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Sexist Transsexuals?

Started by Transguykid, August 23, 2006, 11:55:27 PM

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Transguykid

I've though about this a lot, and I realize that I'm pretty sexist against women sometimes! I always was, even when I identified as female. I would stay stuff like, "Girls can do anything boys can do!" but I really meant, "I can do anything boys can do!" and thought the rest of the girls were airhead pansies. Now, even though I get along with my female friends fine with my "exception to the rule" mentality, I find myself looking down at females in general. I ponder that maybe it's because they embody all the things I didn't/don't like about how I am/used to be? I know that this is something I'm going to have to overcome, but it's hard to even want to change my mind!

So the big question is:

Do you feel that you're sexist against your birth sex, even sometimes?
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Buffy

Hi Ethan,

I have always respected both men and women and we should cherish those differences.

However, being born male (and now female), I can't say I am sexist against men.

I pity them for one as men these days are struggling to come to terms with their changing role in society, no longer the main bread winner provider in a lot of relationships.

I also now fully see how selfish and self centred they can be at times (and how condescending they are to women) and how they can have everything they want in relationships... but continually screw them up by immature behaviour.

But sexism is a word that I wouldn't use in the context of how I feel....I can think of lots of others though.

Buffy



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Nero

I've heard a lot of MTFs make sexist remarks about men.
The thing that really gets my blood pressure up, is FTMs who make sexist remarks about men.
And believe me, it's common. I can't stand hearing everything blamed on "the patriarchy" as if men are the worst creatures on earth.
Some FTMs talk about how much they hate men, how men are so horrible, and I just don't get it.

I'd like to think I'm not sexist, but there are some things...the biggest is when I see a 5' 100lb. female patrol cop. All I can think is that she's in danger. If she tries to pinch a guy with a couple years over his head, he's going to drop her with one blow long before backup arrives.
It's dangerous for male cops, doubly so for female cops, and that bothers me.
I don't think women should be put in danger even if they want to be.
Maybe that's sexist, I don't know.

Nero
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Mario

Ethan,
    I grew up in the 70's and 80's, and as a female athelete and a damn good one I was the first to say "girls can do anything boys can do" I still believe that to a point. But as an adult, we know men are just physically stronger. Usually. That bugs me. Like Nero said about the female cop. That is true. The only "sextist thing I feel about women now and always have is their driving! Too bust putting on make up or blabing. Not that their are not bad men drivers too ;)

                                            Marco
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LynnER

Ummmmmmmm......... Im kinda guilty on that one........ I dont think its true sexist but then again who likes to think of themselves in the wrong.....

I know when my bandmates, father, brother, uncles, cosins, co workers, or random people at random places do something stupid, or unfeeling, inconsidorate or anoying I'll roll my eyes and say "men"      *shrugs*

Sorry..........
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Nero

Quote from: LynnER on August 24, 2006, 12:55:30 AM
Ummmmmmmm......... Im kinda guilty on that one........ I dont think its true sexist but then again who likes to think of themselves in the wrong.....

I know when my bandmates, father, brother, uncles, cosins, co workers, or random people at random places do something stupid, or unfeeling, inconsidorate or anoying I'll roll my eyes and say "men"      *shrugs*

Sorry..........
That's not sexist, honey. Sexist is when a woman (or in some cases FTM ::)) thinks: women = good people, men = bad people and is quite vocal about it.

Nero
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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LostInTime

I will admit that I can be at times.
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Melissa

I've noticed that since going fulltime, my general view of men has changed.  Maybe it's because they treat me differently now or maybe I don't despise having to dress like one.  However, it's much easier to see men in a good light.  I imagine this will continue to change. 

However, when I see one of those trucks that's so big it takes up 2 highway lanes (like a Ford F950) and the person in driving in a rude manner, I've noticed it's usually a man and I find myself going "Of course, it's a man. ::)".

Melissa
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nonie

Ahhh...  yeah, I hate to say it, since I was raised by such a staunch feminist, but I do something get really really annoyed at the stubbron assumed behaviors of some women.  Though I guess I do with men too.  They have just as narrow, if not worse, stereotypes to conform to than women.  I've juat always been so so fascinated by them that I guess I'd forgive them quicker than I would a girl.  And women have a lot of wiggle room that men don't, like how tomboys are totally normal, even "cute" while guys aren't allowed the same leniency.  But it's only the really affectedly feminine or bitchy girls that I get annoyed with like that.

With my female friends I always took a somewhat dominating, leader role because they could be so passive that nothing would happen at all if I didn't initiate it.  But that probably has a lot to do with how intimidatingly assertive I can be - if I were friends with someone like me and I wasn't like I am, I'd probably let them do everything for me too.

Don't get me wrong though.  I love girls, I feel very comforted to be around them, I just don't feel as absolutely impassioned and challenged and *present* with them as I do with guys.
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Annwyn

#9
Totally, guys are jerks.  Women are shrews, and in general humans are just one screewd up species!
BUT, gotta love them anyways!
As a transsexual, I can do things most men can't, like walk on a rope because of my trained balance or  do flips from when I was a cheerleader.  I can also do all of those, "guy" things but usually just get disgusted and sneak off whenever some guy comes into work screaming about a football game. Women tend to be so critical of the tiniest things, like what people wear.  I mean, as longa s it covers you that's all that matters!(I know, you're thinking I'm going to be a HORRIBLE woman but oh well).  I think guys coudl all do with about 999999999999999999999999999 minutes of quiet time and have a brain monitor that electricutes them everytime they think of sex.  Both genders have all these invisble BARS, and LANES, and all this stuff which makes me want to take an invisible chainsaw to and VVVRRRRMMM get rid of it all!
BUT, I love being in drag and I also love feeling burn in my muscles, I guess I'm just messed up all around!
Point being: males and females are BOTH messed up!

Edit: profanity and incendiary comments - Nero    Edit:inappropriate comment- Marco
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Transguykid

Thanks for all you replies, everyone! I guess sexist is too strong of a word, but I can see how we can favor one gender or th other.

I guess when I meet a guy, he's cool until he proves me wrong, and with a woman/girl, they're basically guilty until proven innocent. Like Nonie said: guys get more wiggle room, and that especially true, unintentionally, in my mind.
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