Orgasm, what's an orgasm?

[AbraCadabra]

Val,
how about a new thread: "Seek volunteers for sensuous massage"

Sure there'd be some fine offers :-)

Axelle

[xXRebeccaXx]

Orgasms are sexual energy being built up during sex and then it just releases and you mind goes blank for about 2 seconds, its just amazing!

[Suigeniris]

  :icon_giggle:OHHHH JULIE JULIE JULIE LOL LOL YES YES YES LOL!!!!!  except fot the 2 second thing last a little longer ))))))))

[AbraCadabra]

Watching again "Sex and the City" (part one), they go on about this magic "rabbit" , made in japan $900!, and find it woooooooooooow, - can't get enough of that good stuff.
This was pre 2000, it seems you just rediscovered that magic.

Can't wait to give that a try, in the series the one girl literally refuses to leave her bedroom, in want of more and more and more...

Now I have to do some stretches and chill.
Thanks for pointing it all out... heya
Axelle

[Suigeniris]

my BF keeps tellimg me the same thing , BE Careful because then no one will measure up , let it be a treat ))

[AbraCadabra]

Hi Val,
I'm sure a really nice bf (Mr. Big? Yummy) is more "exiting" but whether he be able to measure up?

In the series they even show the rabbit's action, this thing "doodling" about and doing all sorts of motions - nothing like your normal vibe-thingy.

Just saying, and hey whilst we wait for Mrs. Perfect it's just as well to stay in good practice --- please, who would want to argue about THAT.

Practice make perfect, no? :-)

Axelle
PS: US$900, I hope that price came down!

[Susan Kay]

So much high-tech proposed for such a low-tech procedure! But maybe ... afterall, in the meantime the low-tech still isn't working. * sigh *

But it is different; as a male, failure to launch was a major blow (should I re-word that?). Male ego and genital concentration I guess. So far it's really just a minor disappointment. The other night I asked myself, "If I never have one again, does that negate the importance and benefit of the change?" Self answered immediately, "NO!" Orgasm is orgasm, self is much, much, more!

But - I still wish ...

Susan Kay

[Suigeniris]

OH AXELLE DAHHHHHLIN Im with you lol lol no arguements here ms lady

[xXRebeccaXx]

:icon_giggle:OHHHH JULIE JULIE JULIE LOL LOL YES YES YES LOL!!!!!  except fot the 2 second thing last a little longer ))))))))

LOL ok

[Karynm8621]

I'm at about 4 1/2 months and I'm defenitly orgasmic BUT, and this is a BIG but! I'm learning that you need to find new triggers for it to happen and right now it takes a LOT longer to get there. Don't be to worried right now, It's not easy to do but it will happen for you

[Julie Marie]

Oh yeah, I remember orgasms.  They made your heart go OMFG!!!  But that was in another reality.  I had GRS 3/09 and since then I've had 4 orgasms - all in my dreams.  Not that I haven't tried while awake.  I have, many, many times.  But I've pretty much given up now.  I just wait for the next great dream.

[Julie Marie]

I'm seeing Brassard next Friday specifically for this problem. Will report back my findings.

In the "Consent For Surgery" Brassard had both Julie and I sign (and I'm pretty sure this has been and still is a standard form for him) it says,

"Therefore, I understand precisely, as this has been explained to me.

A - That it is an "apparent", "visible" sex change...
B - That the operation is absolutely irreversible...
C - That after the operation, I shall no longer be able to have masculine orgasm, the sexual satisfaction that I may obtain will be above all psychological;"

At least he's honest about orgasm.  An awful lot of girls go into this thinking they will be orgasmic, almost as if it's a guarantee.  But what we end up with is very different than what GGs have.  I know Bowers claimed in one of the documentaries featuring her "All my patients are orgasmic" but I know that's not true.  Some GRS surgeons skip over the details, probably because they don't want to get into what is effectively an unavoidable fact that is unsettling to most prospective patients.

If you can reach orgasm without the physical touch, you will orgasm after GRS.  If you need a lot of physical stimulation, you may never orgasm.  The bottom line is if the brain won't take the lead on this, orgasm is going to be difficult to achieve. 

[Taka]

i've a friend who can't get there without a passionate lover. i myself can force it in 5 min if i really want to, but it doesn't leave me much satisfied really, just slightly relieved. and there are women who've been married for years with a good sex life and kids, but have never experienced an orgasm. that's how different women are

no need to rush it if you feel ok waiting for it to happen at its own pace, but i don't think it's unhealthy to explore your body as much as possible. read some hentai or yaoi manga to get weird ideas to try out, i had much fun doing that, but unfortunately no lover to try some other things with

[Susan Kay]

I would think that females (GGs and TGs alike) respond totally differently mentally and emotionally to sexual stimulation. GGs start out learning about stimulation naturally and early and adapt and respond in most cases very well indeed! Us TGs have a learning curve to get over. Obviously every one of us has a different learning curve, from very short to infinity. We no longer can grab a handful of dinky and get there right away. I must use the Carnegie Hall approach: Practice - Practice - Practice. Accompanied by Patience - Patience - Patience. The non-existent option to go back to a dinky? OMG NO!!! NO, even if it was an option! NO!

Susan Kay

[FairyGirl]

That sounds exactly like my experience, a psychological satisfaction. Not orgasm per se as in a climax.

It's just a little frustrating to read all these girls going on about orgasms (sigh). Maybe it means different things to different people.

I think that is it Valerie, and mine are mostly psychological now- there IS a physical component, but it is NOT the reflexive, discharge inducing, all-at-once-then-it's-over "climax" type.  I have had only 2 of that type since my surgery 14 months ago, and to be honest I do not like them at all!  They are too stressful, My heart beats way too fast, it causes palpitations, and almost causes me to go into a full blown panic attack.  The ones I have now are the full-bodied, waves sweeping over me type, but much more enjoyable (to me) and much less physically stressful.  There is no discharge or exact point of climax.

In my past life I had sex with my first boyfriend at a very early age, and just never stopped after that.  When I finally got on the proper hormones, and then had surgery, it was such a blessed relief.   I was poisoned by a testosterone fueled male libido that raged so fiercely that it never, EVER gave me a minute's rest, yet all the sex with all the partners was never, ever enough to fill that longing- that incredible, gaping pit in my soul caused by my dysphoria.

Now I have found much better fulfillment in just being close and intimate with my beloved, and focusing on him.  If it so happened that I never had another orgasm of any type, it would be no great loss to me.  I love feeling him next to me, holding me, inside me, and all these things are just enough for me now.  The greatest thing is that I am at peace in my body and mind, and there is nothing more valuable to me than that.

[xXRebeccaXx]

Being told to masturbate "for medicinal purposes" FTW .

Orgasms are overrated.

[Taka]

Orgasms are overrated.

they really are. for most women i think communication and finding pleasure together is a lot more important. and few things, if any, have been more annoying to me during the act than a man insisting on making me get there when i really only want to see the satisfied look on his face before we fall asleep. there's no point in it if it's forced unless it's for medical reasons

[Susan Kay]

FairyGirl, that was lovely, completely lovely. If I can end up with something anywhere close to that then I will be so happy!

Susan Kay

[AbraCadabra]

Val,
I was just wondering, say you'd read some really nice juicy chick-lit novel (I read LOTS, so I KNOW) and then getting 'led there' --- it is then often UNAVOIDABLE that in some sort of "desperation" you start squeezing your thighs together, and then some more, and... ... ... whilst you read on, eh!

There comes a point, and you are not at all touching yourself, that your PC muscle (pelvic floor muscle) start WANTING to contract (Kegel exercise like). You go on like that and... see what happens.
Maybe not the first few time around, but hey.

So, I'm saying that seems to be far less connected to nerve bundles in the, say, the clit?

It is just that if not in a big O mood, there's at best only one very 'flat' or shallow O, as Taka also mentioned.
That BTW ALSO happens to natal guys too.

Axelle

[Padma]

Orgasms are overrated.

Hey, I was talking about masturbating, not orgasms per se - the journey has just as great scenery as the destination, if you travel slowly enough .