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Another horrible day!

Started by drvotion86, June 20, 2011, 06:24:35 PM

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drvotion86

Ok so things with work havent changed, I was told that until i get my surgery i would be referred to as male. Today when i came in the manager that runs the call center left a note on my time clock. I sat in her office. She said that they have to go by what is on my ID. I tried to explain to her that it isnt right of her to do that atleast from what i know. If someone who might be new and not realize what i am and didnt like hearing that who is to say that they wont do something after work or something. She said it doesnt matter how you dress you are male, I could dress as a male and i would still be female -.-. I told her that you are not transgendered. At this point I am upset because she has this grin on her face like shes trying not to laugh in my face. So I told her im dont working here and walked out. I found my bf and told him what happen i am in tears. So he walked in and said i quit, She said OK! All happy she wanted to get rid of me and succeeded, My mom said i could probably take legal action. She said hostile work envirenment. Well just wanted to share my day and maybe see what i should do next.
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Melody Maia

Since you quit, I don't know if you will be able to take any legal action. You might try contacting the ACLU and see what they have to say. At the least I would contact the corporate offices and let them know how you were treated as an employee.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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drvotion86

Well it isnt a corporation, and they all laughed at me. They made me quit because of the way i was being treated.
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Melody Maia

Well, you can try contacting the ACLU, but I fear you might just have to chalk this one up to lesson learned and move on. It doesn't sound like it was a healthy place for you anyway. Go find someplace better and become everything you want to be. Success is the best revenge.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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drvotion86

It just sucks because people get away with this kind of thing, and they think they have a right to do this. Walmart said they would hire me back on because they know im good with customers and they said i could put danielle on my name badge so im going to apply and call HR and let them know so they can set me up with an interview.
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Melody Maia

Hon, I hope that is the worst that happens to you during your transition. It sucks. Bad. However, it sounds like you have another job lined up. I think you should count yourself lucky and it sounds like it will be a better situation. Only thing I can think of doing legally is contact the ACLU and see what their lawyers think.

If you are on FB, you might try letting all your friends know what is happening and hope it goes viral. Give the store a bad name. Maybe hope for something bigger to happen. Don't know if you are out to your friends though.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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drvotion86

Ya i have been pretty open about everything since i was in middle school. In 7th grade i walked up to my mom, Mom i like guys. Of course that didnt go well. My friends were pushing me to go full time anyways lol.
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Cindy

So sorry to hear this. The bigoted jerks would never have accepted you. They really are scum.
Please keep going, it's a set back and the future is still the future.

You have lots of friends here who will always be here for you

Cindy
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justmeinoz

Good riddance to bad rubbish! Sounds like it would have only got worse if you had stayed, so good assertive move on your part, and your BF also. He sounds like a good bloke and a keeper! Looking at your avatar, anyone who thinks you look like a guy needs glasses a white cane!

From what I have read here Walmart are a good mob to work for and very accepting of those of us who are a little more individual than most.

As they say, the best revenge is to have a great life.  Who knows, maybe one day you will be in a position to show them that what goes around, comes around.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Lee

My suggestion?  Become an IRS auditor and hope certain people are assigned to you. 
Seriously though, go be fabulous elsewhere.  It sounds like they don't deserve good people as employees anyways.
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Sephirah

If it were me, I would have looked at her ID, then straight in the eye, and said "So... if you have to go on what's on the ID... is it Miss Moron or Mrs?"

*hug* I hope you get something better out of this, hon, and you end up working with someone who isn't a complete muppet.
Natura nihil frustra facit.

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Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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Cindy

BTW your bf sounds gorgeous

Cindy
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Imadique

I don't know if you have the same protections we do in Australia (what she did would be actionable here) but if you can't hit back at them legally definitely register a complaint with everyone you can - employment and LGBT advocates etc. It would be nice to see them suffer some consequences if at all possible.
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spacial

Hi Danni. I'm sorry for this long response. I know what is happening here.

I really do understand your situation. You were being harrassed, bullied. The intention to personally humiliate you, simply to score points.

Now that you've left, they will spend a short time, wallowing in their victory. Their egos will be feeling good. Eventually they will forget about it and move on. Perhaps, at some later date, mentioning, in passing, that they once had, 'One of those people here'.

All I can say to you is what I eventually realised myself, in almost identical situations. You were on a no win situation. You didn't stand a chance.

By leaving, yes, you handed them a sort of victory, and by them I mean the manager plus, possibly a few of her close cohorts. But I can also say to you, from personal experience, that by trying to hold out, things would never imporve. You would be facing increasing harrassment every day. You would be contiunually hauled up for petty and exagerated matters. All designed to humiliate you.

You see, it was never about your job as such. That manager was quite happy to let you stay there while she had her fun. You were her whipping post. You were the fun at work. the little toy which made her dull life intersting. To demonstrate this, Imagine you had completely caved in and presented as a male. Do you honestly believe that that would have been the end of it? Do you seriously believe that it would never be mentioned, in passing, now and again?

I'm really sorry to sound so depressing and hopeless. But these are the realities. I've been there. Many times. You can hold out the first few times. Gradually, your personality and character get worn down, a bit more, each time, until you become nervous and insecure. You don't sleep. You stomach turns to fire. Your joints ache and you truely look forward to death.

The best advice I can offer is to set your standard, your line in the sand and refuse to cross it. If things get bad again, leave.

Pretty soon, people will be asking you to look at yourself. What is it that you are doing wrong? Why does the whole world, seemingly, have something against you and you are not at fault? The reality is, the whole world doesn't have anything against you at all. But bullies tend to get into top positons. They get there, because they are bullies.

You think you're the only victim. That is how all bullies operate. They make their victims feel completely alone. As if they are the only ones. But they have dozens of victims. Each one believes they are the only one.

There is the old argument that, Victims, look for bullies. A nice argument that makes sense. It also allows everyone, other than the victims, to sit back and not get involved. I have tried, in the past, standing up to bullies, on behalf of others. Big mistake. All you end up doing is moving yourself to the top of the list to be bullied.

Then there is the old chestnut. The greatest contribution from the psychology crowd in the entire 20th century. The excuse to cap all others. Paranoia. Because you think they are against you, you must be paranoid.

Garbage. I've seen paranoa when I worked in long stay mental hospitals. Calling you or I paranoid is like calling us stupid spastics. It is offensive and demonstrates that these people are simply looking for reasons to keep their fingers in their own backsides.

You see, the bullies are in charge. Almost everyone else is either a victim or a potential victim. And the last thing a potential victim wants is to be promoted to victim.

These are the realities of bullies and being bullied.

Ultimately, find some other way to earn a living. In my case I managed to aquire some marketable skills and the certificates to go with them and spend the rest of my working life doing casual work.
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Cindy

Yea,

I took it as an USA situation,  because in Aus land I would be suing the place for everything they owned and would win.  It is just against the law here. But not providing access to the correct gender bathroom
is against the law here. So the situation would not have developed. What company wants to lose a valuable employee?  Just because I can't be comfortable having a pee? Sounds daft.

Cindy
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Cindy

Spacial as ever puts wise words forward.

I agree with the bully system comments that she quoted, but I think it may also be on reverse. If she accepted you, she lost her male rights as a female in the job. Since she came down on a (hate the expression) TG MtF she was seen as
having balls. Yes this is a woman boss who takes no crap from men who are not real men, we will support her as one of the guys, pity she doesn't have a dick, then she could play golf with us.

These people are pathetic

Cindy.
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Hikari

I hope things work out for you, in theory my job has protections on sexual orientation and gender identity, but my state does not, furthermore being a "right to work" state, I could be fired for having bad teeth if an employer so desires.

I hope you can find a job that will protect you and value you for who you are, the human rights campaign keeps track of the major employers that do (and what sort of same-sex benefits, or trans insurance, etc) and I always prioritize my job search by employers that won't just fire me for being TG.

In fact, when asked why specifically I chose that place to apply to, I told them it was because they ranked so high on the HRC equality index, and they seemed quite pleased with that.

The sad thing about all this is, that it makes it scary to work for smaller employers who rarely have established policy on relation to TG/TS people, because unless your state has protections you are really at their mercy. This is why I would gladly move to another country if I had some legal protections there.
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Muffins

Some people just suck and they're everywhere... I think they're breeding? hhmmmm but yeah if you know of a place that is supportive to get you through transition then awesome! Just forget those jerks they're not worth your thoughts or time.

Personally I'm considering looking into a disability pension as the idea of working any time soon freaks me out too much. I just don't have the strength to deal with judgement and knowing everyone would be talking about me behind my back where ever I work. At least until I feel I'm ready.. if that day will ever come.
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drvotion86

im sure ill get another job. I am just worried atm because rent for my apt is due on the 1st and i have no money. So i am afraid ill be homeless.
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caitlin_adams

I'm going to get in before my union sister Tekla does (I've been a union member since I started work at 18, over 8 years ago).

Whilst the union is there to help members and as such may not help you in this case if you're not a member, they could well help you if anything like this or any other problems occur down the track at work.

We're stronger together and when there's a problem at work you're much more likely to solve it with the strength of multiple employees together as opposed to the vulnerability of the individual alone. Unions aren't perfect, but they work and they work to better the lives of working people who depend so much on having a decent job. Government isn't perfect, neither are unions, but we're much better off with government than without it and the same goes for unions.

I say to all those working people out there, join your union now. Unions fight for better wages and conditions in the workplace and can often help you when you have a problem. Don't wait until it's too late.

BTW Danni, I think you're just gorgeous and I really like you and I'm sorry for the way they treated you. Sorry for my little union spiel above. I hope it doesn't seem insensitive. I'm just a strong believer in the importance of trade and labor unions.
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