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Started by Florian, August 26, 2011, 12:09:24 AM

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Florian

I'm not sure if it is a social faux-pas to introduce oneself and then vent, but oh well.

First, HI! I'm Florian. I'm from Canada and I'm 18. Feel free to ask other questions.

Next, the rant:

Growing up, I was the "girly-est" thing ever. I loved pink, dolls, glitter, the little mermaid, make up, dresses, you name it.
I did more trad. "masculine" things... I liked wrestling and running around with my friends, watching hockey with my dad, as well as neutral things
like reading, video games etc.

I read stories trans-guys write about their childhoods, and 99% of the time I feel like I can't relate. I appreciate that they were tomboys, they refused to wear skirts etc etc and all of that stuff, but I wasn't. And that led me, for many years, to agonize over whether I was "really a guy" or not.

The first time I thought about being a guy I was around 3-5. I was lying on the floor in the bathroom (made sense when I was 3, lol) and it just occurred to me that boys and girls were different, and that I was a boy. But i felt confused too, because I liked to do "girl things" and I thought "boy things", like boy clothes and toys, were ugly or boring, and the way the boys my age acted was often very aggressive or just plain cruel.

The next time I really thought about it I was 6 or 7. I was watching a movie with my then best friend, a girl who lived across the back lane. We were watching "Phantom of the Paradise". For those that haven't seen it, it's basically a mash-up of the picture of dorian gray and a rock-n-roll version of phantom of the opera. I reccomend it, haha. ANYWAY, the main character Winslow is disfigured, and breaks into the paradise club and steals a costume to conceal himself. He wears black lipstick, a avian sort of silver helmet, an edward scissorhands-esque leather outfit, boots and a cape.

And my six year old self sees this and I think,
Sweet mother of God, that is beautiful. I want to be with him.. No, I want to be him.

I was abused as a child, and I kept my feelings as far from my mind as i possibly could. Including ones about gender.
I started to really notice the difference between myself and "other girls" in about third grade. Something had just... changed. I didn't know what
it was at the time. I just didn't fit with the girls or the boys. Later in elementary I found 2 girls I could be friends with. We were the "smart weirdos".

I started to become truly dysphoric after I got my period. When I was younger, I was really looking forward to puberty and having my body change. I was really uncomfortable when my chest started growing, and I wore baggy clothes to cover it up. When I finally hit puberty I realized. Oh God. This is all wrong. What came after was 6 years of mental toture, depression, self injury, abusive relationships and several failed attempts to communicate to my parents what I was going through. Now I'm trying to realize even someone that grows up the way I did can be a guy, because I'm a guy. That simple.

TL;DR: Do you ever question your identity/feel dysphoric looking back on yourself and any ways that you were feminine?
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Darrin Scott

Sorry no one seemed to respond.

I've seen this discussed here a few times and I don't think your childhood is 100% proof of how trans* you are. If you feel uncomfortable living life a a female then transition might be an option. Especially if these feelings have been persistent for a long time. The best thing to do would be to go see a gender therapist if you're able. He or she will be able to help you sort through this stuff better than anyone on the internet can.

To answer the question, yes, I do question my identity, but I'm taking it slow and just doing what is comfortable for me. I find it to be working quite well.





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~RoadToTrista~

I do in that I didn't exactly think I was a girl but I was feminine and did get jealous of other girls for being girls.

There's this girl I met in 6th grade. The first few weeks I thought she was a guy because of how much of a tomboy she was. She dresses in more feminine clothes now and her body's developed but I would still consider her a tomboy, and I'm certain she doesn't have any gender issues. Being feminine or masculine doesn't have anything to do with gender identity.
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JungianZoe

Quote from: Florian on August 26, 2011, 12:09:24 AM
The next time I really thought about it I was 6 or 7. I was watching a movie with my then best friend, a girl who lived across the back lane. We were watching "Phantom of the Paradise". For those that haven't seen it, it's basically a mash-up of the picture of dorian gray and a rock-n-roll version of phantom of the opera. I reccomend it, haha. ANYWAY, the main character Winslow is disfigured, and breaks into the paradise club and steals a costume to conceal himself. He wears black lipstick, a avian sort of silver helmet, an edward scissorhands-esque leather outfit, boots and a cape.

Whoa... I haven't met many people who know about that movie! ;D  But one of my favorite bands did a cover of the song "Old Souls" that was a really good interpretation of the Paul Williams original (which Jessica Harper sang in the movie).
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Florian

Quote from: Zoƫ Natasha on August 26, 2011, 03:53:48 PM
Whoa... I haven't met many people who know about that movie! ;D  But one of my favorite bands did a cover of the song "Old Souls" that was a really good interpretation of the Paul Williams original (which Jessica Harper sang in the movie).

Haha! I'm glad somebody knew what I was talking about.
Thanks for the replies, folks. I feel better about my experience knowing other people have felt the same way.
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420NEKO

Hi, Florian! :)

I can relate to what you said about going through puberty. Before it happened, I was so excited about it. Then, the first day I noticed my chest changing I cried and felt like I was stabbed in the heart. I never liked dressing girly, but my mom picked my clothes so I had no choice. ^_^; As soon as I could, I started wearing clothes that hid my curves. My body was always something I was ashamed about, but now that I am trying to perceive it as a male body that happens to be a little defective, I am alot happier.

Sorry, I rambled a bit. xD

As for your question; I have been thinking about my childhood alot lately, and I realized that it doesn't matter that I played with barbies sometimes, because most of the boys I knew also played with them. I remember being jealous that my brothers got all the cool toys for Christmas, and I had to get all the girly stuff. I know I did some very girly things, but I was born into a female body and raised as a female, so it's perfectly acceptable that I tried to fit into that role. I guess I don't worry about my past. I just look forward to my future of being the big flaming queen that I am! XD
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Florian

Quote from: .Alexander on August 26, 2011, 05:39:40 PM
Hi, Florian! :)

I can relate to what you said about going through puberty. Before it happened, I was so excited about it. Then, the first day I noticed my chest changing I cried and felt like I was stabbed in the heart. I never liked dressing girly, but my mom picked my clothes so I had no choice. ^_^; As soon as I could, I started wearing clothes that hid my curves. My body was always something I was ashamed about, but now that I am trying to perceive it as a male body that happens to be a little defective, I am alot happier.

Sorry, I rambled a bit. xD

As for your question; I have been thinking about my childhood alot lately, and I realized that it doesn't matter that I played with barbies sometimes, because most of the boys I knew also played with them. I remember being jealous that my brothers got all the cool toys for Christmas, and I had to get all the girly stuff. I know I did some very girly things, but I was born into a female body and raised as a female, so it's perfectly acceptable that I tried to fit into that role. I guess I don't worry about my past. I just look forward to my future of being the big flaming queen that I am! XD

THAT, is absolutely a brilliant way of looking at it  :)
Marilyn Manson was also my 6th grade crush haha. I wanted to be just like him, but with less of a coke problem :P
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N.Chaos

Quote from: Florian on August 26, 2011, 07:15:55 PM
THAT, is absolutely a brilliant way of looking at it  :)
Marilyn Manson was also my 6th grade crush haha. I wanted to be just like him, but with less of a coke problem :P

Mr. Manson will always be my #1 crush. And hero.

Anyway, I know how you feel to an extent, I wasn't horribly girly as a kid but I've always loved makeup, and dressing up in weird ->-bleeped-<-. Hell, I've spent most of the past week either sewing or cooking. I feel weird about it sometimes, feel kind of guilty, but mostly IDGAF. There's no end-all-be-all textbook definition of what makes someone a man.

I can totally relate to the pubery BS though. My chest decided to go into maximum overdrive right about 5th-6th grade, which got me a lot of unwanted attention in St.John's. I've hated the stupid things ever since.
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Vincent E.S.

When I was little I did plenty of girly things, although I never really liked the color pink. Growing up, I found that there are plenty of "feminine" things that I still enjoy. I love my fluffy, miniature dog.. I love cooking and baking.. I love sewing... Heck, just this last week I made a pillow, some spritz cookies, and a huge batch of snickerdoodles(which I gave to people on pink MyLittlePony plates)!
All of that made me confused about whether I was 'really' a guy. I finally realized that I am a guy; I'm just a somewhat flamboyant gay guy.  :laugh:
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420NEKO

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Marilyn Manson was also my 6th grade crush haha. I wanted to be just like him, but with less of a coke problem

Manson is amazing<3 He's the one that inspired me to start wearing makeup. lol
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