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Do you believe in ghosts?

Started by Nero, December 13, 2009, 04:52:22 PM

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Nero

Why or why not?

Do you think so-called 'hauntings' can be explained by some other phenomena? Or are they 'imprints' of souls departed?
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Janet_Girl

Not only do I believe in spiritual appreciations, I have wittiness them first hand.  Many will think I am smoking the wacky tobacy, but I have had experiences that would make the biggest man cry like a baby.

And when Heather see this thread, she will most likely post things she has show me on the net.



Blessed Be
Janet
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Miniar

I admit I do, primarily because I believe in the existence of souls and the "energy" it is made of.
I know of many of the logical arguments against it, and I accept fully I may be mistaken, but I do.

Mind you, I feel most hauntings are in fact just mundane things and/or "the expectation of a haunting" at play and not an actual disincarnated entity walking around.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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tiger

I've also experienced "things".

I lived in a haunted house for awhile. The "ghost" in the house was helpful and would sometimes play tricks The one outside was much more fighting.

I think some people are much more sensitive or open to feeling them.

I've been to New Orleans several times pre Katrina and that city is very haunted.
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V M

I've stayed in many places that were considered haunted. Mostly as a non-believer ready to de-bunk the claims

But after seeing, hearing and feeling various things, I'm not so ready to de-bunk

Actually, I believe I have met the murderers of these spirits.

It is said that the perp. will return to the scene of the crime. That at least I believe is true. 
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Lachlann

I do, but I don't want to at the same time. I guess I'm not sure what to believe and don't want to seem crazy.
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Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
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lisagurl

I do not believe in anything. Not God or magic,or hope, or destiny, or spirits, or hell, or afterlife, or faith, etc. I just know good planning gives you the best probability.
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LordKAT

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V M

The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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LordKAT

I knew you seemed like me somehow.



modified because that ghost emoticon doesn't show up.
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V M

Boooooogy Boooooogy........ Boo!!!


Dang!!! your right, the ghost emoticon doesn't show up
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Hannah

I do believe in spirits as conscious, individual entities. I've never met one like humans are, but I have encountered animal spirits and other creatures I can't explain.

We should remember that our brains are complicated biochemical machines and when we see something that is absolutely inconcievable to them they will actually add or remove sensory input to make it comprehensible. We could very well just be experiencing natural creatures or phenomenon that our brains just can't register so they create ghosts out of it.
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Luna!

Generally I keep an open mind with regards to things possibly existing.
But I don't 'believe' until I run into one. So, not at the moment.
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paxcow

I honestly don't know whether to believe in ghosts or not. I've experienced some odd things at the theater at my school and some of the things I saw or felt, others saw or felt too. So it would seem that yes, ghosts exist, but whether they are deceased people/animals, I have no idea. However, at the same time, it makes no sense to me that ghosts are real.

Though I do think a lot of paranormal experiences can be disproved rather easily. Unless there is another person to back the claim up, or if there is physical evidence, I don't believe it.
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jesse

ok my favorite subject (rubs hands together excitedly) Do i believe in Ghosts yeppers you bet ya. why seen one hope i never see anouther...scariest thing i ever saw. Almost made me pee myself and im a cop mind you. Since then done a lot of research on the subject Footprints of souls are not the same thing as Ghosts..... Footprints are like phenomina that keeps repeating itself. like the piano player at the hotel in colorado that has been seen a hundred times and photographed at least as many. A ghost is an enity of some kind or energy that can manifest itself in measurable ways even though the measuring devices can be called into question yet it seams to hold true at multiple locations. things like evps energy drain motion sensors other things can detect something there but it is always open to interpretation unless you yourself experience it. I usually dont tell my ghost story do to the fact few believe in ghosts and those who do dont need convincing and those who dont can never be convinced until it happens to them. i was once a doubter ive been cured of that...
jessica
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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Cindy

I'm a fully fledged professional scientist. Ph.D and calle Professor. (sadly not Prof Cindy)

I amd a very hard nosed scientist. I'm and editor for top journals; Including one with an impact factor of 12.

I was stone cold sober, I wasn't tired, I was alone and feeling really good. I was "baby sitting" a friends house. I watched the ties on the curtain undo themselves. They then retied themselves with an opposite knot. I wasn't scared, didn't feel threatened.

When I told the people who owned the house, nervously BTW. He & she said, happens all the time. We know the spirit has been, by checking the curtains in the morning. We never tell anyone so that we don't look like idiots.

Strange.
I've never explained it; could have been a trick but I don't know why. I didn't tell anyone until now; 15years later.


Strange place

Then again it made me :embarrassed: >:-)

Cindy

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tekla

Theaters are places of dreams made and broken and so would seem a natural for such things.  Though no one has ever spoken of a ghost at the Fillmore (where you would expect one) many people (who work at both) have had experience at the Warfield.  I've never seen it, but the people who tell me they have are otherwise pretty level-headed types.

First, down in the basement, during the 1920s there was a speakeasy.  Big one.  And I know people who have felt something vague 'reach out and touch them' or 'brush up against them' when they have walked through there.

I know of at least 3 people who claim to have seen the following also.  They were walking across the stage, and out of the corner of their eye they see someone sitting way high up in the balcony house right. Its a man, in kind of a 1930s (the Warfield was built in 1922) trenchcoat and fedora and he is smoking.  Now they only see it out of the corner of their eye, and so they turn to see it and he is gone, but the cigarette smoke is still hanging in the air.  One of them went up there and and they insist they smelled cigarette smoke when they got there (its a good 90 sec. to to minutes to get from the stage up there) and since there has not been indoor smoking in Cali for well over a decade now, its pretty distinctive.

But not knowing what it is does not make it supernatural, it only makes it something we don't yet know or can not yet explain.  Might well be a very natural deal at that.
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jesse

that is a good example of a foot print cindy the family is aware of it do to the fact it keeps repeating itself paranormal investigators believe this is memory imprint of a person who use to live in the house. perhaps the owner liked his/her curtains tied a certain way a history check may reveal who that person was but not likely as this is a mundane act unless someone still living remembers them being this fastidious im interested though as a scientist is their anyway to measure this kind of activity the amount of energy or force that would be required to unti and retie a curtain strap. What could be the source of power or energy to manipulate it? 100 doallar questions right... the one i say was a partial body apperition of a woman and child and it drained the energy from my scout car..???
jessica
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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Cindy

Interesting observation jesse and very valid. I may have a few questions for the physics dept tomorrow.

Very interesting, energy cannot be created or destroyed. So where did the energy come from? I didn't feel changed in anyway, I wasn't tired, or at least no more than usual. I totally guessing but I sort of think in the 10-20 joules or less? But to me there was no ghostly specter, just happening. WHICH needed energy as you point out.

Hate this sort of conversation but love it as well. Where does energy go? We have galaxys moving at the speed of light; where does the energy come from? I know the physics but ?


BTW Jesse you want to pm?

Cindy
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jesse

like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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