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Why do some MTF's act like gay men?

Started by JenJen2011, October 26, 2011, 12:52:00 PM

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JenJen2011

I use to be friends with another ts and I could never understand her behavior. All I know is that it reminded me of the way some gay men act.

For example, when we use to go out cruising in the car, she would roll down her window and start yelling at guys and say. "hey baby, i'm horny" or some sleazy comment like that. She was always VERY obnoxious and loud. Her mannerisms are also very exaggerated.

She flirts with almost every man she comes in contact with and has even performed oral sex to a complete stranger in front of a nightclub for the public to see.

The reason I compare her to some gay men is because I've seen a lot of them who act the same way. I don't understand how she expects people to view her as a woman acting the way she does.

What could it be?
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Bird

I think it is because different people behave differently. That is all.
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wheat thins are delicious

 I don't think that is acting like a gay man.  That is just how some people act, gay or straight, men or women.


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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: Bird on October 26, 2011, 12:58:45 PM
I think it is because different people behave differently. That is all.

I was about to say something, but this actually says everything I wanted to say, without the ire that it may have invoked in me.
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cynthialee

Sounds like one of my sisters.

Nope not a gay male thing. It is a problem with self esteem stemming from their perception of themselves as sexualy attractive and desireable being the only thing they can define themselves with.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 26, 2011, 12:52:00 PM
I use to be friends with another ts and I could never understand her behavior. All I know is that it reminded me of the way some gay men act.

For example, when we use to go out cruising in the car, she would roll down her window and start yelling at guys and say. "hey baby, i'm horny" or some sleazy comment like that. She was always VERY obnoxious and loud. Her mannerisms are also very exaggerated.

She flirts with almost every man she comes in contact with and has even performed oral sex to a complete stranger in front of a nightclub for the public to see.

The reason I compare her to some gay men is because I've seen a lot of them who act the same way. I don't understand how she expects people to view her as a woman acting the way she does.

What could it be?

Also, you're perpetuating the stereotype that gay men are promiscuous, which is not cool. 
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 26, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Also, you're perpetuating the stereotype that gay men are promiscuous, which is not cool.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble but SOME are. At least, SOME that I've met.
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 26, 2011, 01:11:07 PM
Well, sorry to burst your bubble but SOME are. At least, SOME that I've met.

And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the plural of anecdote is not 'data'.

Some people are promiscuous.  That doesn't mean that it's necessarily bad, and it definitely doesn't mean that we should compare them to an often-maligned oppressed minority.
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Amaranth

I have a feeling the original post would've sounded better with a few insertions of this word: "stereotypical"
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 26, 2011, 12:52:00 PM
I use to be friends with another ts and I could never understand her behavior. All I know is that it reminded me of the way some gay men act.


When I went to divas nightclub. There was this 40+, tootless TS there who solicited every guy that walked by her. Most of the men seem mortified.

I think because they think they can....
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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: Amaranth on October 26, 2011, 01:16:44 PM
I have a feeling the original post would've sounded better with a few insertions of this word: "stereotypical"

That's still an implicit sanction of stereotyping gay men as promiscuous, which is still wrong.

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amanda barber

Some people just can't behave in public.
Why equate it to acting like gay men?
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wheat thins are delicious

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 26, 2011, 01:11:07 PM
Well, sorry to burst your bubble but SOME are. At least, SOME that I've met.

So are some: gay women, straight women, straight men, bi women, bi men, pansexuals, etc. 


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eli77

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 26, 2011, 01:11:07 PM
Well, sorry to burst your bubble but SOME are. At least, SOME that I've met.

Some being the operative word.

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-straight-sex/   Scroll down to "Gay people aren't promiscuous."

Median Reported Sex Partners

    straight men: 6
    gay men: 6
    straight women: 6
    gay women: 6

Taken from a data set of 3.2 million people. Data is the plural of datum!
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Mahsa Tezani

I act like a campy gay man sometimes. Mainly to annoy my boyfriend and people who call the house.
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cynthialee

statisticaly speaking...Gay men have more sex than other demographic groups.
If we were to take the numbers and compare them to the averages....gay men are indeed much more promiscuous than the general populace.

And there is nothing wrong with anyone being sexualy active or promiscuous. The only thing really informing peoples decisions on who is promiscuous, is the amount of sex they themselves are getting.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Amaranth

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 26, 2011, 01:19:33 PM
That's still an implicit sanction of stereotyping gay men as promiscuous, which is still wrong.

Very true...but the inaccuracy of a stereotype doesn't take it out of existence.
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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: Amaranth on October 26, 2011, 01:34:34 PM
Very true...but the inaccuracy of a stereotype doesn't take it out of existence.

I mean, let's put it this way.  What if I were to start a thread this way: "Why does X group behave like stereotypical Hispanic people?"

Just because a stereotype exists doesn't mean that one should continue to use it.
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Amaranth

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 26, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
I mean, let's put it this way.  What if I were to start a thread this way: "Why does X group behave like stereotypical Hispanic people?"

Just because a stereotype exists doesn't mean that one should continue to use it.

Hm...point taken.  Perhaps I've been watching too much Family Guy.
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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: Amaranth on October 26, 2011, 01:46:23 PM
Hm...point taken.  Perhaps I've been watching too much Family Guy.

Don't get me wrong.  I'm all for subversive humor that mocks every class of people under the sun, as long as the mutual teasing is made in good fun and it's spread around equally to all kinds of people.

But this isn't a good-natured prod at gay men, and that's why I find it to be disconcerting.
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