to be treated as an equal to Cisgender people so bad? I'm human. I have feelings. I have rights. Why can't anti trans supporters understand this? If they can deny us rights, they can deny anyone rights. When are the supporters of the politicians pushing this crap going to wake up and realize this?

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SadieBlake

About time.

Ms complete I'm sure the Republicans here are welcome to defend what their party has been working towards since Regan.
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Michelle_P

Quote from: Complete on October 21, 2018, 09:09:37 PM
How, pray tell, can this be "discussed" if only one side is represented? I think this is called group think or...an echo chamber. 😦😡😬😬😂😬😕😕😕😀😱😱😱😲😵

One side seeks our removal from public life as a minimum, pushing towards involuntary commitment and "repartative therapy".  The other side of the debate seeks to let us live.

My life is NOT up for debate.  My EXISTENCE is not up for debate.

Consider the Jewish population at this date exactly 80 years ago.  They had been informed that their papers would no longer be valid several days ago.  Krystallnacht was a few weeks in their future.  Exactly who in the synagogue was debating for the government position?

The side of the debate opposed to our freedoms explicitly states that transgender is not real, that this is a mental illness, and greets any argument we might make that we are real with an infinite chain of 'prove it' demands.  A debate of this form is fundamentally unwinnable, and we are refusing to engage in that.

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PhoenixGurl2016

We need to unite, we need to stop the arguing among ourselves, the policing of PC also has to be paused. If we do not, it WILL be the end of us.




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natalie.ashlyne

I am sorry what all of you in the usa are going through. I personally can't believe it I cant think of one good thing that he is doing He is hurting millions of people per day when is this going to end. The usa is the most powerful nation and it is hurting its people well as Robert de Niro said     " #@#@ Trump ". We all have to stick together and fight for to maintain your rights your life and your freedom it is sad it has come to this. You have the support from here in canada
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Devlyn

Quote from: Complete on October 21, 2018, 11:45:30 PM
Due to the recent dictates of the powers that be, l must respectfully decline to respond on the grounds that it could get me banned,  (again).😬😬😬😬😬

I fear the same, but I've been banned before, and probably will again.

We must speak for what we believe, and trust that the staff is mature enough to set their personal feelings aside and prevent members from making personal attacks on other members.

I'm republican and will continue to be. I vote for the party of fiscal responsibility and smaller government. Let's not forget it was republicans who freed the slaves from democratic party beliefs. Parties change, and they will continue to change in the future.

If we can learn anything from the Obama administration, it is the need to reach across the aisle and work across government to enact change. The man failed miserably in this regard. He cited obstructionism  and resorted to executive orders time and time again, knowing full well that those would be easily overturned when he left office.

Take heart, NC tried this type of nonsense. Business and social pressure extracted a great price from them. Progress is on our side.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn
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PhoenixGurl2016

Quote from: Devlyn on October 22, 2018, 01:22:33 AM
I fear the same, but I've been banned before, and probably will again.

We must speak for what we believe, and trust that the staff is mature enough to set their personal feelings aside and prevent members from making personal attacks on other members.

I'm republican and will continue to be. I vote for the party of fiscal responsibility and smaller government. Let's not forget it was republicans who freed the slaves from democratic party beliefs. Parties change, and they will continue to change in the future.

If we can learn anything from the Obama administration, it is the need to reach across the aisle and work across government to enact change. The man failed miserably in this regard. He cited obstructionism  and resorted to executive orders time and time again, knowing full well that those would be easily overturned when he left office.

Take heart, NC tried this type of nonsense. Business and social pressure extracted a great price from them. Progress is on our side.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn

Those "things" are not worth my life, freedom, or existence. I REFUSE to give you (or any other Republican) the opportunity to put things into motion that will cause my destruction and I'm not alone in that. Just remember that when they come for me, they WILL come for you as well. You are NOT safe.


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Devlyn

Quote from: PhoenixGurl2016 on October 22, 2018, 01:26:49 AM
Those "things" are not worth my life, freedom, or existence. I REFUSE to give you (or any other Republican) the opportunity to put things into motion that will cause my destruction and I'm not alone in that. Just remember that when they come for me, they WILL come for you as well. You are NOT safe.


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That sounds a lot like the victim card. They came for Rosa Parks...and racial equality became law.
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Devlyn

Quote from: Complete on October 21, 2018, 09:09:37 PM
How, pray tell, can this be "discussed" if only one side is represented? I think this is called group think or...an echo chamber. 😦😡😬😬😂😬😕😕😕😀😱😱😱😲😵

So true.

As an aside, wouldn't it be a good idea to restrict this new site policy to just this one thread, so that partisan politics doesn't ruin every thread on the site? I can see this new policy devolving into every disagreement ending with "What are you, some kind of republican?"
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PhoenixGurl2016

Quote from: Devlyn on October 22, 2018, 01:30:37 AM
That sounds a lot like the victim card. They came for Rosa Parks...and racial equality became law.

That sounds like ignorance to me. You don't get to be a minority and not care about you and your kind. You don't get to risk our lives because they have not come for you. I refuse to be victimized by one of my own kind's ignorance.


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