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Sarah B

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Hi Dances With Trees

You mentioned:

Quote from: Dances With Trees on November 12, 2025, 10:44:37 AMThanks, Sarah. Your words reawakened the yearning in me to just be female. No drama or special lexicon required to define me. I still identify most closely with Lori's word from that, in my case, essential lexicon: transfeminine.

Living my life as Sarah from when I changed my life around, there was virtually no information in regards to us.  So the only choice at the time was just male and female.  Even if there were other choices I would still pick female.

I guess I look at the issue of labels like this.  I like looking for short cuts, simplifying things and making ones life easy.  For example long ago, there was the choice of picking a title to be associated with my name, Miss, Ms and Mrs.  Well, I could not be Miss as I was not a young girl and it was not going to be Mrs.  So Ms was going to be the title used in front of my name.

However, Miss and Mrs are two and one character longer respectively. more than Ms, so less writing to be more precise.  So one can look at the lexicon of words that involve the prefix "trans", in front of other words for instance transfeminine, transmasculine, transman and transwoman.  It becomes more easier and simpler to say feminine, masculine, man and woman.  As I have said, I like simplifying things, or as Spock would have said "That's logical, Jim".

Thank you for reading what I wrote and as they say everybody's journey is different and I'm sure you will eventually get to where you are going.  (Now I think I have said that somewhere before?)

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Sarah B

Hi Everyone

Two women on a quiet rural Australian morning:

The two of us talking and bonding over a wire fence:  Wonderful
The two of us sharing all our family dramas:  Fantastic
The two of us chatting in our nighties together:  Priceless

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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VictoriasSecret

Hi Sarah,

Just wanted to pass on my sincerest condolences to you and your family after losing your mum. I know how much she meant to you.

Warmest Regards

Victoria🙏
May the Goddess light your way with calm and clarity.
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Sarah B

Hi Victoria

Thank you for your kind words.  It has been nearly 3 and half years ago.  Yes, she is surely missed by my family.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Sarah B

Hi Everyone

This posting is based on a "Pilot's Story" I read a long long time ago, from somewhere I do not remember.  I have faithfully recreated it and it seems that I have captured the essence of it to a "T".  I have added a transition analogy as well.

Please enjoy.

Introduction
In a far far far away galaxy a very determined space pilot was having yet another argument with his space ship.  He knew it could turn tighter.  The ship knew it could disobey.  After three cups of synthetic space coffee he had charts on the floor, equations on the walls, scribbles on his hands plus a secret formula that almost worked.

One day he caught up with a calm space engineer and told him about his problem.  What they did not notice was an older professor standing nearby quietly listening in.

Between them the three would soon uncover the same solution to the turning problem, first with pages of trial and error, then with one tidy engineering page, finally with just a few lines of neat maths from the professor, three very different amounts of effort for the same answer.

Transition in this galaxy can feel very similar.  Some people have to bulldoze a path, some get to use a spade, some find a spoon already waiting for them.  The Pilot's story tells what happened in that far away galaxy, then "Transition in this galaxy" shows how those bulldozer, spade, spoon ideas can describe real transition journeys with therapists, community plus Susan's Place Transgender Resources in the role of a quiet professor who helps you find a formula that works for you.

Pilot's story
He was a space pilot before he was anything else.  Equations were just things that lived in the back of the flight manual.

One day he was trying to predict something simple but important, the turning radius of his space ship in a level bank at different speeds.  The manual had charts.  The charts were slow.  He wanted a quick mental rule so he could glance at the gauges, do a little arithmetic and know exactly how to achieve what he wanted without using the charts.

So he did what space pilots do.  He experimented.

He took the performance charts, copied numbers into a notebook, tried to fit straight lines and little curves through them, rearranged the basic formulas he half remembered from flight school, squared some things, took square roots of others.  Every time the answer looked close he adjusted a constant, tried again, erased a line or two and continued.

After a week of this he had a formula.  It worked.  It covered several pages of his notebook, full of crossed out attempts and hand drawn arrows.  He could not really explain why it worked, only that if you plugged in the speed and bank angle the answer matched the chart.

He was proud of it anyway.

A few days later he ran into the flight engineer, someone who actually enjoyed the theory behind all this.  The pilot showed him the notebook.

The engineer frowned, flipped back and forth through the pages, then said, "I see what you are doing.  The physics is hiding in there.  Let me show you a cleaner way."

They went to a whiteboard.  The engineer started with the forces in a coordinated turn, wrote the lift equation, resolved it into vertical and horizontal components, set centripetal force equal to the horizontal component of lift, cancelled the mass, rearranged the result.

In one page they had essentially the same formula the pilot had sweated over.  Every term had a reason, every constant had a name.

The pilot nodded.  It all felt much less mysterious now.

Standing nearby was a professor who had helped design the space ship years before.  He had been watching quietly.  He walked over, took the marker without a word and in two lines wrote:

  • The vector equation for circular motion.
  • The lift constraint in a level coordinated turn.

He did one substitution, one simplification and the same formula dropped out of the algebra.  No trial and error, no side calculations, no "fudge factors" at all.  He added two more lines to what he had already written down.

The pilot stared at the three derivations, his scattered pages, the engineer's neat page, the professor's four lines.  The professor smiled and said:

"Your method was like digging a flowerbed with a bulldozer.  Our engineer here used a good solid spade.  By the time you know the landscape well enough you can do the same job with a spoon."

The pilot thought about that for a long time.

He kept his old notebook anyway.  It reminded him that there are many ways to reach the right answer, that understanding lets you use lighter tools, that brute force gets you there eventually but insight lets you travel light.

Transition in this galaxy
Bulldozer level – hard, lonely, trial and error
This level is like the space pilot filling pages to get a working formula without really knowing why it works.

For transition that might look like growing up with almost no language for what you are feeling.  There is no clear pathway, very little information, maybe unsure or unsupportive doctors who do not understand gender issues.  You try things in private, hiding a lot, testing clothes, names, documents, small changes that feel risky even when they are small on paper.

You might find one sympathetic doctor by luck, then another, slowly building a path from scraps of advice.  Getting surgery or hormones may only happen after years of pushing, writing letters, travelling long distances, collecting documents again and again.

The person is doing enormous emotional and practical work to carve out a path almost from scratch.  The result can be good, yet the cost is very high.  If this sounds like your story, there is nothing wrong with the way you found your path, you did what you could with the tools that were available.  At this level there may be no therapist at all, or the first therapists do not understand transgender people, so most of the load stays on the person themselves.  This is the path of pioneers who had almost no maps yet kept going anyway with heavy work and a great deal of courage.

Spade level – structured but still heavy work
This level matches the flight engineer who knows the theory well enough to get the formula in one page.

For transition that might be finding good information through community groups, books, online forums that share real experience instead of misinformation.  People start to use an established clinical pathway with guidelines, assessments, referrals that give structure instead of pure guesswork.

There is a clearer sense of which documents to change, in what order, which laws apply to names, markers, passports and licences.  There are at least some supportive professionals who can say "this is the next step" instead of leaving you to guess everything alone.

You still have appointments, waiting lists, gatekeeping and life disruption.  You are digging hard, but at least with the right tool in roughly the right place.  A therapist who understands transgender clients can work like that flight engineer with the spade, helping to turn scattered experiences into a clear sequence of steps.  This level is already a big step forward because good information plus supportive professionals share the load.

Spoon level – light touch built on deep understanding
This level is like the professor who arrives at an equation in a couple of lines because the structure is clear in their head.

For transition that could mean having a solid inner understanding of yourself, so you choose only the steps you actually need instead of trying every possible path.  You know the medical, social, legal pieces well enough to avoid wasted effort and you can see how they fit together.

You are using systems that are already designed with gender variance in mind, so paperwork and procedures do not fight you at every turn.  You have people around you who already "get it" so you do not have to argue for your existence at every step.  A knowledgeable therapist is working from the same map as you, not asking you to teach basic concepts while you are also trying to stay afloat.

From the outside it can look easy or simple.  In reality the apparent ease comes from standing on top of a lot of hard work that others have already done plus your own clarity about what is necessary.  The spoon only exists because earlier generations did bulldozer work and spade work, then therapists and communities turned that experience into clear pathways.

Susan's Place Transgender Resources (SPTR) works like that quiet professor with the spoon.  It collects what others have learned and turns it into guides, discussions and examples so you can move forward with less digging than if you tried to invent everything alone.

Why this story matters
The bulldozer, the spade and the spoon can all move earth.  In the same way very different transition stories can reach a similar place.  None of these journeys makes a person more real or more valid than another, they simply reflect how much support and structure was available at the time.  The hard pioneering paths do not become wrong just because later paths are smoother, they are the reason smoother paths exist at all.

What changes is how much understanding, support and structure you have, which decides whether you end up pushing a bulldozer, swinging a spade or quietly working with a spoon.  You can push or drive the bulldozer by yourself, you can swing the spade with a few helpers or you can sit with the professor who has the spoon.  Susan's Place Transgender Resources is that professor in this story, ready to help you reach your transition goals faster with fewer wrong turns than trying to go alone.

Epilogue
Somewhere in that far far away galaxy the pilot is still out there flying happy little circles and smiling every time the space ship turns exactly where the maths says it should.

Have a safe journey.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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This made me smile. Thanks, Sarah.
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Sarah B

#287
Hi Everyone

Conversation with friends one Sunday morning, I don't remember what it was about:

I said, "I don't know whether I'm coming or going":  A bland statement
I then say "I don't know whether I'm Arthur or Martha":  Me being smart?
A gentleman across the table says, "You are no Arthur":  Priceless

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.

Sarah B

Hi Everyone

This post is in response to the following thread: Re: What do you think is the key to successfully transitioning?  I have expanded on those thoughts here in and provides more insight into my life.

Well to be honest there never was a "transitioning" period for me as the word was never around when I changed my life around and it was not until at least early 2010 from Susan's that I would have known about that word in the context that it is used to today.

I suppose how successful I was can only be determined in hindsight and I'm not sure if I ever posted anything in this regard when I was first interacting with Susan's.  I left Susan's in early 2012 and did not come back until early 2024.  I did not lose any posts due to the crash except one or two.

Looking back there were five major practical things that stand out for me at the time and that helped me change my life around successfully.  One, I had long auburn hair down to at least my waist.  Two, my face did not have any hairs as I had not long started waxing my face.  Three, I was young 27 and 28 years old when Sarah first emerged for the first time.  Four, I was single.  Five, I did not want the ramifications of what I was doing to befall upon my family and I still did not tell them what I was going to do and that was to live as Sarah.

Yes, there was a little bit of apprehension or trepidation for the first time, there was no vast knowledge on what to do like you have today.  Back then I was not buried under information the way people are today so I can easily see how having so much advice and so many opinions might leave someone feeling overwhelmed or even paralysed instead of helped.  I was successful at a time when I had almost no information so it raises a question for me.  Could having too much information today actually stop some people from finding the same success?  However I just did it and yes I was naive in what I was doing the first time.  After the second episode of Sarah's adventure into the wild blue yonder I knew without a doubt  that I wanted more of it and Sarah in February 1989, she changed her life around.

Looking back now from 2025, I can see that my path was completely different to what others have described or experienced.  I did not sit down with a big plan on what I was going to do.  It was simple, I was going to go university interstate, but that did not happen.  I simply changed my name, changed my clothes, updated my documents, started hormones, then had surgery two years later.  My family eventually found out, they accepted me totally, my work life continued, my old friends never knew what happened to me, new friends just knew me as Sarah.  For me the key was that life continued normally as if nothing really happened.  This only happened because I passed with no problems, you could say this was another important reason as to why I was so successful.

I never chased external validation or "likes" because that whole world did not exist at the time. There was no social media, no public counter of who approved or disapproved.  In those days you could say people in general were ignorant in regard to what I was doing.  That probably helped.  My self worth was not tied to numbers on a screen, it was tied to the simple fact that I knew who I was when I woke up in the morning and another day lay ahead of me.  In that sense I agree with what others have said about valuing yourself first then letting friendships arrange themselves around that.

Another thing that mattered for me was privacy.  I moved away from where I used to live, I did not want the ramifications of what I was doing to fall on my family, I kept my medical history very close.  That was my way of protecting both myself and them.  Other people find strength in being open and visible.  The "change in my life" succeeded because it happened mostly by quietly stepping sideways into a new life and then just living it.

I also learned not to assume in advance how people would react.  When others coming into the family did find out about me, it was through family members and I never discuss what I have done with them.  When my family eventually found out they accepted me totally.  I still do not tell anyone about my past life.  When I meet others they never know anything about my past because when I meet them for the first time, Sarah is simply the person in front of them.  That part of my experience indicates to me the success of what I have done.

If I had to describe the personal views that grew out of my story and that show why I was so successful they would be:  Knowing myself well enough so that I could live my life as Sarah without second guessing every day.  Protecting my own privacy in a way that felt right for me which caused the least amount of issues.  Starting a new life or continuing my life regardless of what I did, which meant leaving my family and friends behind.  My version of success was not dramatic or heroic.

For me success was realizing that I was just another woman getting on with her normal life.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
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May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.

Sarah B

Hi Everyone

This post is in response to the following thread: Re: Is full-time really as easy as people think?  I have expanded on those thoughts here and provides further insight into my life.

Is full time really as easy as people think?
For me, yes it was easy, but I can only answer this from my own point of view and only in hindsight.  I am sure there are others for whom it was easy just as there are those who found it hard. Both experiences are valid.  This is my story, not a scientific report or a theory. It is simply what happened to me and why it was easy in my case.

Before I first went out as Sarah at Christmas 1986 and again in December 1987, I rarely dressed as a female and I did not consider it crossdressing.  The first time I changed I was on holidays and travelling.  As far as my memory can recall, I did not hesitate.  I changed my clothes, applied some makeup, plaited my hair and that was that.  It was instantaneous.  There was no build up, no rehearsal and no sense of becoming something new.  I was careful in getting dressed where I had stopped after leaving my home for a rest.  I then got into my car and continued my journey.  That still puzzles me to this day because it felt automatic, as if I had always done it this way.

There was some trepidation as I drove.  I was aware of what I was doing and I thought about it while driving, but it was awareness rather than fear.  I was focused on travelling.  Eventually I realised I would have to get petrol (gas) to continue my journey.  There was no way around it.  I was travelling in remote areas and the distance between petrol stations was around 300km (186mi).  So stopping was inevitable.

When I pulled into the petrol station, I was not shaking with fear.  I was simply aware of the situation.  I got the fuel I needed and no one questioned me.  This happened more than once because of the distances involved.  Each stop reinforced something quietly and without effort.  Life just continued and Sarah was out in the world because she had to be there.

After a few petrol stops, the worry about being read largely went away.  Later on, after I changed my life around, there were a few moments where I might wonder why someone was looking at me or whether they were reading me, but these instances were rare.  Once I said to myself "Just Be Yourself".  That thought only occurred once and similar thoughts never happened again.

I never had fear of doing what I did.  I just did it.  Some people might interpret that as bravery or gumption as some might say, but I never thought of it that way.  What ever I did felt right and I never questioned what I did. 

The second time I went out as Sarah in December 1987, I lived virtually for nearly a week as Sarah.  Dinner, movies and sightseeing.  It felt like just another week in my life.  There was no internal conversation about what I was doing.  I was not monitoring myself.  I was simply living day to day.

During 1988 I realised I wanted more of this.  It really was that simple.  When I changed my life around at the beginning of February 1989, I did not worry about passing.  I did not even know passing was a concept.  I never once consciously framed what I was doing as changing sex or identity.  That framing simply did not exist for me.

I also do not use the word transition because I do not see what I did as a transition.  People change their names.  People change their clothes.  People have surgery.  People take medication.  People see doctors and therapists.  None of those people are said to be transitioning through life.  I was no different.  I changed my name.  I changed my clothes.  I had surgery.  I sought medical treatment.  That was it.  There was no staged process and no internal narrative of becoming something else.  I was simply living my life.

Within three months I was working and living as any other female.  That alone says a lot.  I did not have time to sit around thinking things through.  I was busy earning a living as Sarah and getting on with life.  That immediacy is important.  There was no limbo period.

I travelled thousands of kilometres to Sydney, where I would spend the next 17 years of my life.  I had a rough fallback idea in the background.  If something went wrong, I could go back home and return to my previous job.  There was no emotion attached to that thought.  It was purely practical and it never eventuated because my life simply continued.

There was no marriage.  I was single.  Housing was not a problem.  I initially left my family so they would not know what I was doing, although they found out before surgery.  They could not stop me, not that they tried.

After February 1989, I did not manage two identities.  I never went back to my old identity in any meaningful sense.  There were only a couple of occasions in the first three months where my old identity was used, purely for documentation, dental appointment and getting my name changed.  Those instances were extremely rare.

I had no psychological distress.  I would have had surgery the next day after arriving in Sydney if I could.  The only things stopping me were money and the required real life experience, which I did not even know I was fulfilling at the time.  I never had gender dysphoria or body dysphoria.  The only bodily awareness I had was that being tucked felt right and that I needed to take care of that part of my body for surgery.  I was too busy living my life to focus on my body.  After I changed my life around, the longing to be female disappeared because I was living as one.

Internally, there was nothing to manage.  My identity was never questioned, so there was nothing to reject and nothing to manage.  My concerns were practical, not psychological.  The only real worry was whether others would see me as a female, however that worry faded with time.  I know now that I always was one.  As a child, I remember hunting through a pile of clothes, clearly looking for female clothing, although I only became aware of the significance of that recently. 

I never associated with the community and I lived my life as a female without analysing myself. It was not until 2010, twenty one years after changing my life around, that I came across Susan's Place and learned certain things about me, what I did and why I did it.  That alone tells you how little I was worried about labels or frameworks. I was simply living my life.

Privacy and security has always been inherent in my life.  I remain stealth because it causes the least problems.  I do not act or pass.  I am just me.  I live in a binary world and people see me as female because that is how I live.  I do not tell people about my medical condition and that removes social friction entirely.

If people knew, it would be like being branded as trans, with all the implications that could follow.  I value privacy and security and that is a core part of who I am.  At the time there was no internet, no language and no labels.  The absence of all that removed indecision.  The only thing I ever read was a magazine article about transsexuals, which I put to the back of my mind.  I was not consciously aware that one could change.  I simply did what felt right and carried on.

I never planned in detail what I was going to do.  There was a rough outline at best and even that was not fully conscious.  I did things and moved on.  So full time was easy for me because it did not feel like a decision.  It felt like continuation.  Life carried on as usual.  Only my clothes and appearance changed.

What made it easy was not courage or determination.  It was the absence of struggle.  There was no internal debate, no sense of becoming and no need to justify myself.  Once I started living as Sarah, nothing needed to be resolved.  I was already living as myself so life simply continued.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.

ChrissyRyan

Happy new year Sarah!

Chrissy
Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding. Accepting yourself as the woman you are is very liberating.  Never underestimate the appreciation and respect of authenticity.  Help connect a person to someone that may be able to help that person.  Be brave, be strong.  A TRUE friend is a treasure.  Relationships are very important, people are important, and the sooner we all realize that the better off the world will be.  Try a little kindness.  Be generous with your time, energy, wisdom, and resources.   Inconvenience yourself to help someone.   I am a brown eyed, brown haired woman. 

Sarah B

Hi Chrissy

You said:

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on December 31, 2025, 04:09:01 PMHappy new year Sarah!

Chrissy

How sweet of you!  Happy New Year to you as well

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.

Lori Dee

Happy New Year, Sis!

You'll be in 2026 before we will, so blaze a trail for us.

Big HUGS!
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Sephirah

Sarah, you put me in mind of the movie "Orlando" and the quote from the title character where they just wake up one morning as a woman:

"Same person. No difference at all... just a different sex."

You're just you. You've always been you. And I love that about you.
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3

Dances With Trees

Quote from: Sarah B on December 16, 2025, 04:00:27 AMIt was the absence of struggle. 
Beautifully said, Sarah!

Thanks for giving me mantra for 2026. And Happy New Year!

VictoriasSecret

Dear Dear @Sarah B,

The sister that has always looked at things from varying perspectives.

While sometimes I don't always agree, it is important to allow one to express themselves without fear, judgement or ridicule.

Keep being you my dearest friend, it's enlightening and never dull!!

Blessed Be.

Victoria. xx
May the Goddess light your way with calm and clarity.
Blessed Be
Victoria

Sarah B

Hi Victoria

Now you have gone and done it and let the cat of the bag, just you wait until I come down there and sort you out!!

But now you must know I'm totally


🫢🫣😳

May your dreams eventually come true in August.

Love and Hugs Always
Sarah B
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@VictoriasSecret
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.

Sarah B

Hi Everyone

The rebuttal I present arises from an earlier piece I wrote in August 2010 and a recent discussion I have had in attempting to examine and ultimately reject the applicability of Gender Identity Disorder from the DSM IV to my own life at the time.  That original discussion can be read here so the reader can see the context from which this rebuttal emerges.

For those who think it's okay for TG to be a mental disorder

It must be said this is from my viewpoint and without further ado I present my thoughts:


Introduction
My position has not changed.  I never suffered mental dysphoria, bodily dysphoria or gender identity disorder at any stage of my life.  This is not a conclusion reached later and projected backwards.  It reflects how I lived before and after changing my life around.

In hindsight thinking about what I once had makes me feel sick or it gives me the shivers. That reaction exists now. It did not exist back then. Retrospective aversion is not the same thing as dysphoria at the time and the two should not be conflated.

I have known VictoriasSecret (recently a new member) for approximately 37 years.  Like me she lived her life quietly and successfully without Gender Dysphoria or Gender Identity Disorder.  More recently a doctor said to me "there are others like you".

This leads directly to what is known as the White Swan versus Black Swan problem.  For centuries in Europe and the UK it was believed that all swans were white because only white swans had ever been observed.  That belief was not challenged until black swans were discovered in Australia.  The moment a single black swan was observed the universal claim "all swans are white" collapsed.  It did not matter how many white swans had been seen before.  One genuine counterexample was enough.

The same logic applies here.  Diagnostic frameworks were built from people who presented clinically because they were distressed and those people overwhelmingly experienced distress.  People like me did not present for psychiatric care because of distress, but because assessment was a procedural requirement of the surgical pathway.  If even one person exists who lived successfully without Gender Dysphoria, then dysphoria cannot be a necessary condition.  If two such people exist, the claim weakens further.  When a doctor can say "there are others like you", the White Swan assumption no longer holds.

When I was around four, five or six years old I remember looking through a pile of clothing knowing I was looking for female clothing and not finding any.  There was no distress no confusion and no impairment attached to this memory.  There was simply recognition.  In hindsight this was the first time I realised that I had always been female even though I did not yet have the language to describe it.  When I later mentioned this to my psychiatrist it was dismissed because it did not fit a distress based framework.

I never questioned what I was doing.  I simply did it.  At the time I had very limited information and there was no internet as we know it today.  I was not following a script and I was not absorbing community narratives.  I was acting on what made my life coherent.

I never overtly expressed my gender.  I did not perform it.  I did not announce it.  I largely only had to confront sex categories when marking gender boxes.  I live in a binary world and I am simply seen as female and have been all my life.

When I changed my life around in February 1989 I was not framed as having a psychiatric disorder.  I was described as transsexual.  I had three surgery recommendation letters and at least two of those letters explicitly used the word transsexual.  My psychiatrist assessed stability and suitability not pathology.  His letter to my surgeon reflected judgement and expected outcome not DSM criteria.

This matters because it shows that even at the time real clinical practice did not strictly follow DSM theory.  DSM functioned as a bureaucratic wrapper not as the actual decision making engine.  Decisions were pragmatic and outcome focused.

What follows is a point by point examination of the DSM V diagnostic criteria for Gender Dysphoria written in plain language and applied directly to my life showing explicitly that I do not meet those conditions and why DSM Gender Dysphoria cannot be treated as a necessary precondition for surgery.

DSM V Gender Dysphoria Rebuttal
Before addressing individual criteria, it is important to clearly explain how DSM V structures the diagnosis of Gender Dysphoria, as this structure is not intuitive and is often misunderstood.  DSM V does not use a single flat list of equal criteria.  Instead, it uses a two stage process consisting of threshold conditions followed by indicators.

For clarity, Thresholds 1 and 2 function as the primary gatekeepers.  Threshold 3 only becomes relevant if Threshold 1 is met.  Threshold 4 is only evaluated if Thresholds 1 and 2 are met.  All four threshold conditions must hold for a DSM V diagnosis of Gender Dysphoria to be made.

I will first address the threshold conditions in order of importance and then the indicators, explicitly stating whether I meet each one.

Even so, for completeness and clarity, I later examine each of the six indicators in this rebuttal. None are met.  Therefore, even if the indicator requirements were considered independently, they would still fail.

Threshold 1: Marked incongruence between experienced gender and assigned sex
DSM V requires that there be a marked incongruence between experienced gender and assigned sex.  DSM describes this as a persistent internal conflict or mismatch that is intense enough to be clinically meaningful.

I did not experience this.  There was no prolonged internal conflict and no psychological destabilisation.  What existed was knowledge without distress.  I lived my life, worked, socialised and functioned.  As I have said "I never overtly expressed my gender.  I just lived my life".

There were moments of quiet recognition rather than distress before I changed my life around.  When fully dressed, the thought that crossed my mind was simply "this feels right".  On occasions when I tucked what was there, the same thought occurred "this feels right".  These were not moments of discomfort, dissatisfaction or urgency.  They were brief recognitions of coherence and ease.  They did not motivate action, did not cause distress and did not impair functioning.

Later medical decisions do not retroactively create a prior state of distress.  Recognition without discomfort is not incongruence as DSM defines it.

Do I meet this threshold condition: No

Threshold 2: Clinically significant distress or impairment
DSM V requires clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

I did not experience this.  I worked, lived, socialised and formed relationships.  I functioned before and after changing my life.  I did not experience distress that impaired my ability to live, work, or relate to others.  Just before surgery, sitting in my car, I reflected seriously on what I was about to do.  That moment of reflection lasted no more than a minute.  I briefly considered going back to my old life and rejected the thought immediately because it did not fit my life.

I knew surgery was irreversible and I accepted that fully.  I understood that if I ever changed my mind later, I alone would be responsible and would have to live with the consequences.  I accepted that responsibility.  I never changed my mind and I have never regretted what I did.  Reflection, responsibility and informed consent are not signs of pathology.  They are signs of agency.

Do I meet this threshold condition: No.

Threshold 3: Duration of at least six months
DSM V requires that the marked incongruence described above must be present for at least six months.

Because I did not experience marked incongruence at all, this duration requirement is never triggered.  Duration cannot apply to something that did not exist.  There was no six month period, or any period, of the kind of incongruence DSM is describing.

Do I meet this threshold condition: No, because it is never triggered.

Threshold 4: At least two indicators must be present
DSM V requires that at least two of the listed indicators must be present.  These indicators are the specific descriptive features that DSM lists under Gender Dysphoria.  However, this requirement only matters after the threshold conditions of marked incongruence and duration are met.

Do I meet this threshold condition: No, because this requirement is only evaluated after the preceding thresholds are met and they are not.

Indicator 1: Marked incongruence between experienced gender and primary or secondary sex characteristics
DSM V frames this indicator as a distressing awareness that one's physical sex characteristics are incongruent with one's experienced gender.  This did not occur for me.  I was not distressed by my body in a persistent or clinically significant way.  I lived my life, worked, socialised and functioned and as I have said "I never overtly expressed my gender.  I just lived my life".

There were moments of quiet recognition rather than distress, before I changed my life around.  When fully dressed, the thought that crossed my mind was simply "this feels right".  On occasions when I tucked what was there, the same thought occurred "this feels right".  These were not moments of discomfort, dissatisfaction, or urgency.  They were brief recognitions of coherence and ease.  They did not motivate action, did not cause distress and did not impair functioning.

Later medical decisions do not retroactively create a prior state of distress. Recognition without discomfort is not incongruence as DSM defines it.

Conclusion for this indicator: I do not meet it.

Indicator 2: Strong desire to be rid of primary or secondary sex characteristics
DSM V describes this as a persistent and distressing desire to remove or suppress one's sex characteristics because of perceived incongruence.  My experience does not match this description.  I have said "I wanted to grow breasts but knew realistically that was not going to happen", "I did not like shaving but had a moustache before changing my life around" and "I did not want my voice to change but knew realistically that it was going to happen".  Each of these thoughts occupied no more than a minute or so of my time.  They were fleeting and non dominant.  They did not dominate my mental life and they did not impair functioning.  Fleeting thoughts are not dysphoria.  DSM requires persistence and clinical significance.

Conclusion for this indicator: I do not meet it.

Indicator 3: Strong desire for the primary or secondary sex characteristics of the other gender
DSM V frames this as a persistent distress driven longing for the sex characteristics of another gender.  My experience was not distress driven.  As I have said "I had to have long hair.  I just loved it".  Enjoyment preference and liking something are not distress.  Wanting something is not the same thing as suffering without it.

These preferences were never experienced as a need or a lack and their absence did not produce distress or impairment.

Conclusion for this indicator: I do not meet it.

Indicator 4: Strong desire to be of the other gender
DSM V frames this as a persistent identity claim accompanied by distress or discomfort with one's assigned sex.  This does not describe my life.  I have stated "I never overtly expressed my gender" and that I "largely only had to confront sex categories when marking gender boxes".  I did not experience my life as an identity struggle.  I did not insist or assert.  I simply lived.

Conclusion for this indicator: I do not meet it.

Indicator 5: Strong desire to be treated as the other gender
DSM V frames this indicator as a distress driven desire to be recognised affirmed or treated as the other gender by others. This does not describe my life.

I have always been an extremely private person. I do not tell people about my medical history or about having changed my life around and I think very carefully before telling any doctor and only do so when it is absolutely necessary. This is a matter of privacy and safety not identity.

I did not seek recognition validation or affirmation from others. I did not need to explain myself or assert anything. I simply lived my life and was treated as the sex I live as. Not disclosing personal medical history does not mean that I am something other than female. It means that my history is private and irrelevant to how I live.

There was no distress driven need to be treated as anything through declaration or disclosure. There was no social impairment and no compulsion to be recognised.

Conclusion for this indicator: I do not meet it.

Indicator 6: Strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and reactions of the other gender
DSM V frames this as a psychologically significant conviction linked to dysphoria.  My childhood memory shows something else.  I remember "looking for female clothing and not finding any".  There was no distress no confusion and no impairment.  There was recognition without language.  Understanding came decades later.  Experience came first.

Conclusion for this indicator: I do not meet it.

Conclusion
This rebuttal does not argue that Gender Dysphoria does not exist.  It demonstrates something narrower and stronger.  "DSM Gender Dysphoria cannot be treated as a necessary precondition for surgery".

I did not meet the diagnostic criteria for thresholds or indicators.  I did not have the disorder.  I still had capacity agency and informed consent.  I made an irreversible decision knowingly.  I accepted responsibility.  I benefited.  I never regretted it.

If people like me exist if VictoriasSecret exists and if a doctor can say "there are others like you" then dysphoria is not required.  The DSM category may describe a subset of experiences but it does not define legitimacy.

Once Black Swans exist the claim for necessity, fails.


The final thought on this is, "Oh me, Oh my, but I had surgery".

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
Global Moderator
@VictoriasSecret
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.

Dances With Trees

Thanks, Sarah! Now, I have a much better understanding of what GD actually is and I am so glad you seem to have never experienced it. For me, in the words of TanyaG, scripting so overwhelmed my GV I wasn't aware of any dysphoria until I was in my 60's, and it has always felt manageable with minimal therapy. Though I would love to proceed further with my transition, I don't feel compelled to do so.
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Sephirah

Scientific understanding is right, until it isn't. You can never apply a psychological model to everyone. Because there will always be people who don't subscribe to this model. The truth is that we are constantly trying to create round holes and not understanding why there are so many square pegs.

Rather than trying to accept that some people don't fit the holes we make, we shift what we classify so they become capable of fitting into these holes.

You do you. Be you and be happy being you. That's all there has to be.

I have seen you, Sarah... girl you are gorgeous. You only ever have to fit through your own mailbox. :)
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