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There's another woman in my house!

Started by Anne T, January 09, 2019, 11:41:52 PM

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Anne T

For the entire length of my marriage (20 years) I've had the run of the house.  The closets have been organized according to my sense of design. In the the bathroom everything had its own place. Having another woman in the house moving my things around in the bathroom has been upsetting to me. There's more "women" stuff every where! It's starting to look like a bath and body store in there! Then there's the fact that's she likes to "borrow" my make up and shirts despite having her own. I've never had to share with anyone before. It will take some getting use to.

But do not fear...despite my complaining there is a good side to having another woman in the house. For some reason there is more laughter in the house. We just break down laughing sometimes. We stay up to the wee hours just talking and enjoying each other's company. There's been a change in household chores. I now have a person who wants to help in the kitchen...very new change and 20 years over due if you want my personal opinion. But the best part is seeing her have the freedom of expression. The happiness she displays is genuine. By coming out of hiding and breaking the bond of secrecy our relationship is growing in trust and honesty.

In a few days it will be one month since he told me about her. I've run the gamut of emotions. I'm learning to get to know this woman that means so very much to her.  I really thought I knew my husband but I'm discovering so many new things. My concept of what love and commitment are has broaden to include a protectiveness of this woman who is now in my life.
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
                                                       ~John Lennon
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Moonflower

Ann, I love your honesty and sense of humor as you describe your challenge and some benefits of having another woman in your house.

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My concept of what love and commitment are has broaden to include a protectiveness of this woman who is now in my life.
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Marvelous!  Do you see yourself as a Mama Bear? A lioness? A knightess in shining armor?
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1999 we met and married :icon_archery:
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She began MTF HRT but had adverse reactions, so gave up on transitioning medically.
Summer 2022 I went through gender confirmation surgery as a result of cancer.
2024 her cardiologist and a therapist wrote letters approving of resuming HRT, she's legally changing her name, and now she's getting on the calendar for surgery!

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Anne T


Marvelous!  Do you see yourself as a Mama Bear? A lioness? A knightess in shining armor?
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Quoteumm, hadn't given it much thought.....probably a Mama Bear that nurtures but can turn into a lioness if a threat is perceived.
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
                                                       ~John Lennon
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Sylvia

I swear I replied to to this but its gone! Oh well, it wasn't very positive anyway.

Glad you are seeing a positive in this - my situation is NOTHING like this. I wish I could see any advantages for me.

Sending love xxx
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GingerVicki

This sounds like a fantastic situation!
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Allison S

Sounds like you're making the most of what would lead others to divorce... It's a good way to look at the many new changes with your husband (now wife?)... Are you bisexual? 20 years is a long time and hey you get to experience a lesbian marriage now [emoji4]

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Anne T

Quote from: Allison S on January 15, 2019, 06:54:03 AM
Sounds like you're making the most of what would lead others to divorce... It's a good way to look at the many new changes with your husband (now wife?)... Are you bisexual? 20 years is a long time and hey you get to experience a lesbian marriage now [emoji4]

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QuoteThank you for your kind words and support.  Yes, 20 years is a long time. We promised each other at our wedding to never mention the D word. So far we have been faithful to keep that promise although it not always easy. I don't want to put a label on my relationship/marriage because nothing is black and white. We are two people who fell in love and remain in love despite an avalanche of changes.   
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
                                                       ~John Lennon
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Anne T

Quote from: Sylvia on January 15, 2019, 02:33:46 AM
I swear I replied to to this but its gone! Oh well, it wasn't very positive anyway.

Glad you are seeing a positive in this - my situation is NOTHING like this. I wish I could see any advantages for me.

Sending love xxx

QuoteSylvia, I remember your original post and was going to respond but cyberworld had other plans.  I'm sorry that it's not been a positive change for you. I remember not long ago thinking if he wants to be a women then she needs to take some of the woman responsibility in the house. That this change can't be a woman with benefits type relationship. So I sat down and talked with her about how generally a woman is always hands on around the house and nurturing everyone under the roof. That she should have some of those responsibilities now as a woman. She agreed and said as a woman she enjoys helping around the house. I think communication is so essential. I don't know anything about your situation but I hope that in time changes will happen that benefits you as well.
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
                                                       ~John Lennon
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Tessa James

Thank you Anne for such a supportive message.  What you demonstrate, along with so many spouses impacted by gender transitions, is that there are people who see and feel the advantages and opportunities as much or more than the dreadful sense of loss some experience and cannot get through.

My spouse of 45 years has always known my true nature and was instrumental in getting me in to the therapy i desperately needed with answers to the questions I long avoided.  Life comes with other dramatic changes that include death and indignity.  Any transition can be difficult but primary relationships need resilience and flexibility for personal growth and sustainability.

Are we as a couple worth the effort?   Some say YES!
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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Jeal

You are really handling it so well!  Thank you for sharing, it gives me hope for my own situation.

Love,

Jael
Trans-cendental Musings Blog and Art:
https://jaelpw.wixsite.com/website


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Anne T

Quote from: Jeal on January 20, 2019, 06:14:41 PM
You are really handling it so well!  Thank you for sharing, it gives me hope for my own situation.

Love,

Jael

Thank you...however I need to be honest...I have my speed bumps just like everyone else.  I suppose it's what we do when we come upon those speed bumps. Do we stop in place? Or do we go around them by circumventing honest conversation or go through the speed bump with positivity?
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
                                                       ~John Lennon
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Jeal

It took me a few weeks to see it from my wife's perspective, as much as I can anyways. It is so different from what I am going through, but, I think I have years of dysphoria to move away from, I'm not sure she has found a Star to guide her.  It sounds like you are focusing on the right things.

Love,

Jael
Trans-cendental Musings Blog and Art:
https://jaelpw.wixsite.com/website


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Sylvia

'Sylvia, I remember your original post and was going to respond but cyberworld had other plans.  I'm sorry that it's not been a positive change for you. I remember not long ago thinking if he wants to be a women then she needs to take some of the woman responsibility in the house. That this change can't be a woman with benefits type relationship. So I sat down and talked with her about how generally a woman is always hands on around the house and nurturing everyone under the roof. That she should have some of those responsibilities now as a woman. She agreed and said as a woman she enjoys helping around the house. I think communication is so essential. I don't know anything about your situation but I hope that in time changes will happen that benefits you as well.'

Sorry, I don't want to offend, but do people in this day and age really think that? Are there still 'female roles' and 'male roles'? In our relationship we've always taken equal responsibility around the house - he's tidier and more organised than me in any case. Yes, I guess I do most of the cooking, as I'm an ok cook and quite enjoy it, but I don't sew/knit/iron/flower arrange etc, I hate housework and I LOATHE clothes shopping! And he is quite practical (which I'm not) so does most of the fixing things. But I don't think it's ANYTHING to do with a 'woman's role'! We also parent our kids equally, we are equally nurturing and always have been. I certainly don't expect (or want!) him to don a frilly apron and duster and suddenly turn into some kind of domestic goddess (although I've always encouraged him to take up cooking as a hobby!).

Maybe he is getting the 'woman with benefits' deal here, as I've said, he really hasn't changed as a person at all since starting hormones, other than grown a pair of tits!

I suppose this is why I can't see ANY advantage to me. Yes, he's a bit happier in himself, which is great, but I'm yet to see any great joy or peace or huge empathy. He still has his demons and bad moods and gets angry about things that used to make him angry and reacts in the same way, still loathes any kind of socialising, hates people generally. Basically as much of a grumpy old man as he's ever been. Maybe I had a false hope that he'd change into a socialising, fun-loving friendly person (as I am) once he was running on the right fuel, but there are no signs of that happening.

But I love to see you taking it with such humour - we do too. I take the micky out of him quite often, and we often laugh about things together. It's the only way we can get through this.

Wishing you all the best.

Syl
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Anne T

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QuoteSorry, I don't want to offend, but do people in this day and age really think that? Are there still 'female roles' and 'male roles'? In our relationship we've always taken equal responsibility around the house - he's tidier and more organised than me in any case.
[/ he is getting the 'woman with benefits' deal here, as I've said, he really hasn't changed as a person at all since starting hormones, other than grown a pair of tits!  I love to see you taking it with such humour - we do too. I take the micky out of him quite often, and we often laugh about things together. It's the only way we can get through.

Wishing you all the best.

Syl
Hi Syl......I'm much older probably than you. I grew up with traditional roles. Truthfully almost all my friends also have traditional roles in there marriages. I'm not talking about like in the "Fathers Knows Best" tv show where the woman caters to the man by having dinner on the table when he walks in the door. Every marriage has its gives and takes on how the family dynamics work for them. I'm just sharing the changes that are taking place in my family dynamic.    So far there has been positive changes and some that require compromises on both our parts. This is not an easy journey for either of us. Yet I believe a humor and a positive attitude does help.   
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
                                                       ~John Lennon
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Sylvia

Hi Ann, I'm 60, he's 63! But we are not married - we've been together nearly 30 years though. We both had marriages before. I have 4 children, 2 with him. To all intents and purposes we are married, just don't have the certificate! We both work, we're both self-employed/freelance, so our roles have always been equal.

And I agree, if we didn't keep our sense of humour, I don't think I would have still been around by now. It has been without doubt the most unhappy I've ever been.

Much love xxx
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Faith

I left the door open, only a few came through. such is my life.

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