"vagina"

[xxUltraModLadyxx]

How do you want to? Getting penetrated? Because if that's the case, you can use your ass for that, for now at least.

that is true, but it seems like it could be overwhelming if you don't know what it feels like. i didn't really think it was a real erogenous zone that would allow anyone to have sex that way. but, like i said. i'm a virgin, and i've only started masturbation 2 years ago. the concept of sex is pretty new and unexplored to me. your reply made me crack up a little at first, but i see what you mean.

[annette]

Fairygirl, you worked your magic in this post.

No magic Masha, just sience, you know the facts so well, don't you?
Well, maybe you should google evidence based medicine.
While you are doing that, take a look at embryology, you can find what's happend to your ovaries when you were in the uterus.
This is very refreshing stuff, special for you because you always want to know the facts, well, there is your chance.

[Elsa.G]

There is something called polymorphism where the organ changes over time to be exactly what it was constructed to be- a real vagina.  The tissue actually changes.  Here is an interesting article, with references you can check, that explains a little about this process (the emphasis is mine):
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How can a biologically male body imitate a vagina? it seems odd honestly. Even if a person with a neo vagina gets a vaginoplasty their body is still biologically male so how can a neo vagina start functioning as a real one? In other words how can a male body know how to make the neo vag work as a real one? it is an interesting article but it doesnt really answer my question about that. Also i dont believe every that every transwoman who gets srs is lucky enough to have that result after some time. Again that is my opinion since i dont have one yet, but if it worked as a real vagina entirely than i dont think it would require life long dilation. But very interesting article indeed!

[Maya Zimmerman]

that is true, but it seems like it could be overwhelming if you don't know what it feels like. i didn't really think it was a real erogenous zone that would allow anyone to have sex that way. but, like i said. i'm a virgin, and i've only started masturbation 2 years ago. the concept of sex is pretty new and unexplored to me. your reply made me crack up a little at first, but i see what you mean.

Actually, it's an especially erogenous zone in people with a male prostate.  It can be a little painful at first and it's not always the cleanest part of your body, but yeah, it's really, really, really nice.  You could always get a toy if you're nervous about having sex with a man.  That or your fingers (but make sure you trim your nails!!!).

[Felix]

I don't have a prostate, but I use my ass for that all the time. I don't have a lot of bottom dysphoria, either, so I'm not just avoiding "female" bits. In my experience, anal sex is an acquired taste just like beer or coffee. Kinda repellent to begin with, but it's got it's subtleties, and there's nothing else like it. 

I use enemas and general cleanliness to insure that it's not a traumatically dagnasty experience, though. No santorum on my sheets.

Whether JenJen's comment was serious or facetious, she has a point. Penetration is nice and doable no matter what your body situation is.

[Joandelynn]

Even if a person with a neo vagina gets a vaginoplasty their body is still biologically male so how can a neo vagina start functioning as a real one?

When you start female hormones, your body stops being 'biologically male'. From there on, your body is producing the exact same cells that a female would produce, and it starts to function as a female body.

This is why your skin changes, the hormones tell your body to develop a 'female skin' instead of a 'male skin'. This is also why you are getting breasts. And this is also how your body knows what to do with that vagina.

[JenJen2011]

Whether JenJen's comment was serious or facetious, she has a point. Penetration is nice and doable no matter what your body situation is.

I was serious. And thanks for mentioning the enemas. That's very important.

[lilacwoman]

actually when you think about it it is logical that penile skin and other external skin grafts used to line a neovagina will take on the appearance and workings of natural vagina lining as of course all babies start out female and its only a dose of hormones that alters the skin to male in the first place, remove the testo and the body will revert to female to some degree which is why natural and young manmade eunuchs are noted for having very soft skins and no body hair.
non-ops who elect for orchies will not get this softness if they went through the testo bath of puberty.

I was looking at nipple enlargement techniques the other day as mine stayed quite small despite the boobs growing out to 40Bs and there is a youtube of a pump being placed on a clitoris and drawing it out to make quite a mini penis so maybe some of the FtMs can enlighten us on how big their clitorii have grown with the testo regime and if sucked out with a pump (sorry for contradiction in terms) the outer skin would harden off to be like penis skin.

[Maya Zimmerman]

I don't have a prostate...

So I always thought, too...

but then...

"In 2002 the Skene's gland was officially renamed the prostate by the Federative International Committee on Anatomical Terminology." - Wikipedia 

It's located in a different spot in XX people and while it reacts in the same way, I don't think it can be stimulated from anal sex.  Linguistically, it seems sexist to decide that the same gland should adopt the "male" name, but at the same time, I think the gland probably comes up most often in medical situations involving XY people.

The flip side here is that XY people have a G-Spot!  Enjoy it!

[Elsa.G]

When you start female hormones, your body stops being 'biologically male'. From there on, your body is producing the exact same cells that a female would produce, and it starts to function as a female body.

This is why your skin changes, the hormones tell your body to develop a 'female skin' instead of a 'male skin'. This is also why you are getting breasts. And this is also how your body knows what to do with that vagina.

Correct but what if you stop taking hormones? would it still send that message or will it just stop.
I understand that if you removes the testicles the main source of testosterone is gone so u lessen the hormones but im pretty sure that u still have to take them. I hate the fact of having to dilate and and take hormones forever. Anyway i understand most of what ur saying but if it functions like a real vagina why does it still close up if it starts the same function as a natural female vagina? That would mean it doesn't really function exactly as one because if your body becomes female it would know not to close it up especially with all those cells and stuff that are there.

[lilacwoman]

some GGs do find their vaginas close up if not used.
plus they get dry and tight and need estrogen creams to soften and open it again.

[Elsa.G]

some GGs do find their vaginas close up if not used.
plus they get dry and tight and need estrogen creams to soften and open it again.

some GGs do find their vaginas close up if not used.
plus they get dry and tight and need estrogen creams to soften and open it again.

r u referring to all women? cuz ive never heard of that happening? i have heard of the dryness though but i dont think natural vaginas close up with no use

[Joandelynn]

I hate the fact of having to dilate and and take hormones forever.

Yes, me too. But I need that surgery, so I'll deal with the consequences.

Anyway i understand most of what ur saying but if it functions like a real vagina why does it still close up if it starts the same function as a natural female vagina?

Because surgery isn't perfect (yet). I really wish it was, but I am glad that we already have the options that we have now.

And you are right, your body does try to close it up if you do nothing, but that's not because it's trying to make a penis from it again. It's because your body sees it as a wound that needs healing. After all, it is invasive surgery, and that will definitely trigger healing processes. Telling the body exactly when to stop healing is still a bit tricky.

[lilacwoman]

there was a surgery show on telly a couple of weeks back and a GG was getting hers opened up as a web of skin had grown across to practically seal it up.  there was mention that it is quite common.
but its one of those things that don't get talked about.

[Joandelynn]

That could very well be true, dilators were not invented for transsexual women.

[Marta]

I remember in Middle School they tought us about the vagina being a whole organ so i think wikipedia is right. And i never heard of a vagina closing up because of non use, if that's true it would have happened to me like in my teens years or something. Anyway thats crazy 0_0

[Elsa.G]

there was a surgery show on telly a couple of weeks back and a GG was getting hers opened up as a web of skin had grown across to practically seal it up.  there was mention that it is quite common.
but its one of those things that don't get talked about.

That's weird, i gotta figure more of that out since a gg vagina is not an open wound i cannot imagine how that happens.

[Elsa.G]

I remember in Middle School they tought us about the vagina being a whole organ so i think wikipedia is right. And i never heard of a vagina closing up because of non use, if that's true it would have happened to me like in my teens years or something. Anyway thats crazy 0_0

During sex ed in my school they seperated the boys and the girls so they can learn more about their own sex than about the other. Im kinda assuming they do that in all schools.

[Marta]

During sex ed in my school they seperated the boys and the girls so they can learn more about their own sex than about the other. Im kinda assuming they do that in all schools.

Yeah actually they did that in my school too, and they do that in my sister's school so it might be true.

[Marta]

I know a vagina can tighten especially during sex but i never heard of it closing up, i hear it can tighten during menstruation too but again ive never heard of it closing. Also i dont think the body would actually do that since there would be no way for menstrual blood to come out.