Susan's Place Logo
Main Menu

Val's Voyage

Started by Valerie.Val, May 19, 2026, 06:18:52 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Sephirah (+ 1 Hidden) and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Valerie.Val

@tgirlamg thanks so much for the encouragement, this means a lot <3

@Courtney G wow that's impressive, food for thought. My spouse is all aboard so no probs there.

It looks like I actually will have to transition after all.

Dawn Kellie

I'm to talk with my wife about transitioning. She has a very demanding job, every time I try and talk with her, her phone goes craz.

Gina P

  Welcome to Susan's Valerie. I also went through a life of shame and bias upbringing of 'boys don't do that!' Boys don't sit like that. Boys don't cry, and so on. Guilt and shame made me a very bitter man who hated himself and everyone else. Pretending to be normal and trying to fit in as a man never worked well for me. As many, I finally reached a tipping point. At 60 I started. One of the first things was, with hands shaking, nervous as all, I made a post on this site. Those first steps were filled with fear. As I did more and more it got easier. Now, being out full time almost 3 years, I can't imagine a life any other way.
  So good to have you here. There are a lot of great, caring people here. You have come to the right place.
🔗 [Link: wackypackagesforum.com]

Valerie.Val

@Dawn Kellie I hope you'll soon find a little peace to talk with her. Best of luck, girl!

@Gina P Thank you for the sweet welcome. Yes I'm so happy to have found this place, it is such an opposite of the toxic social media. It's so encouraging to hear that almost nobody regrets their decision, because I'm scared as hell.

What I also totally love is that I can *finally* talk to and be friends with other women without the danger of it being misinterpreted. In social situations it was expected that I talk with the other guys about football and other stuff that I really don't care a tiny bit about. I assume this is also an experience many of us share.

Dawn Kellie

Quote from: Valerie.Val on May 21, 2026, 08:24:09 AM@Dawn Kellie I hope you'll soon find a little peace to talk with her. Best of luck, girl!

@Gina P Thank you for the sweet welcome. Yes I'm so happy to have found this place, it is such an opposite of the toxic social media. It's so encouraging to hear that almost nobody regrets their decision, because I'm scared as hell.

What I also totally love is that I can *finally* talk to and be friends with other women without the danger of it being misinterpreted. In social situations it was expected that I talk with the other guys about football and other stuff that I really don't care a tiny bit about. I assume this is also an experience many of us share.

I've never been very "manly". I never could sit and watch a sports ball game drinking a beer and being one of the guys.
I've tried as it was expected and it never felt correct. I've always been the nerdy kind to begin with. I feel more comfortable being one of the girls. I've found so many people here i connect with.
SP has really opened my eyes.

Susan

Welcome, Val — and thank you for trusting us with something this tender so early in the knowing.

What you described — the truth hidden under thick layers of shame for a whole life, and then finally seeing it — is one of the most profound things a person can go through, and you said it beautifully. A lot of us know exactly that feeling: the strange mix of *how did I not see this* and *of course, it was always there.* Naming it, even just to yourself, even just two weeks ago, took real courage. However things unfold from here, you've already done the hardest part, which is telling yourself the truth.

I want to say something gently about the decision you've made to stay in the man role, and I want to be clear up front: it's your decision, and it's a legitimate one. People in your situation make exactly that choice for love of their families and the lives they've built, and there's no judgment here for it — none. You know your marriage, your family, and what you treasure better than anyone here ever could.

The only thing I'd offer — and offer lightly — is that you're two weeks into this. You don't have to have the rest of your life sorted right now. "Forever, no matter the personal cost" is a heavy thing to carry, and decisions made in the first rush of a realization this big have a way of staying open longer than they first feel. You're allowed to keep feeling your way. You're allowed to not know yet. And it isn't only ever a choice between "transition fully" and "live as a man forever and pay any cost" — there's a wide, quiet middle that a lot of people find their way into, made of small things shared honestly with the people they love, at whatever pace the marriage can hold. Where you land is entirely yours to discover. I just don't want you to feel locked into the heaviest version of it on day fourteen.

And because you used the words yourself — *the personal cost* — I'll just say this kindly: your wellbeing is part of the equation too. Not more important than the people you love, but not nothing, either. The folks here who've walked the staying-in-role path can tell you honestly what it costs and what makes it bearable, and that's worth hearing from people who've actually lived it rather than figuring it out alone.

Which brings me to what you came for. You'll find a lot of company here — members who've stayed in role for their families, members who realized late, spouses navigating exactly this with the people they love. Look through the boards on relationships and significant others, and the threads on coming to this later in life. Your people are here, in more than one configuration.

Take your time, Val. There's no schedule, no test, and no wrong pace. We're glad you found us.

Welcome home.
— Susan💜
Susan Larson
Founder
Susan's Place Transgender Resources

Help support this website and our community by Donating 🔗 [Link: paypal.com/paypalme/SusanElizabethLarson/] or Subscribing!

tammy753

I am new\returning too. So welcome!

Valerie.Val

Dear @Susan ,

thank you for your kind and gentle welcome. And yes, it indeed seems the burden is too heavy for me to carry after all. My lovely wife took it away from me and we're open to transition. She'll stick with me and I'm blessed.

However I'm so so scared of what's to come.

Val

Valerie.Val

Quote from: tammy753 on May 21, 2026, 08:38:25 PMI am new\returning too. So welcome!
Thank you Tammy - good we're here :) this place rocks

Dawn Kellie

Quote from: Valerie.Val on May 22, 2026, 12:50:59 AMThank you Tammy - good we're here :) this place rocks

Yes it does. SP has a lot of love and support. Keep growing and keep loving

tammy753

Quote from: Valerie.Val on May 22, 2026, 12:50:06 AMDear @Susan ,

thank you for your kind and gentle welcome. And yes, it indeed seems the burden is too heavy for me to carry after all. My lovely wife took it away from me and we're open to transition. She'll stick with me and I'm blessed.

However I'm so so scared of what's to come.

Val

I know I am not Susan but I would say get a therapist. I am emotionally and physically drained after a session but mine has helped so much. I was suicidal and was ashamed of being trans. I am still dealing with those issues but after 2 months I am so much better than I was before her. I still have a Tractor trailer full of issues to work through but I had walled off the parts of me that was Tammy like she was a prisoner.

Also My therapist had me start Journaling recently that has been an amazing outlet for my inner thoughts.

Please don't hide who you are like I did for 50 years. It is the biggest regret of my life that is now over half over.

Stottie Girl

Quote from: tammy753 on May 22, 2026, 09:42:44 AMI know I am not Susan but I would say get a therapist. I am emotionally and physically drained after a session but mine has helped so much. I was suicidal and was ashamed of being trans. I am still dealing with those issues but after 2 months I am so much better than I was before her. I still have a Tractor trailer full of issues to work through but I had walled off the parts of me that was Tammy like she was a prisoner.

Also My therapist had me start Journaling recently that has been an amazing outlet for my inner thoughts.

Please don't hide who you are like I did for 50 years. It is the biggest regret of my life that is now over half over.
I will second that, journaling is an excellent way to work though stuff. You don't need to do it every day but whenever I'm feeling stressed or upset, I will it write down and tell myself I will look back at it after a couple of hours to see if it is still affecting me. I often find that the act of closing the book has a way of re-setting my mind. More often than not I forget to look back!
A wise man once said don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, that way when you judge him you're a mile away and you have his shoes!

Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cozy, doesn't try it on - Billy Connolley

Dawn Kellie

I started therapy in the last few months. I find it helps me focus and look past issues at the same time. I wish I had done it a long time ago

Valerie.Val

Thank you sisters for your very valid advice. It's near impossible here to get a therapist, it'll be a matter of many months, but I am searching.

Yes, journaling helps me too. Crazy if I read back how much has happened in a month.

Today I was at table soccer night with my old friends, only some of them in the loop. It was a very stressful experience. Those were nights I used to enjoy in dude mode in the past, and now my old dude system tells me Val is just a fad. A fraud. This feels terrible 😞

Dawn Kellie

Quote from: Valerie.Val on May 22, 2026, 04:47:41 PMThank you sisters for your very valid advice. It's near impossible here to get a therapist, it'll be a matter of many months, but I am searching.

Yes, journaling helps me too. Crazy if I read back how much has happened in a month.

Today I was at table soccer night with my old friends, only some of them in the loop. It was a very stressful experience. Those were nights I used to enjoy in dude mode in the past, and now my old dude system tells me Val is just a fad. A fraud. This feels terrible 😞

I'm sorry that happened. It is very defeating. You can push through and just look for the love.

Courtney G

I'm guilty of being pragmatic and blunt to a fault, so please take these thoughts in the most gentle and supportive way you can:

This stuff is hard. It's really hard. You will likely have tearful moments, moments of despair during which you tell yourself "I can't do this; it's too hard." Moments during which you tell yourself that you're an impostor and a fraud. But you'll probably have moments of joy unlike anything you've felt before. And you'll think to yourself "I did it. I actually did it. I could have lived the rest of my life without being true to myself, but I chose the path of truth." Those are some amazing moments that make the pain worthwhile.

I'm just beyond happy to hear that your wife is supporting you through this. So many of us lose so much, so many go it alone. It wasn't always a picnic, but I managed to stay together with my partner through all of this so far and it has helped so much. Many couples find a stronger bond than they thought possible after going through this. I wish that for you.

🔗 [Link: tickerfactory.com]

Facial feminization surgery: March 4th, 2026

Valerie.Val

@Dawn Kellie thank you so much for your encouraging words *hugs*

@Courtney G dear Courtney, pragmatic and blunt is what I prefer, always. But I'm not used to it being put in words so gently and understanding. Thank you so much. This really gives me some hope. *hugs*

Stottie Girl

Quote from: Valerie.Val on May 22, 2026, 04:47:41 PMThank you sisters for your very valid advice. It's near impossible here to get a therapist, it'll be a matter of many months, but I am searching.

Yes, journaling helps me too. Crazy if I read back how much has happened in a month.

Today I was at table soccer night with my old friends, only some of them in the loop. It was a very stressful experience. Those were nights I used to enjoy in dude mode in the past, and now my old dude system tells me Val is just a fad. A fraud. This feels terrible 😞
Table football (I can't use the S word)? as in Subutteo or are you talking Foosball?

I have started to get to the point where dressing Male is starting to feel like cross dressing! I do not have any male friends left for reasons I won't go into here, but I don't think I would like to be in that environment anymore.
A wise man once said don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, that way when you judge him you're a mile away and you have his shoes!

Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cozy, doesn't try it on - Billy Connolley

Gina P

I wanted to chime in on the therapy topic. A 'good' therapist is beyond words. Mine helped me in ways I never would have thought. Encouraged me to step outside my comfort zone. Praised me on each accomplishment. He helped me deal with the guilt, depression and marital issues, to name a few. But you must find one that you are comfortable with and is versed in transitioning. There are online therapist if an in-person one is not available. They can help you deal with all the crazy thoughts and feeling that come along with being trans. I had to laugh, my wife used to call mine, my enabler! And yes she wasn't to keen on me transitioning, but we are still together. Its a bit rough at times but still together.
🔗 [Link: wackypackagesforum.com]

tammy753

Quote from: Gina P on May 23, 2026, 07:37:20 AMI wanted to chime in on the therapy topic. A 'good' therapist is beyond words. Mine helped me in ways I never would have thought. Encouraged me to step outside my comfort zone. Praised me on each accomplishment. He helped me deal with the guilt, depression and marital issues, to name a few. But you must find one that you are comfortable with and is versed in transitioning. There are online therapist if an in-person one is not available. They can help you deal with all the crazy thoughts and feeling that come along with being trans. I had to laugh, my wife used to call mine, my enabler! And yes she wasn't to keen on me transitioning, but we are still together. Its a bit rough at times but still together.

My Therapist is amazing and we have never had an in person session although she is pushing for one. One of my issues is Agoraphobia and Social Anxiety. If none are available locally go for online. Just having someone to talk to that you can share those super dark thoughts with is worth 100000 times the cost.