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Interesting conversation with my wife

Started by JessicaH, July 18, 2011, 08:56:54 AM

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JessicaH

I am away from home alot and you could almost say that we don't live together becasue I am usually ony home on weekends but sometimes not even then. I didn't go home this weekend because I was exhausted from a long week and I just couldn't bear the idea of driving 300 miles after getting off work at 5:30pm then driving back sunday night.

So, yesterday I was talking to her on video chat and she said something about her not having any make-up on becasue she hasn't left the house today and I joked that I didn't have any make-up on either. She laughed and said, "I hope not. You would look rediculous."  I joked back and said, "how do you know? I might look pretty good."  She said, "I don't think so. Some guys can pull it of but you are too masculine and don't have a single feminine feature and you would just look like a man in make-up!"

It was all I could do to keep from laughing out loud and asking her who she has been looking at for the last 20 years. It made me sad though because it means that she is going to be so blind sided when I tell her what's going on. It would be alot easier, I think, if she saw this in me but I think she is totally blind to it. I have to admit, it also kinda got me down hearing someone say that but she kinda meant it as a compliment, I guess. My friends that know what is going on are just blown away that she can't see the changes of the last 7 1/2 months and that she isn't asking serious questions. Either she is in total denial or I am but I think it is her. BTW, my avatar pic is a genuine pic of me with no makeup except on the lips and it was taken last week.
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justmeinoz

Oh dear.  It sounds like she is in total denial. I really don't know what to suggest other than joint sessions with a Gender Therapist to get past it.  That isn't going to be pleasant either,once the other shoe drops, by the sound of it.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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LilKittyCatZoey

i think its just denile hey because your face says girl not boy and she most probably has noticed  the change but refuses to accept it because she could be scared she will lose you

ps: your beautiful  :D :D
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Melody Maia

I wouldn't put much stock in what she said. I used to have similar "joke" conversations with my ex and she would say things like I would make a terrible looking girl. However, once I was out to her she would say I would pass quite easily and I've been told I'm cute.  Yes, she is most likely in denial, but that won't last forever.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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cynthialee

Not good.
A serious case of denial.
If she can not see the female traits and she has not noticed the changes then she is desperate to keep a male image of you in her mind. I am left wondering if she is pasteing an image of you as she see's you over the actual images her eyes are processing.
When you come out do it in a semi public area. She is going to flip out hard.

jmho
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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JessicaH

Quote from: cynthialee on July 18, 2011, 09:30:02 AM
Not good. A serious case of denial.
If she can not see the female traits and she has not noticed the changes then she is desperate to keep a male image of you in her mind. I am left wondering if she is pasteing an image of you as she see's you over the actual images her eyes are processing.
When you come out do it in a semi public area. She is going to flip out hard.jmho

Yes, she is going to flip. She is a hard person to talk to so I have always had a hard time really opening up to her which is sad after 19 years of marriage. I don't think she will turn violent or anything but she will have trouble processing this.

Quote from: LilKittyCatZoey on July 18, 2011, 09:05:25 AM
i think its just denile hey because your face says girl not boy and she most probably has noticed  the change but refuses to accept it because she could be scared she will lose you

ps: your beautiful  :D :D

Thank, that is very sweet of you!   :)
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AbraCadabra

We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are. Thinking of your wife.

I had/have close friends that were really and truly just blind to who I am. It's a sort of tunnel vision they suffer - and it happens a lot!

Once you come out, they tend to drop from one dizzy height and very much dislike you for destroying THEIR image of  you.
Usually more pronounced inside the family circle.

In my experience it takes the better part of a year for them to find some acceptance, in some cases they just refuse.

Been there, got the cap.... welcome to the creed.

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Tamaki

Quote from: Axélle on July 18, 2011, 09:49:55 AM
Once you come out, they tend to drop from one dizzy height and very much dislike you for destroying THEIR image of  you.
Usually more pronounced inside the family circle.

In my experience it takes the better part of a year for them to find some acceptance, in some cases they just refuse.

This has absolutely been my experience. It was a full year before my wife started to accept it and she still struggles. She even knew I cross dressed when we first met.

Good luck when you do decide to tell her.

By the way, I don't see a guy at all in your avatar, totally female.
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melissa42013

.........LOL
Jessica and I are BFF and talk all the time. From the first time she came to visit me I had people asking my wife, "What's the deal with him" (insert boy name)
....... It seems like whenever I am with her I end up getting outed too.... lol
Even my gay cousin who active in the community was shocked when I outed myself to him as TS but if I stand next to Jessica......
It was funny because the day Jessica took the pict on the avatar I was on video chat with her and pulled out my cell phone and changed her name from "Boy Name" to "Jessica" .........
So either your wife is trying to convince herself there are really "no monsters in the closet" or .........
-M


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Janet_Girl

Jessica,

Exactly how dark are those sunglasses she wear constantly?  Must be very very black.  If she can not see changes she is only lieing to herself.

My Ex hates to be around me.  It comes from a comment she made a long time ago.  "You would make an ugly woman."  But an ugly woman than a good looking man, I say.

But you have no problem there.   How is work taking the changes?

Like I have told you before, you are not far from RLE.

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JessicaH

Quote from: melissa42013 on July 18, 2011, 10:41:00 AM

Jessica and I are BFF and talk all the time. From the first time she came to visit me I had people asking my wife, "What's the deal with him" (insert boy name)
....... It seems like whenever I am with her I end up getting outed too.... lol
Even my gay cousin who active in the community was shocked when I outed myself to him as TS but if I stand next to Jessica......
It was funny because the day Jessica took the pict on the avatar I was on video chat with her and pulled out my cell phone and changed her name from "Boy Name" to "Jessica" .........
So either your wife is trying to convince herself there are really "no monsters in the closet" or .........
-M
LOL, the funniest thing was when your neighbors came over for dinner and we didn't know that your wife had outed us both to them and we were making subtle trans jokes that no one would pick up on but THEY did! lol  Then your wife let me think I got you outed to the neighbors til she came clean about telling them. I was a little upset that she did that and let me think that but I got over it quick. She is hard to stay mad at...lol.

Quote from: Irish Janet on July 18, 2011, 10:49:02 AM
Jessica,

Exactly how dark are those sunglasses she wear constantly?  Must be very very black.  If she can not see changes she is only lieing to herself.

My Ex hates to be around me.  It comes from a comment she made a long time ago.  "You would make an ugly woman."  But an ugly woman than a good looking man, I say.

But you have no problem there.   How is work taking the changes?

Like I have told you before, you are not far from RLE.



Aww..., thanks! I do still have a ways from full time but I'm not going to rush it and make it difficult. I need a lot more work on my voice and still have way too much muscle bulk to look convincing. As far as work goes, I don't think they know what to think. They are thrown off by my longer hair and I'm surprised my boss hasn't asked when I was getting a haircut.

It seems that some of the blue collar employees (redneck guys in the shop) sense something more and probably think I'm going gay or something. There have been a few jokes said out loud but so far I just laugh and say "f*** you, jackass" and play it off.

One thing I have noticed about myself is I find myself avoiding people all together. Especially, people I know or those from the past. I was in Sams Club the other day and saw a man that used to be a father figure to me. A year ago, I would have went right up and started talking and we probably would have exchanged a hug but I played like I didn't see him and walked on by. I don't know if he saw me but I left the store and didn't look back. I'm actually thinking about slowly culling most of my Facebook friends from "his" site. Most are peole I don't really care to see again anyways.
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tekla

Remember, if you blind-side her one day and just up and out with all of this, don't be surprised when she blind-sides you with the best divorce lawyer you've ever seen and you'll be lucky to walk away with the clothes on your back.

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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LilKittyCatZoey

Quote from: tekla on July 18, 2011, 11:28:14 AM
Remember, if you blind-side her one day and just up and out with all of this, don't be surprised when she blind-sides you with the best divorce lawyer you've ever seen and you'll be lucky to walk away with the clothes on your back.



Telka makes a true and sad point Jessica you got to consider that
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tekla

When you up and run off with 'the other woman' the one you leave behind gets everything.  Even when you're the other other women.  Maybe particularly in that case.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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LilKittyCatZoey

But we all know there is a chance you to can remain married but i think that needs well time and no giant shock when she discovers you wear a bra. I mean life isnt always unfair. :D :D :D
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tekla

Most of the guys I know (myself included) who lost everything in a divorce will tell you it's a bargain.  Divorces are expensive because for the most part they are worth it.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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JessicaH

She can have all the "stuff", if that's what it takes.  She would be wise to play nice as it would be in her better interest. By Texas law, I would owe her 25% of my net income for child support for two children and that would be capped at a maximum of $1,500 if I made over $6,000 a month. Now, I don't want her or the children to have to move becasue they can't afford to live in the same house so I would have no problem paying more than the 25% to make that happen but that will be my choice and I will make sure that she understands the implications of being extra nasty about things.
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LilKittyCatZoey

Quote from: JessicaH on July 18, 2011, 11:50:55 AM
She can have all the "stuff", if that's what it takes.  She would be wise to play nice as it would be in her better interest. By Texas law, I would owe her 25% of my net income for child support for two children and that would be capped at a maximum of $1,500 if I made over $6,000 a month. Now, I don't want her or the children to have to move becasue they can't afford to live in the same house so I would have no problem paying more than the 25% to make that happen but that will be my choice and I will make sure that she understands the implications of being extra nasty about things.

a girl with a plan brilliant!!!
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Melody Maia

Jessica,
Tekla does make a fair statement. I didn't start transition until after telling my ex. Even then it was a rough go as I wouldn't compromise on starting hormones which she wanted me to put off for some unspecified reason and length of time. She was also the first to know. When it does finally come time for you to tell her, she will be embarrassed that all these other people knew before she did and that you are well down the road. There really isn't any way to cushion that blow.

I don't want to scare you, but when time came for my ex to stand before the judge in Texas, the judge was very willing to give her more than what she was asking for because of all that she had been through. You will be seen as the bad-girl here and there will be consequences for your divorce if it comes to that. In my case, the fact that my ex and I were and still are friends went a long way to resolving things amicably.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



O
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tekla

she will be embarrassed utterly and totally publicly humiliated that all these other people knew before she did and that you are well down the road
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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