post operative neo vagina questions

[Elsa.G]

I had some questions about the post op vagina for anyone here who might know. A ts friend of mine who had srs a few yrs back and a surgeon who i recently consulted here in Colorado commented about these features of the neo vagina and i would like to know if they are facts.

1. The neo vagina has possible permanent symmetrical scarring on either side of the labia lips, where the testicles might have been removed if the person didn't already have a orchi and it might be hidden with pubic hair,
2. Neo vaginas will  have hair inside the introitus, or possibly inside of the vagina which happens because the back of the scrotum gets folded back that is only if the person receiving surgery did not have electrolysis to remove the hair.
3.Neo vaginas are positioned further away from the anus than a natural vagina, the surgery can change some of the distance but not that much. 
4. The fluid that comes from a neo vagina after a orgasm is male ejaculate that is secreted from the prostate and seminal vesicle.
So i just want to know if anyone has any idea about any of these questions thank u

[rejennyrated]

1. In theory yes - but you would be hard pressed to find any in mine. A good surgeon would take a lot of trouble to hide any scarring

2. A few might, most don't, because most surgeons remove the follicles, and/or ensure that their patients have removed it first.

3. That depends on the individual anatomy and the degree to which the person concerned had previous male development. Mine isn't, but then I was intersexed.

4. This is partly true - but then again it is'nt quite as simple as you suggest because these glands do morph under the influence of female hormones to become more similar in function to their female equivalents namely the skenes and bartholin glands. Besides I do not get fluid after orgasm - I get fluid when I am first getting turned on, just like any other woman. Although again I may not be entirely typical in this one.

I would say that your points are all partial truths and distortions probably designed to make people think that the results of surgery are rather worse than they actually are.

[Renate]

1. The two main incisions are not really specifically there because of having to get access to the testes.
It's more just a part of the surgery of rearranging the flap.
People are very variable in their scarring tendencies.
You might have to know exactly where to look to find any scars after a year or two.

[TraciMC]

Unfortunately I have a visible scar.  At least I can notice it easily.  It took a while for my GP to find it when I told her about it, but she found it.

[JulyaOrina]

I am curious about which Doc in Colorado...

[glaze]

Actually I saw the exact same uneducated statements in a post (in answer to a question) from yahoo answers, I'm pretty sure word-to-word,  from a very arrogant woman. I wonder if that person was the surgeon or your friend? 

1. Can't answer, it depends on the surgeon and the patient. Some people just don't scar much

2. I believe any of the top surgeons in practice required the patient to have electrolysis, or will have the follicles removed during surgery.

3. I don't think so. From the results I've seen, the placement is pretty much similar to GGs.

4. Being on hormones for a long time can chemically castrate a person, plus lets not forget no more testicles. So its not a male ejaculate. No logical way it can be.

[Muffins]

 1. The neo vagina has possible permanent symmetrical scarring on either side of the labia lips, where the testicles might have been removed if the person didn't already have a orchi and it might be hidden with pubic hair,

different surgeons, different patient reactions, different level of after care, time and many other factors determine this.

2. Neo vaginas will  have hair inside the introitus, or possibly inside of the vagina which happens because the back of the scrotum gets folded back that is only if the person receiving surgery did not have electrolysis to remove the hair.

Some surgeons require electrolyse before surgery and other surgeons will scrap out the hair follicles at the time of surgery. The idea is for hair regrown to not occur and these days the majority of the time there is zero hair that will grow where it shouldn't with improved techniques.


3.Neo vaginas are positioned further away from the anus than a natural vagina, the surgery can change some of the distance but not that much.

again depends on the surgeon used, there are two main common methods being used these days.. the pineal inversion (more common with US and UK surgeons) which has the opening sitting a little higher than what is natural and the flap method (more common with thailand surgeons) which is in a more natural position.


4. The fluid that comes from a neo vagina after a orgasm is male ejaculate that is secreted from the prostate and seminal vesicle.

During the pre-op stages of HRT the body changes from exposure to estrogen, the prostate shrinks and takes on the form that is closer to the Skene's glands which is essentially the female prostate. The changes will lower risk of prostate cancer (due mostly to the shrinkage) and make it function and produce fluid that is virtually identical to that of a natal female. It will have the same smell, taste and consistency. During surgery the skene's gland is repositioned to be in the same place as any other female.
The same action occurs in the cowpers gland which becomes the Bartholin's gland from hormone exposure. Though instead of having unique holes it's connected to come out of the urethra.. which is right next to it anyway.

[AbraCadabra]

Muffin,
very informative and to the point. Such a smart girl. Self always something more to learn.
Have a great day,
Axelle
PS: Good to know introitus be in "right" place, plus all the rest like urethra, etc. :-)
12 day to leave for Phuket.

[mm]

I don't how much you girls know about how much variation normal cis girls have in the their parts.  I relative position of the clitoris, vagina, etc vary alot.  I size of the labia also vary some have very small ones and some very long hanging parts down there.