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Jillian-TG

Being married and then coming out as trans is exhausting.

I'm in my mid 50s and have been married for 30 years. We have 4 children (eldest is my step daughter in her mid 30s) and our youngest son is 18. So the kids are not children anymore. I have done my parental duty in cosplaying a man as they grew up so they could have a so-called "regular" upbringing with a male role model in the house. It was hard for me being a woman inside but forced to cosplay a man on the outside.

My wife has known about my female side since day one but she chalked it up to cross dressing rather than me being transgender - over 30 years ago there wasn't much focus on those topics like we have today.

The older I get and the more freedom I want (need?) the more she's realized that I am trans and it is far bigger than clothing. I've used the trans word several times now. She's been more tolerant than accepting. I've shared some of that with all of you before.

We had a very long and deep discussion yesterday about wants versus needs and how that plays out if I want to transition and come out of the closet as a trans woman. What was very clear to me is that she will NEVER support the idea of me "coming out" and living my true identity. The best she can offer is tolerance and compromise where I get small pockets of opportunity to travel as a woman when we go on cruises a few times a year (and generally not me being a woman fulltime on the cruises but just occasionally going out as a woman).

While I'm grateful that I don't have to sneak around her and she knows everything, I do hate living a double life and misrepresenting myself to the rest of the family and world.

It's a roller coaster because I've had seasons of huge hope where I genuinely thought she was going to "get it" and realize just how much my female personality connects 100% with everything she needs. But chats like yesterday is the bottom of the roller coaster where I'm reminded that I cannot be who I want to be and keep my marriage. It's a horrible choice.

Outside of the gender roles, we have a very good relationship and are like best friends.

Any decision feels like a lose-lose. I either gain my true identity and lifestyle that I want and need, but lose my wife & best friend, or I keep my wife & best friend and preserve the marriage but never get to live my truth.
Born XX and married to XY.
I am gender fluid but live primarily in male mode. My wife knows about my gender identity struggles and we are navigating how to come out and be more public about me being trans.

Finally Anna

My heart goes out to you! ❤️
I cannot find any words that will truly comfort, and being between a rock and a hard place puts a heavy mental load on things. Does it feel like a decision is needed, soon?
Out to self since March 5, 2026. My wife knows it all since June 23.
Integration ongoing. I'll cross the transition bridge when I get to it.

Lori Dee

Quote from: Jillian-TG on Yesterday at 06:16:41 AMOutside of the gender roles, we have a very good relationship and are like best friends.

Any decision feels like a lose-lose. I either gain my true identity and lifestyle that I want and need, but lose my wife & best friend, or I keep my wife & best friend and preserve the marriage but never get to live my truth.

Perhaps a discussion with her about this and her perspective is needed. Remember that there are two decisions to make here: yours and hers. Hopefully, a compromise that works for both of you can be made. But it must work both ways, or it doesn't work.

Remember that she has similar thoughts about this. She doesn't want to lose you anymore than you want to lose her. Her forbidding you to transition says more about her feelings on this. But what are her reasons? Often it is about worrying about being perceived as a gay woman; maybe she is not attracted to women and fears a loss of intimacy in the relationship. Maybe she is worried about what the neighbors, friends, and family will think about her or about you. These are all valid concerns that need to be addressed.

Our Significant Others Forum is full of stories of couples who have gone through this. For some, the transition was a deal-breaker, and they parted ways (sometimes remaining best friends). Others came to the realization that the underlying factor was true love. They stayed together because they truly loved each other enough to work through it.

Keep talking and having those open and honest discussions. Even if you agree to disagree and need to separate, you can both feel that it was an honest decision you agreed upon without hostility. By talking about it, you can figure out where the problems really are and work together to overcome them. You are going about this the right way by keeping her involved in the discussion.


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Jillian-TG

Quote from: Finally Anna on Yesterday at 07:20:21 AMMy heart goes out to you! ❤️
I cannot find any words that will truly comfort, and being between a rock and a hard place puts a heavy mental load on things. Does it feel like a decision is needed, soon?
No a decision isn't really needed... we've been on this roller coaster for a long time. The only positive is that a decision is being demanded anytime soon.
Born XX and married to XY.
I am gender fluid but live primarily in male mode. My wife knows about my gender identity struggles and we are navigating how to come out and be more public about me being trans.

Jillian-TG

Quote from: Lori Dee on Yesterday at 10:26:02 AMPerhaps a discussion with her about this and her perspective is needed. Remember that there are two decisions to make here: yours and hers. Hopefully, a compromise that works for both of you can be made. But it must work both ways, or it doesn't work.

Remember that she has similar thoughts about this. She doesn't want to lose you anymore than you want to lose her. Her forbidding you to transition says more about her feelings on this. But what are her reasons? Often it is about worrying about being perceived as a gay woman; maybe she is not attracted to women and fears a loss of intimacy in the relationship. Maybe she is worried about what the neighbors, friends, and family will think about her or about you. These are all valid concerns that need to be addressed.

Our Significant Others Forum is full of stories of couples who have gone through this. For some, the transition was a deal-breaker, and they parted ways (sometimes remaining best friends). Others came to the realization that the underlying factor was true love. They stayed together because they truly loved each other enough to work through it.

Keep talking and having those open and honest discussions. Even if you agree to disagree and need to separate, you can both feel that it was an honest decision you agreed upon without hostility. By talking about it, you can figure out where the problems really are and work together to overcome them. You are going about this the right way by keeping her involved in the discussion.



She's very concerned about how others will perceive her. She has mentioned that many times - especially the people from church. She is very concerned about creating an imagine of the perfect marriage and family. I have successful high profile job and we live comfortably financially. I understand that she enjoys the status and being on a pedestal. If I come out as trans then suddenly we aren't the perfect couple. She loses a lot in her opinion.

For sure we will continue our discussion and keeping the lines of communication open. I know nothing is impossible but if I'm realistic then I doubt she ever supports the idea of change.
Born XX and married to XY.
I am gender fluid but live primarily in male mode. My wife knows about my gender identity struggles and we are navigating how to come out and be more public about me being trans.

Lori Dee

The second-biggest difficulty we face during transition is managing others' perceptions of us.

The greatest difficulty is in how we perceive ourselves.

Because it is a learning process and everyone learns differently, it can be long and difficult. However, once you master your self-perception, it becomes easier to help others adjust theirs.

The more we care about how people see us, the more problems we have seeing ourselves.
We cannot force anyone to see things our way. Sometimes they will, and sometimes they won't. The hopeful news is that some who won't may change their minds later.
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KristaFairchild

Two decisions, yours and hers. What Lori said resonates with me. 

Having a fearful gatekeeper does, too. 

Except I was my own gatekeeper and no decision was made. I ever so gradually socially transitioned without having The Talk with my wife. When we did talk, I was in denial myself and expressed it as confusion. She, and the world, saw me expressing as male in 2022 to still being perceived as male today despite wearing only traditionally female clothes, makeup, necklaces, earrings, perfume, shoes, and painted nail. It frustrates me; my damn face and voice scream male. 

The good part is she had time to watch me change. At no point was there a sudden change. No decision. I think this helped her, my adult children, my friends, and my community. 

About six months ago it became more obvious to be that I'm trans. We did talk. It isn't certain she will stay with me, but her heart fully honors that everyone should be their true self. It's just harder when that person is her spouse. 

I value our marriage deeply but I have to finally be my authentic self. I started the patch a month ago. My final presentation step is wearing the wig you see in my profile pic daily. 

I often share my own experience more that offering advice, but here are ideas that could range from laughable to insightful. 

Also, I understand being known in the community. I taught for 29 years before taking a position where I became known as an education leader in the region and state. I see people who know me almost every time I walk down the street. I was terrified at each step. DANGLY earrings?! I would die. I would be run out of town. Instead, people ignored me or said "Nice earrings." 

Ideas...

1. Steadily grow your public look at the rate you need without making announcements. I don't know how you present now, but add a little something every week or two. Nail polish: none to transparent pink to neutral opaque to a subtle color to as bright as you want. No makeup to just blurring serum to very light matching foundation to light blush to slightly more defined brows to one stroke of brown mascara to natural lipstick. I was shocked how people adjusted. Almost no one said anything.
2. I love that you dress up when you go out of town. This really helped me. I planned outfits for my next trip with joy and obsession. I added elements I felt I couldn't wear at home or work. 
3. Find safe spaces. I started attending a local meeting called Genderquest on Thursday nights. I dressed as I did for work or home at first. I live in a conservative Trump-supporting community and this meeting felt almost anonymous. Later, I would take my wig and forms in the car, change in the parking lot, and race into the meeting. Later still I would stroll past a dozen people, my head held high. I also found online Zoom meetings. 
3. Find safe people. Coworkers started complimenting me on my earrings and blouses and I realized They Knew. With terror in my heart, I hinted to them. We talked a little, then more. I showed one trusted coworker a photo of me fully dressed. I met up with people from Genderquest for a walk or lunch. They anchored me. Some were cheerleaders for my baby steps. 
4. Get specific gender therapy. I looked my therapist up online. I also worked the wonderful workbook, You and Your Gender Identity because I wanted privacy and frequent self-help. I carefully created an AI mode and used it for a journal. 

5. Be kind to yourself and listen to your body. 

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Finally Anna

Krista, that is a nice experience.

Not to kidnap Jillian's thread, but ain't that the truth - that we ourselves are probably our hardest gatekeepers. As long as there's no sudden explosion of change most people are actually quite oblivious, or indifferent, or perhaps curious, or even welcoming. Seldom will people be harshly judging. Sure, not all people are nice and accepting, but many more than we fear are actually ok with things.
Out to self since March 5, 2026. My wife knows it all since June 23.
Integration ongoing. I'll cross the transition bridge when I get to it.
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