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HELP! Its torture!

Started by _Mango_, August 25, 2011, 07:47:42 PM

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_Mango_

I sort of have a difficult situation, and I was hoping to figure out how to cope with it... I find myself deeply attracted to homosexual males(on a larger scale than I am to heterosexual males).. and as of now I am still functioning as a "heterosexual female"... I haven't undergone any sort of therapy or hormone treatment, but recently my homosexual friend had tinkered with the idea of trying a relationship with me.. and it all came out again. I have been getting explicit fantasies and thoughts about him now and they will not stop, since the idea of a man that would accept certain things I have never been able to do to my past relationships before.... my sexual urges are getting almost unbearable.. however, I feel he may be waffling on the idea and its really confusing as hell.... since the idea of having what I honestly and truly desire was discussed, but then nothing else came from it. I don't even know what he meant by wanting to try a relationship with me (hes a virgin) Because if he wanted to marry, have kids, etc or something, I wouldn't know if I honestly could come through without hindering a very important piece of my happieness... (I am fairly certain I intend on going through with srs once I can afford to... but right now I have to deal with the fact that I can't be who I want to be (which depresses me) When i told him what was going on he sort of came off as ignorant and said it was silly... which really hurt my feelings. Now every once in awhile when I flirt with him, he makes it a point to say "you don't have the right parts" which is like a dagger to me... (sometimes I can muster up the courage to retort "there's shops for that") ....Maybe he is just confused about the whole concept, or maybe he is uncomfortable at the thought. But I have to remind him time and time again that his insensitive comments really hurt my feelings. But the worse part is, I have a sort of embarrassing problem that causes my genitals to constantly and quite easily be stimulated. So he doe's these things "normal" "females" wouldn't notice or care about, but I do, since I think much like a male... I act a lot like one. So when he does them it turns me on massively and he laughs at me when I holler at him to please stop... (bending over infront of me, making certain noises...) All this teasing really frusterates me and I have no idea what to do, especially since he is staying with me and I have to encounter him all hours of the day... Its just annoying how I have been pretty much left with nothing but discontent since I am constantly being aroused, and there is nothing being done about it (except the whole crossing legs knee over knee rocking method, yah i learned it from watching others, it works for me, lol) I snapped and called him a f*ing tease last night and he proceeded to make a very (to me at least) erotic noise, then just walked off into his room smirking when he saw me rocking my leg harder..) I really am at a loss of what to do... I had no idea that I would be descriminated against this way.... I don't know if its some sort of game that he is playing, or if he is just unsure of what to think..  Because I tell him to please stop certain things that trigger my urges and he makes it a point to constantly do them, whilst I have always done my best to not do that to him. (if he seriously asks me to stop saying or doing things I do, especially if it is making him aroused...) I know that gay men want "real" parts to "real" men, but when I explain how I feel that I am a man, I just kind of got gipped on my anatomy, and that making a point to point out my gender constantly is offensive, that he should be a little more considerate, he acts like its all a joke.. what do I do?
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Florian

Quote from: Caseyy on August 25, 2011, 11:25:11 PM
To be honest, I don't think he is worth it even though you're really attracted to him. He sounds like he is being very disrespectful and he's obviously hurting you. And also, there are a lot of gay cis men out there who can look past your genitals. I am sorry that you have to deal with all of this while coming out - you deserve to be receiving support from those you interact with and/or care for, and I really strongly encourage you to seek that out.

Seconded. You're absolutely right Caseyy.
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Hadrian

Quote from: Florian on August 26, 2011, 12:14:38 AM
Seconded. You're absolutely right Caseyy.

I agree with both Florian and  Caseyy. Your friend isn't listening to you or respected your wishes, and there ARE plenty of homosexual men out there that will accept you for you.
"You are who and what you are,
You like who and what you like,
You love who and what you love."
- Hadrian
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_Mango_

Quote from: Caseyy on August 25, 2011, 11:25:11 PM
To be honest, I don't think he is worth it even though you're really attracted to him. He sounds like he is being very disrespectful and he's obviously hurting you. And also, there are a lot of gay cis men out there who can look past your genitals. I am sorry that you have to deal with all of this while coming out - you deserve to be receiving support from those you interact with and/or care for, and I really strongly encourage you to seek that out.

Thanks, I totally agree... and I am glad to hear someone elses input..... Just earlier he called me because I made him go to a friends house so I can have space, and he has been trying to apologize... but i can't help but to still be hurt. I know part of his wrong approach may be just being naive, but I feel his throwing up my inadequetcies like he does has no excuse... I haven't come out to but maybe 3 people about this, and the last time I even spoke about it I was like 15.. So it coming up 13 yrs later was hard enough for me, considering I had to ignore it all that time because the lack of capable means of dealing with it and/or moving forward with it almost made me kill myself more than once. I now know better that I should not kill myself, but it still puts me in a deep state of depression when I think of what I am missing.. and becoming comfortable with engaging in sex with partners as my born identity is already hard enough...

I also think its because he may see it as a female trying to "convert" him (although he isn't even sexually active, and I wouldn't be deceptive to be his "first" like that) But in my heart and my mind, it isn't. I fantasize about the same things most gay men do, and I was excited when  this particular man expressed interest in me.. and I mean, I could just be acting too eager toward him (my commentaries, my mood swings, certain looking or glancing I do...) and the idea of having the kind of relationship I have always eagerly desired being brought up several occasions by an attractive male I have in my house all the time was kind of a lot to be excited about... lol..

I do know there are other people out there, and I don't intend on being stuck on this one if he can't do a little research and understand what I had said to him was extremely sensitive.... and that its in very poor taste to comment on negatively about it. A good example I am going to give him is how a man with a small penis is very insecure, imagine how a man who has no penis feels!
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_Mango_

...and honestly everyone, I am not sure if the hurtful or teasing things he does is entirely on purpose, but all it is doing is making me become extremely sexually frustrated.. and maybe his lack of sexual experience has something to do with it. I respectively held in all my serious feelings about attraction and desire i had toward him (we joke constantly of course)  and it was bearable until he spoke me with me about being interested, as well as a mutual friend (so I know it was honestly something he was considering) I know he has to own up to his actual comments of course, but again- this subject matter is probably completely new to him since hes from a very small town in Georgia, where just being gay was a very hush matter. I hope that since it has only been a few days that over time he will learn a little more about what exactly all this really means, and that it is totally not just some BS made up thing I came up with.. He often tells me to go get laid (by my heterosexual male partner(s)), but the problem is the things I am wanting most cannot and/or will not be possible with those particular males and that it  will not satisfy what I am seriously desiring to do. :-/

Again, I really do understand about other possibilities... but I would have to find that person first... and meanwhile I am lusting non stop for this man that is around me 24/7... and there's little to nothing that I can do about it...

PS: Is there any good reference sites I may be able to send him to so he may understand better?
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JohnAlex

I agree with everyone else here, so there's not much more I can add.   but I will add this, I think with his comments towards you about your downstairs parts...  I think I would make it clear to him that that is an off-limits topic and totally inappropriate to discuss with him.  If I was in your position, personally, I would feel a need for some boundaries.

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_Mango_

Quote from: JohnAlex on August 26, 2011, 01:32:56 AM
I agree with everyone else here, so there's not much more I can add.   but I will add this, I think with his comments towards you about your downstairs parts...  I think I would make it clear to him that that is an off-limits topic and totally inappropriate to discuss with him.  If I was in your position, personally, I would feel a need for some boundaries.

Oh, believe me, he got the look the first two times he said it... then the third I took him outdoors and proceeded to let him know that it is totally not ok with me to ever use my body parts (or lack thereof) to discriminate against me, and that if he continues with it, I will show him that although I was born with the wrong anatomy, that I can and will be ten times the man he is with what I'd do to his face. (although I do believe anyone can be just as violent as anyone else no matter their gender or orientation... and I don't really condone actual violence, but hey, if using a stereotype to get your point across is enough, I'll play that card)(especially since I am 5'6" and he is like 6'3" and he's definitely got a weight advantage on me!)

PS: most times just the look will make him cry... ;)
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