before I started HRT I dabbled with herbals and had minimal results but I did have some results... after almost a year of wasting my money on herbals I finally made the decision to start HRT for real.... it has now been a couple of years and the results are boggling.... body changes, skin changes, face changes, hair changes, muscle loss and fat redistribution (to make female curves)... and of course, the most welcome was significant breast growth... now a full B cup and still growing hopefully.