Many Shall Be Offended

[heatherrose]

This is the problem with having a discussion about religion from behind a
monitor. It is impossible to see a persons body language or facial expression
as they present their side of the discussion. What I posted was not intended
as an attack against you, it was intended as a warning for you to be watchful
of "wolves in sheep's" clothing. I HAVE been where you are at! You might do
good to check your breastplate of righteousness and helmet of salvation at the
door next time, unless of course it is your intention, as possibly evidenced by
you last response toward Lisbeth, to do battle, fueled with the zeal of
a new convert, and slay we sinners with the sword of the spirit.

[Alicia Marie]

heatherrose,
  You are correct about the body language and such.
  There never has been any intent on attacking anyone. But, I have seen from the posts that even though the intent was to help a new convert I was attacked.
  I'm sorry if you don't think that someone should attempt to help another but that is exactly what the Lord commanded. Not to hide a candle under a bushel and such. But, let your light shine.
  Therefore, I do attempt to help those who are new converts regardless of their gender identity or sexual orientation..
  And, that is a far cry from how I used to post in times past.
  Personally, I would think that people would be happy that a "King James only" Christian would come out from among all those who use it judge and condemn and attempt to help a babe in Christ. Unfortunately, all I have seen is those who attempt to discredit the post and attack the poster. (from the majority anyway)
  May God bless,
  Frank

[heatherrose]

I do wish you peace and am glad the you have come to a place in your life
where you are comfortable with who you are. I truly do hope that this new
revelation as to the fact that you are not transgender remains to be true and
you can live happily ever after unlike myself who spent three solid years living
a lie within a suit of religious armour. For me, I didn't put the gun barrel in my
mouth (so to speak) until after I left the "Church" because "if I'm gonna end
up in hell, because I'm transgendered, I might as well get an express ticket"
I had a personal experience that saved me from taking my own life and
I have since found peace, out from under the condemning glare* of the
"Organized Religious". I hope that you have come to the same place.

*body language and facial expression

[tekla]

Besides, I find in-person discussions about religion and politics veer into misunderstanding as well.

Really, you find arguments, riots and wars to be 'misunderstandings'?

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
It's National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week.
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you.
It's only for a week, so have no fear.

The late, great Tom Lehrer.

[Alicia Marie]

heatherrose,
  I'm glad that you have found peace. That truly is terriffic.
  All I ask is that you please don't lump me together with those who harmed or discouraged you. The message of the gospel is the counsel of peace between man and God through faith in the offering of the body and blood of Jesus.
  Had I never felt transgendered I would probably have never understood the frustration, pain and daily agony of transgenders that were hit with the scriptures in a negative manner. But, because I have in a sense sat where they sat and been as them, or as Paul wrote, to the Jew been a Jew, I have decided to use the word of God to help instead of judge and condemn.
  In Proverbs it is written that life and death is in the power of the tongue.
  Too many preachers preach death when they take that which should glorify Jesus Christ and give a word of hope to his bride and twist it into some message of God's hatred or twist it into that which destroys the faith of new converts.
  I personally would rather speak and post life through the scriptures rather than death.
  Although many times my speech is crude and my posting style dispicable I still attempt to use it to give a word of hope. I figure that all things happen for a reason and since these things happened in my life I might as well use them to glorify God when I can and help strengthen those who may come here clinging to their faith as their only hope.
  Take care and may God bless,
  Frank

[heatherrose]

...well, unless being understood means having the body-language of an angry guy who thinks he ought to be in-charge and able to "teach" everyone else. Now that body-language I used to see a lot of among MTFs!

What point are you trying to make with this statement?

[tekla]

I find in-person discussions about religion and politics veer into the conversational equivalent of nuclear war often followed by real-life slayings, both of individuals and of groups and usually not culminating until one group or the other has been totally exterminated from the face of the planet!

Much more accurate.

[heatherrose]

Nicole

Not really but then again, I am always looking for answers from those who are more learned than myself.

Frank

Was there a particular scripture or a revelation that you had that convinced you that you are not transgender?

[tekla]

Not really but then again, I am always looking for answers from those who are more learned than myself.

See, you don't need any body language, any tone or influctuation, or nuance to get that meaning.

[Alicia Marie]

heatherrose,
  No certain scripture.
  That which I feel I am not at liberty to share here. Some things are just too easily mocked.
  Take care,
  Frank